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==Other Browning Hi Power Variants==
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[[Image:Browning HP West German Police.jpg|thumb|none|400px|West German Police Version of the Browning Hi Power - 9mm]]
 
[[Image:BrowningHP-BevHillsCop.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm. This is the screen used Hero Gun held and fired by [[Eddie Murphy]] in the film ''[[Beverly Hills Cop]]''.]]
=Other Browning Hi Power Variants=
==Screen-Used==
[[Image:BrowningHP-BevHillsCop.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm. This is the screen used Hero Gun held and fired by [[Eddie Murphy]] in the ''[[Beverly Hills Cop]]'' film series.]]
[[Image:AG Lucas Firearm 1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FEG Browning HP clone. The gun pictured here is the screen-used gun carried by [[Denzel Washington]] in ''[[American Gangster]]''.]]
[[Image:AG Lucas Firearm 1.jpg|thumb|400px|none|FEG Browning HP clone. The gun pictured here is the screen-used gun carried by [[Denzel Washington]] in ''[[American Gangster]]''.]]
[[Image:McQBrowningHi-Power.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power used by [[John Wayne]] in the film [[McQ]]]]
[[Image:McQBrowningHi-Power.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power used by [[John Wayne]] in the film ''[[McQ]]''.]]
[[Image:SilverchromeHP.JPG|thumb|none|400px|FN Browning Hi-Power silver chrome with adjustable sights - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:IMFDB P00260 Sopranos Paulie FEG R9 9mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|'''World IMFDB Exclusive:''' Screen used FEG R9 - 9x19mm. This blank firing weapon is verified as screen used by actor [[Tony Sirico]] in '''[[The Sopranos]]'''. This specific gun was the one fired onscreen when he and Christopher kill Mikey Palmice in I Dream of Jeannie Cusamano (1.13). (IMFDB thanks [http://www.thegoldencloset.com/ The Golden Closet] for providing this image.)]]
[[Image:L9A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|British L9A1 and licensed FN Hi-Power - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Jamesgeorgopoulostheusualsuspectsimfdb.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Commercial Browning Hi-Power Mark III - 9x19mm. This is the screen-used firearm carried by [[Stephen Baldwin]] in the film ''[[The Usual Suspects]]'']]
[[Image:Hi-Power Left.png|thumb|none|400px|A Type 73 Belgian made Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm.]]
[[Image:ROTLA FN HP.jpg|none|thumb|400px|Browning Hi-Power as carried by [[Harrison Ford]] in ''[[Raiders of the Lost Ark]]''. From "The Complete Making of Indiana Jones: The Definitive Story Behind All Four Films" by J.W. Rinzler, p. 78]]
[[Image:BHC3-BHP-1-HeritageAuction.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Browning Hi-Power (9x19mm) from ''[[Beverly Hills Cop III]]''; the weapon pictured here is the actual screen-used Browning from the film, as it appeared in a [https://entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/eddie-murphy-axel-foley-browning-hi-power-semiautomatic-pistol-from-beverly-hills-cop-iii/a/997049-2598.s 2018 Heritage Auctions listing].]]
[[Image:BHC3-BHP-2-HeritageAuction.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Opposite view of the screen-used Browning Hi-Power (9x19mm) from ''[[Beverly Hills Cop III]]''.]]
[[Image:Serpico-BHP-1-HeritageAuction.jpg|thumb|none|350px|The screen-used Browning Hi Power with target sights from ''[[Serpico]]'' - 9x19mm]]


