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=Additional Images=
==Additional Variants==
==Stoeger 8040F Cougar==
[[File:Stoeger-Beretta 8040F Cougar (Right Side).jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stoeger 8040F Cougar (Right Side) - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[File:Stoeger-Beretta 8040F Cougar (Left Side).jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stoeger 8040F Cougar  (Left Side) - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
[[File:Stoeger-Beretta 8000 Cougar ''Two-Tone''.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Stoeger Cougar 8040 with Two-Tone Finish - 9x19mm Parabellum]]
==Airsoft Versions==
[[File:HFCM800.jpg|thumb|400px|none|HFC M800 Airsoft Replica]]
[[File:Hfc m800 cougar.jpeg|thumb|400px|none|Alt View–HFC M800 Airsoft Replica]]
[[File:Motion matrix labe m800 cougar.jpeg|thumb|400px|none|Matrix Molon Labe M800 Airsoft Replica (w/ orange tip)]]
=Discussion=
Does anyone here have any more photos of the Cougar variants? As unless I am mistaken (which is a very real possibility I will admit) this article is a bit misleading as is. Firstly it refers to "type F" which doesn't exist. There is a F/D/G '''configuration''' (F=double action with safety/decocker, D=double action only, G=SA/DA with decocker only. The standard version of the 9mm is called the 8000, which looks like the Inox one on the main page. There is a 8000L which has a lightened slide (the same as the slide on the gun labelled as "type f") and a shorter frame that accommodates a 13 round magazine. There is also a gun known as 8000L Type P (which I'd assume is where the type thing came from) which uses the lightened slide, but keeps the full size frame of the 8000.
Does anyone here have any more photos of the Cougar variants? As unless I am mistaken (which is a very real possibility I will admit) this article is a bit misleading as is. Firstly it refers to "type F" which doesn't exist. There is a F/D/G '''configuration''' (F=double action with safety/decocker, D=double action only, G=SA/DA with decocker only. The standard version of the 9mm is called the 8000, which looks like the Inox one on the main page. There is a 8000L which has a lightened slide (the same as the slide on the gun labelled as "type f") and a shorter frame that accommodates a 13 round magazine. There is also a gun known as 8000L Type P (which I'd assume is where the type thing came from) which uses the lightened slide, but keeps the full size frame of the 8000.


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:::I'm not suggesting that every variant is listed, was just stating what they were to clarify what pictures were posted and as evidence that this page is wrong and needs to be revamped, and was asking if what I believed was true. As for the pictures thing, I was simply asking if anyone had any photos of Cougars (most specifically the variant that appears in the most stuff, the standard 8000 which at the time I wrote that didn't have a picture) as I was assuming that someone on here is likely to have a Cougar, or have access to one to take a picture of. What with me living in England, Cougars are in pretty short supply. Since then I have found a photo of a 8000 and put it up, but that is just a photo I found online, and am not certain if it truly is a an 8000, as opposed to a 8045. Basically, all I was asking for was someone who knew something about Cougars to weigh in, and either tell me that what I have understand is wrong and to leave it, or that I am right so I can change it (and if they had a picture of a regular blued 8000 that is the only one that seems to appear so much the better). Do you know if this is the case or not? --[[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 20:38, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm not suggesting that every variant is listed, was just stating what they were to clarify what pictures were posted and as evidence that this page is wrong and needs to be revamped, and was asking if what I believed was true. As for the pictures thing, I was simply asking if anyone had any photos of Cougars (most specifically the variant that appears in the most stuff, the standard 8000 which at the time I wrote that didn't have a picture) as I was assuming that someone on here is likely to have a Cougar, or have access to one to take a picture of. What with me living in England, Cougars are in pretty short supply. Since then I have found a photo of a 8000 and put it up, but that is just a photo I found online, and am not certain if it truly is a an 8000, as opposed to a 8045. Basically, all I was asking for was someone who knew something about Cougars to weigh in, and either tell me that what I have understand is wrong and to leave it, or that I am right so I can change it (and if they had a picture of a regular blued 8000 that is the only one that seems to appear so much the better). Do you know if this is the case or not? --[[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 20:38, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Also, just to clarify, at no point was I complaining, I was merely asking. The only reason I even care was that I came to this page to find a photo of a standard Cougar to put on the [[Sanctuary]] page and was surprised that there wasn't one. All I wanted to do is make the page better, as I know that when I came to this page I was confused by the fact that the main picture is not a normal 8000, so briefly though my ID was wrong. --[[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 21:19, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
== Blank Fire ==
Because of the rotating barrel, is the Beretta Cougar harder to convert to blank fire?--[[User:--JazzBlackBelt--|--JazzBlackBelt--]] 09:29, 23 July 2011 (CDT)

