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'''POSSIBLE SPOILER''' The three bodies found early on in the film are described by the pathologist as having been shot with a 7.65mm pistol, at which Renko declares "and that's a KGB gun". Eh? I assume this is to distinguish between 7.62 Tokarev and 7.65 Auto, which might be possible by bullet weight of standard FMJ loading, but what gun is meant to be unique to KGB use? (The murders are seen, in flashback, later in the film but the gun isn't shown.) IKD | '''POSSIBLE SPOILER''' The three bodies found early on in the film are described by the pathologist as having been shot with a 7.65mm pistol, at which Renko declares "and that's a KGB gun". Eh? I assume this is to distinguish between 7.62 Tokarev and 7.65 Auto, which might be possible by bullet weight of standard FMJ loading, but what gun is meant to be unique to KGB use? (The murders are seen, in flashback, later in the film but the gun isn't shown.) IKD | ||
:In the Soviet Union (and in present-day Russia as well) cartridge 7.65 mm Auto is a very rare thing. KGB had a fairly standard weapons, and would be unlikely to use 7.65... [[User:Slow Rider|Slow Rider]] 08:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
::In the book, the murder weapon is recovered from a frozen pond and identified by Kirwill as an "Argentine copy of the Mannlicher 7.65" pistol, which holds 8 rounds. I have not been able to identify such a pistol, either on the list of [[Steyr Mannlicher]] firearms, or on any list of Argentinian weapons.--[[User:Crouchbk|Crouchbk]] ([[User talk:Crouchbk|talk]]) 13:08, 9 August 2019 (EDT) | |||
:::"In 1905 the Argentine military adopted the M1901 Mannlicher pistol as their [[Mannlicher Model 1905|M1905]]. This was a charger loaded pistol chambered for the 7.65X21 Mannlicher round that did not have a removable magazine. They were loaded from the top with a charger of cartridges like a Mauser rifle." '''P.S.''' There is also a strange confusion: "When the Model 1900 was originally produced, it was chambered in an 8mm cartridge; however, in 1901, Mannlicher reintroduced it with the 7.63 Manlicher cartridge to make it more powerful. In order to distinguish this round from the 7.63 Mauser round, it was referred to in Germany as the 7.65 round, or the 7.63x21". --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 14:27, 9 August 2019 (EDT) | |||
::::You're right, that is confusing. I appreciate the information.--[[User:Crouchbk|Crouchbk]] ([[User talk:Crouchbk|talk]]) 15:55, 9 August 2019 (EDT) | |||
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What is this bolt action rifle? --Ben41 09:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Jack Osborne (Lee Marvin) is seen using a bolt action rifle with scope at the end of the film.
- Finnish SAKO 75 Hunter, probably chambered in a common caliber like .308 but that's a pure guess since we can't see the other side where the length of the bolt can be seen. MoviePropMaster2008 16:41, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
I think this may be a 1911 rather than a Tokarev, but I'm not 100%. Any thoughts? Jimmoy 10:20, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
It is a Tokarev. In that picture, the fairly tall rearsight is very Tokarev-like; also the rounded rear end of the slide, and absence of the spring plunger tube (above the left grip, pressing on the safety and slide stop) can be seen. It's worth noting that the sound of the gun firing isn't particularly silenced. IKD
7.65mm Pistol
POSSIBLE SPOILER The three bodies found early on in the film are described by the pathologist as having been shot with a 7.65mm pistol, at which Renko declares "and that's a KGB gun". Eh? I assume this is to distinguish between 7.62 Tokarev and 7.65 Auto, which might be possible by bullet weight of standard FMJ loading, but what gun is meant to be unique to KGB use? (The murders are seen, in flashback, later in the film but the gun isn't shown.) IKD
- In the Soviet Union (and in present-day Russia as well) cartridge 7.65 mm Auto is a very rare thing. KGB had a fairly standard weapons, and would be unlikely to use 7.65... Slow Rider 08:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- In the book, the murder weapon is recovered from a frozen pond and identified by Kirwill as an "Argentine copy of the Mannlicher 7.65" pistol, which holds 8 rounds. I have not been able to identify such a pistol, either on the list of Steyr Mannlicher firearms, or on any list of Argentinian weapons.--Crouchbk (talk) 13:08, 9 August 2019 (EDT)
- "In 1905 the Argentine military adopted the M1901 Mannlicher pistol as their M1905. This was a charger loaded pistol chambered for the 7.65X21 Mannlicher round that did not have a removable magazine. They were loaded from the top with a charger of cartridges like a Mauser rifle." P.S. There is also a strange confusion: "When the Model 1900 was originally produced, it was chambered in an 8mm cartridge; however, in 1901, Mannlicher reintroduced it with the 7.63 Manlicher cartridge to make it more powerful. In order to distinguish this round from the 7.63 Mauser round, it was referred to in Germany as the 7.65 round, or the 7.63x21". --Slon95 (talk) 14:27, 9 August 2019 (EDT)