==Additional Images==
[[File:Hi-Power with rear adjustable sight.jpg|thumb|none|350px|FN Browning Hi-Power with rear adjustable sight, regular front sight and spare magazine - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Browning High Power & suppressor.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power fitted with suppressor - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[File:Browning HP West German Police.jpg|thumb|none|400px|West German Police Version of the Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[File:StainlessHiPower.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN Hi-Power with satin nickel finish - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[File:Hi-Power stainless finish with wood grips.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power with stainless finish - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[File:L9A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|British L9A1 and licensed FN Hi-Power - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[File:Browning L9A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|British L9A1 DS - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[File:Hi-Power Left.png|thumb|none|400px|A Type 73 Belgian made Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[File:BHP Mk III wood grips.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Browning Hi-Power Mark III with wooden grips - 9mm.]]
[[File:BHP-Stock.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Pre-war FN P35 with adjustable sights and holster stock - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[File:BHP Mark I with stock.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Inglis-made Hi-Power Mark I fitted with shoulder stock - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[File:Gold High Power with ivory grip.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Gold High Power with ivory grip - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
===Other Hi-Power-based models===
[[File:FEG45.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FÉG Model 45 ACK/GKK - .45 ACP]]
[[File:Hungarian_FEG_P9R_(RH_Side).jpg|thumb|none|400px|FÉG P9R with adjustible sights - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[File:Hungarian_FEG_P9R_Pistol_(LH_Side).jpg|thumb|none|400px|FÉG P9R - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[Image:Arcus 98.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Arcus 98 DA - 9x19mm Parabellum. Arcus 94 and Arcus 98DA are Bulgarian versions of the Hi-Power.]]
=Discussion=
The [[Inglis Hi-Power]] is a canadian produced variant of this pistol from ww2 and is recognised for its distinctive 'Hump' rear sight.
The [[Inglis Hi-Power]] is a canadian produced variant of this pistol from ww2 and is recognised for its distinctive 'Hump' rear sight.