Latest revision as of 07:54, 17 July 2023

Additional Images

Additional Variants

Stoeger 8040F Cougar

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Stoeger 8040F Cougar (Right Side) - 9x19mm Parabellum
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Stoeger 8040F Cougar (Left Side) - 9x19mm Parabellum
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Stoeger Cougar 8040 with Two-Tone Finish - 9x19mm Parabellum

Airsoft Versions

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HFC M800 Airsoft Replica
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Alt View–HFC M800 Airsoft Replica
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Matrix Molon Labe M800 Airsoft Replica (w/ orange tip)

Discussion

Does anyone here have any more photos of the Cougar variants? As unless I am mistaken (which is a very real possibility I will admit) this article is a bit misleading as is. Firstly it refers to "type F" which doesn't exist. There is a F/D/G configuration (F=double action with safety/decocker, D=double action only, G=SA/DA with decocker only. The standard version of the 9mm is called the 8000, which looks like the Inox one on the main page. There is a 8000L which has a lightened slide (the same as the slide on the gun labelled as "type f") and a shorter frame that accommodates a 13 round magazine. There is also a gun known as 8000L Type P (which I'd assume is where the type thing came from) which uses the lightened slide, but keeps the full size frame of the 8000.

Therefore, I believe that means the first gun pictured on this page has the rather mouth filling full title of "Beretta Cougar 8000L Type P, F Configuration". From looking around at things that feature the Cougar, I haven't found a single one that actually uses the lightened slide that the Type P uses, and yet that is basically the only photo available to put up. I have added one photo of what I believe is a standard 8000 F configuration, but does anyone have any others, or can confirm that I have got these version right?

Also, I know that the 8000 is 9mm, 8040 is .40, 8045 is .45 and 8357 is .357 SIG, but does anyone know if these calibers are available with the lightened slide option aswell? --Commando552 23:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I love it when people complain that we don't have enough photos of guns. Where do you think they come from? Are you volunteering?  :) Also we don't LIST EVERY variant that exists, only the ones that appear in stuff (for the most part). The only exception is for guns that are photographed from existing movie armories (so the chances that they will or have appeared is much greater than of a model that no movie armory has). MoviePropMaster2008 18:31, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm not suggesting that every variant is listed, was just stating what they were to clarify what pictures were posted and as evidence that this page is wrong and needs to be revamped, and was asking if what I believed was true. As for the pictures thing, I was simply asking if anyone had any photos of Cougars (most specifically the variant that appears in the most stuff, the standard 8000 which at the time I wrote that didn't have a picture) as I was assuming that someone on here is likely to have a Cougar, or have access to one to take a picture of. What with me living in England, Cougars are in pretty short supply. Since then I have found a photo of a 8000 and put it up, but that is just a photo I found online, and am not certain if it truly is a an 8000, as opposed to a 8045. Basically, all I was asking for was someone who knew something about Cougars to weigh in, and either tell me that what I have understand is wrong and to leave it, or that I am right so I can change it (and if they had a picture of a regular blued 8000 that is the only one that seems to appear so much the better). Do you know if this is the case or not? --Commando552 20:38, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Also, just to clarify, at no point was I complaining, I was merely asking. The only reason I even care was that I came to this page to find a photo of a standard Cougar to put on the Sanctuary page and was surprised that there wasn't one. All I wanted to do is make the page better, as I know that when I came to this page I was confused by the fact that the main picture is not a normal 8000, so briefly though my ID was wrong. --Commando552 21:19, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Blank Fire

Because of the rotating barrel, is the Beretta Cougar harder to convert to blank fire?----JazzBlackBelt-- 09:29, 23 July 2011 (CDT)