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[[User:Cutaway]]
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==FEG: R9 same as P9R?==
Can anybody tell if there's a difference between above two guns? I am curious because apart from the trigger guard, the [[Browning Hi-Power#FEG PJK-9HP|FEG R9]] used in [[Sopranos, The|The Sopranos]] looks very much like a ‘regular’ [[Browning Hi-Power#FEG PJK-9HP|FEG P9R]]. Thanks for a short feedback, --[[User:PeeWee055|PeeWee055]] 10:20, 21 November 2011 (CST)
== .357 SIG conversion ==
I read somewhere that most pistols chambered for the .40 S&W can be converted to .357 SIG by replacing the barrel and the recoil spring. Is the Hi-Power Practical capable of such conversion, or is it an exception to the rule? - [[User: 2wingo]]
:As long as it's originally chambered in .40 S&W, you'll be okay. The .40 HP's have a slightly beefier slide and additional locking lug on the barrel. Three instead of two. You'll most likely have to have the .357 SIG barrel fitted. Go to the 1911 forum, there's a BHP section. Or a BHP forum even. I don't know why there's even a separate section for the Practical, the only difference is the finish. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] ([[User talk:Predator20|talk]]) 10:39, 3 December 2012 (EST)
::There are several conversion barrels available, and as long as you pistol has the heavier .40 S&W slide (the one with the groove for the slide release) it will be fine. You can physically put a .40 and by extension .357 SIG barrel on a 9mm gun, but this will damage the pistol in the long term. When Browning first made the .40 Browning it originally used the standard 9mm light slide during testing, but it was too light meaning it recoiled fast enough to warp the frame hence the change.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:13, 3 December 2012 (EST)
== Browning HP better caliber ==
Hey,fellas!I have a question especially for those who are familiary with both Browning HP and newer FN Five seveN: How do you think that the  5.7x28mm ammo would work on a HP? I mean that,the 9x19mm dosen't seems bad but the 5.7x28mm FN cartridge seems so powerfull and accurate compared to the 9mm Luger.--[[User:VLAD M|VLAD M]] ([[User talk:VLAD M|talk]]) 07:48, 24 October 2015 (EDT)
[[Image:SilverchromeHP.JPG|thumb|none|450px|FN Browning Hi-Power silver chrome with adjustable sights - 9x19mm]]
[[Image:Five-seveN_FDE.jpg|thumb|none|450px|FN Five SeveN Flat Dark Earth-5.7x28mm]]
:It wouldn't really work at all. The 5.7x28mm cartridge is more than a centimetre longer than the 9x19mm one so you wouldn't physically be able to fit it inside the grip. There are other options for the Browning though, it was factory made in 9x19mm, .40 S&W and 7.65x21mm. There are also a few caliber conversions available, like .22 LR, .357 SIG and .41 AE. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:12, 24 October 2015 (EDT)
I was actually talking about conversion....Shortly:Which one is better:9x19mm Luger or  5.7x28mm FN?
--[[User:VLAD M|VLAD M]] ([[User talk:VLAD M|talk]]) 12:19, 24 October 2015 (EDT)
:As was just explained, it's physically impossible to convert a Hi-Power to chamber the 5.7mm round. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] ([[User talk:The Wierd It|talk]]) 15:29, 24 October 2015 (EDT)
Excuse my poor eprimasion.What I exactly wanna know is WHICH CALIBER IS BETTER:9mm Luger or 5.7x28mm?😐--[[User:VLAD M|VLAD M]] ([[User talk:VLAD M|talk]]) 16:12, 24 October 2015 (EDT)
::Better for what? As a civilian, 9mm is better due to price, availability, and choice in firearms. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 16:21, 24 October 2015 (EDT)
::Ok.So,for the price:9mm wins.but what'bout accuracy and power--[[User:VLAD M|VLAD M]] ([[User talk:VLAD M|talk]]) 03:22, 25 October 2015 (EDT)
:Yeah you're better off with 9mm, they're cheap and widely proliferated than 5.7. You could get revolvers in .17hmr which is a slightly similar caliber. But go with 9mm, plenty of great options for that.-[[User:The Gunslinger 3|The Gunslinger 3]] ([[User talk:The Gunslinger 3|talk]]) 13:36, 20 March 2016 (EDT)
== Capacity ==
Guys,I know and I see that the first variants of the pistol had a capacity of 13 rounds(9x19mm).But,can't a HP also be fitted with 16 round mags?--[[User:VLAD M|VLAD M]] ([[User talk:VLAD M|talk]]) 12:41, 3 January 2016 (EST)
:No, it cannot, as the grip length allows to place only 13-round magazine (or 10 .40 rounds). An experimental version with double-column 16-round magazine was designed in 1920s, and it was not the Hi-Power that we all know and love, it was its very distant predecessor. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 13:03, 3 January 2016 (EST)
:You mean the M1911?--[[User:VLAD M|VLAD M]] ([[User talk:VLAD M|talk]]) 18:12, 3 January 2016 (EST)
::No, there were a few early prototypes of the Hi power which had a longer grip with a 16 round magazine, like [http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bYg6JZpr-WE/UK5dJM4ECWI/AAAAAAAAB-4/Kj5Aow9hMks/s1600/prototype+Browning+Hi-Power.jpg this one]. You can actually get magazine for the Hi Power now that hold up to 15 rounds in a flush fitting magazine. This is mainly because of improved materials these days where you can have better springs, and the follower is actually totally hollow (yet still strong enough) and telescopes down over the compressed spring. You still can't fit 16 rounds in a standard length flush fitting magazine, I do not think it would phsically fit. There were also the factory extended 20 round magazines (these can be seen used by the British SAS during operation Nimrod), and you can also find after-market extended mags that go up to 32 rounds.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:56, 3 January 2016 (EST)
:Thanks a lot!--[[User:VLAD M|VLAD M]] ([[User talk:VLAD M|talk]]) 12:28, 4 January 2016 (EST)
== No pre-Type 73 images? ==
I notice we don't have any images of T-Series/pre-73 Hi-Powers (external extractor with ring hammer). --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 18:29, 15 July 2016 (EDT)
== Divot on older Hi-Powers ==
Can anyone tell me anything about the divot on the slides of older models, in front of the ejection port? --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 19:07, 15 July 2016 (EDT)
[[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Classic Commercial Browning Hi-Power (Belgian Mfg) - 9x19mm]]
:It's there to facilitate disassembly. When you lock the slide back, the divot lines up with the slide release pin so that you can push  it more easily.--[[User:Flavio|Flavio]] ([[User talk:Flavio|talk]]) 16:32, 16 December 2016 (EST)

Latest revision as of 14:36, 3 December 2023


Other Browning Hi Power Variants

Screen-Used

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Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm. This is the screen used Hero Gun held and fired by Eddie Murphy in the Beverly Hills Cop film series.
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FEG Browning HP clone. The gun pictured here is the screen-used gun carried by Denzel Washington in American Gangster.
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Browning Hi-Power used by John Wayne in the film McQ.
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World IMFDB Exclusive: Screen used FEG R9 - 9x19mm. This blank firing weapon is verified as screen used by actor Tony Sirico in The Sopranos. This specific gun was the one fired onscreen when he and Christopher kill Mikey Palmice in I Dream of Jeannie Cusamano (1.13). (IMFDB thanks The Golden Closet for providing this image.)
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Commercial Browning Hi-Power Mark III - 9x19mm. This is the screen-used firearm carried by Stephen Baldwin in the film The Usual Suspects
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Browning Hi-Power as carried by Harrison Ford in Raiders of the Lost Ark. From "The Complete Making of Indiana Jones: The Definitive Story Behind All Four Films" by J.W. Rinzler, p. 78
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A Browning Hi-Power (9x19mm) from Beverly Hills Cop III; the weapon pictured here is the actual screen-used Browning from the film, as it appeared in a 2018 Heritage Auctions listing.
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Opposite view of the screen-used Browning Hi-Power (9x19mm) from Beverly Hills Cop III.
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The screen-used Browning Hi Power with target sights from Serpico - 9x19mm

Additional Images

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FN Browning Hi-Power with rear adjustable sight, regular front sight and spare magazine - 9x19mm
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Browning Hi-Power fitted with suppressor - 9x19mm Parabellum
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West German Police Version of the Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm Parabellum
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FN Hi-Power with satin nickel finish - 9x19mm Parabellum
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Browning Hi-Power with stainless finish - 9x19mm Parabellum
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British L9A1 and licensed FN Hi-Power - 9x19mm Parabellum
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British L9A1 DS - 9x19mm Parabellum
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A Type 73 Belgian made Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm Parabellum
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Browning Hi-Power Mark III with wooden grips - 9mm.
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Pre-war FN P35 with adjustable sights and holster stock - 9x19mm Parabellum
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Inglis-made Hi-Power Mark I fitted with shoulder stock - 9x19mm Parabellum
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Gold High Power with ivory grip - 9x19mm Parabellum

Other Hi-Power-based models

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FÉG Model 45 ACK/GKK - .45 ACP
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FÉG P9R with adjustible sights - 9x19mm Parabellum
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FÉG P9R - 9x19mm Parabellum
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Arcus 98 DA - 9x19mm Parabellum. Arcus 94 and Arcus 98DA are Bulgarian versions of the Hi-Power.

Discussion

The Inglis Hi-Power is a canadian produced variant of this pistol from ww2 and is recognised for its distinctive 'Hump' rear sight.

Sure it makes sense to add the FEG Hi-Power to the Hi-Power page. Less clutter.

User:Cutaway

FEG: R9 same as P9R?

Can anybody tell if there's a difference between above two guns? I am curious because apart from the trigger guard, the FEG R9 used in The Sopranos looks very much like a ‘regular’ FEG P9R. Thanks for a short feedback, --PeeWee055 10:20, 21 November 2011 (CST)

.357 SIG conversion

I read somewhere that most pistols chambered for the .40 S&W can be converted to .357 SIG by replacing the barrel and the recoil spring. Is the Hi-Power Practical capable of such conversion, or is it an exception to the rule? - User: 2wingo

As long as it's originally chambered in .40 S&W, you'll be okay. The .40 HP's have a slightly beefier slide and additional locking lug on the barrel. Three instead of two. You'll most likely have to have the .357 SIG barrel fitted. Go to the 1911 forum, there's a BHP section. Or a BHP forum even. I don't know why there's even a separate section for the Practical, the only difference is the finish. --Predator20 (talk) 10:39, 3 December 2012 (EST)
There are several conversion barrels available, and as long as you pistol has the heavier .40 S&W slide (the one with the groove for the slide release) it will be fine. You can physically put a .40 and by extension .357 SIG barrel on a 9mm gun, but this will damage the pistol in the long term. When Browning first made the .40 Browning it originally used the standard 9mm light slide during testing, but it was too light meaning it recoiled fast enough to warp the frame hence the change. --commando552 (talk) 19:13, 3 December 2012 (EST)

Browning HP better caliber

Hey,fellas!I have a question especially for those who are familiary with both Browning HP and newer FN Five seveN: How do you think that the 5.7x28mm ammo would work on a HP? I mean that,the 9x19mm dosen't seems bad but the 5.7x28mm FN cartridge seems so powerfull and accurate compared to the 9mm Luger.--VLAD M (talk) 07:48, 24 October 2015 (EDT)


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FN Browning Hi-Power silver chrome with adjustable sights - 9x19mm
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FN Five SeveN Flat Dark Earth-5.7x28mm
It wouldn't really work at all. The 5.7x28mm cartridge is more than a centimetre longer than the 9x19mm one so you wouldn't physically be able to fit it inside the grip. There are other options for the Browning though, it was factory made in 9x19mm, .40 S&W and 7.65x21mm. There are also a few caliber conversions available, like .22 LR, .357 SIG and .41 AE. --commando552 (talk) 08:12, 24 October 2015 (EDT)

I was actually talking about conversion....Shortly:Which one is better:9x19mm Luger or 5.7x28mm FN? --VLAD M (talk) 12:19, 24 October 2015 (EDT)

As was just explained, it's physically impossible to convert a Hi-Power to chamber the 5.7mm round. The Wierd It (talk) 15:29, 24 October 2015 (EDT)

Excuse my poor eprimasion.What I exactly wanna know is WHICH CALIBER IS BETTER:9mm Luger or 5.7x28mm?😐--VLAD M (talk) 16:12, 24 October 2015 (EDT)

Better for what? As a civilian, 9mm is better due to price, availability, and choice in firearms. --Funkychinaman (talk) 16:21, 24 October 2015 (EDT)
Ok.So,for the price:9mm wins.but what'bout accuracy and power--VLAD M (talk) 03:22, 25 October 2015 (EDT)
Yeah you're better off with 9mm, they're cheap and widely proliferated than 5.7. You could get revolvers in .17hmr which is a slightly similar caliber. But go with 9mm, plenty of great options for that.-The Gunslinger 3 (talk) 13:36, 20 March 2016 (EDT)

Capacity

Guys,I know and I see that the first variants of the pistol had a capacity of 13 rounds(9x19mm).But,can't a HP also be fitted with 16 round mags?--VLAD M (talk) 12:41, 3 January 2016 (EST)

No, it cannot, as the grip length allows to place only 13-round magazine (or 10 .40 rounds). An experimental version with double-column 16-round magazine was designed in 1920s, and it was not the Hi-Power that we all know and love, it was its very distant predecessor. Greg-Z (talk) 13:03, 3 January 2016 (EST)
You mean the M1911?--VLAD M (talk) 18:12, 3 January 2016 (EST)
No, there were a few early prototypes of the Hi power which had a longer grip with a 16 round magazine, like this one. You can actually get magazine for the Hi Power now that hold up to 15 rounds in a flush fitting magazine. This is mainly because of improved materials these days where you can have better springs, and the follower is actually totally hollow (yet still strong enough) and telescopes down over the compressed spring. You still can't fit 16 rounds in a standard length flush fitting magazine, I do not think it would phsically fit. There were also the factory extended 20 round magazines (these can be seen used by the British SAS during operation Nimrod), and you can also find after-market extended mags that go up to 32 rounds. --commando552 (talk) 18:56, 3 January 2016 (EST)
Thanks a lot!--VLAD M (talk) 12:28, 4 January 2016 (EST)

No pre-Type 73 images?

I notice we don't have any images of T-Series/pre-73 Hi-Powers (external extractor with ring hammer). --Maxman (talk) 18:29, 15 July 2016 (EDT)

Divot on older Hi-Powers

Can anyone tell me anything about the divot on the slides of older models, in front of the ejection port? --Maxman (talk) 19:07, 15 July 2016 (EDT)

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Classic Commercial Browning Hi-Power (Belgian Mfg) - 9x19mm
It's there to facilitate disassembly. When you lock the slide back, the divot lines up with the slide release pin so that you can push it more easily.--Flavio (talk) 16:32, 16 December 2016 (EST)