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'''The following guns were used in the film ''[[Joe Kidd]]'':'''
{{Infobox Movie|{{PAGENAME}}
[[Image:JoeKidd.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Joe Kidd (1972)'']]
|name=Joe Kidd
|picture=JoeKidd.jpg
|caption=''Theatrical Release Poster''
|country=[[Image:USA.jpg|25px]]United States
|director=[[John Sturges]]
|date=1972
|studio=Malpaso Productions
|distributor=Universal Pictures
|character1=Joe Kidd
|actor1=[[Clint Eastwood]]
|character2=Frank Harlan
|actor2=[[Robert Duvall]]
|character3= Luis Chama
|actor3=[[John Saxon]]
|character4=Olin Mingo
|actor4=[[James Wainwright]]
|character5=Lamar Simms
|actor5=[[Don Stroud]]
|character6=Roy Gannon
|actor6=[[Paul Koslo]]
|character7=Naco
|actor7=[[Pepe Callahan]]
}}
 
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=Rifles/Carbines=


==C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser==
==C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser==
Lamarr Simms ([[Don Stroud]]) carries a [[Mauser C96|C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser]] as his weapon of choice in the film, and fits the unique holster/stock combo to the back of the grip to shoulder the pistol like a rifle. Joe Kidd ([[Clint Eastwood]]) later uses it when escaping from the bounty hunters, and shows us that in Hollywood a ten shot pistol can fire about 30 rounds and lock empty several times before actually needing to be reloaded.
Lamarr Simms ([[Don Stroud]]) carries a [[Mauser C96|C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser]] as his weapon of choice in the film, and fits the unique holster/stock combo to the back of the grip to shoulder the pistol like a rifle. Joe Kidd ([[Clint Eastwood]]) later uses it when escaping from the bounty hunters, and shows us that in Hollywood a ten shot pistol can fire about 30 rounds and lock empty several times before actually needing to be reloaded.
[[Image:C96STOCK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser with holster/stock combo - 7.63x25mm.]]
[[Image:C96STOCK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser with holster/stock combo - 7.63x25mm.]]
[[Image:JKC96-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Simms pushes ten rounds into his C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser with a stripper clip.]]
[[Image:JKC96-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Simms ([[Don Stroud]]) pushes ten rounds into his C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser with a stripper clip.]]
[[Image:JKC96-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Simms shuts the window while holding his C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser.]]
[[Image:JKC96-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Simms ([[Don Stroud]]) shuts the window while holding his C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser.]]
[[Image:JKC96-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Simms fires his C96 at Luis' men.]]
[[Image:JKC96-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Simms ([[Don Stroud]]) fires his C96 at Luis' men.]]
[[Image:JKC96-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Simms holds his C96 on the surviving man before killing him.]]
[[Image:JKC96-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Simms ([[Don Stroud]]) holds his C96 on the surviving man before killing him.]]
[[Image:JKC96-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Simms pulls the slide back on his C96 to intimidate Joe but actually reveals the weapon is empty.]]
[[Image:JKC96-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Simms ([[Don Stroud]]) pulls the slide back on his C96 to intimidate Joe but actually reveals the weapon is empty.]]
[[Image:JKC96-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe hides while holding Simms' C96.]]
[[Image:JKC96-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe ([[Clint Eastwood]]) hides while holding Simms' C96.]]
[[Image:JKC96-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe fires the C96 at the bounty hunters.]]
[[Image:JKC96-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe ([[Clint Eastwood]]) fires the C96 at the bounty hunters.]]


==Canadian Ross Model 1910 (custom)==
==Canadian Ross Model 1910 (custom)==
As Joe Kidd ([[Clint Eastwood]]) escapes from the bounty hunters, he grabs a rifle case containing a custom built [[Ross Model 1910]] straight pull bolt action rifle that has been sporterized and modified as a break down rifle, and fitted with a Winchester A5 or Lyman 5A scope. The gun also has a fixed five round magazine instead of the extended ten round version. Joe uses it when battling Olin Mingo ([[James Wainwright]]) in a sniper standoff.
As Joe Kidd ([[Clint Eastwood]]) escapes from the bounty hunters, he grabs a rifle case containing a custom built [[Ross Rifle|Ross Model 1910]] straight pull bolt action rifle that has been sporterized and modified as a break down rifle, and fitted with a Wollensak 4x scope and micrometer mount. The gun also has a fixed five round magazine instead of the extended ten round version. Joe uses it when battling Olin Mingo ([[James Wainwright]]) in a sniper standoff.
[[Image:JKRoss1910-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe opens up the case containing the broken down Ross Model 1910.]]
[[Image:Ross sporter.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ross 1910 factory sporter - .280 Ross]]
[[Image:JKRoss1910-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe assembles the Ross M10.]]
[[Image:JKRoss1910-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe ([[Clint Eastwood]]) opens up the case containing the broken down Ross Model 1910.]]
[[Image:JKRoss1910-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe checks the scope of the Ross M10. Clint appears to be left-eye dominant, and thus fires the rifle "south-paw". There is also the chance he may be ambidextrous. Note the 28" barrel length to maximize the high velocity .280 Ross cartridge.]]
[[Image:JKRoss1910-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe ([[Clint Eastwood]]) assembles the Ross M10.]]
[[Image:JKRoss1910-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe loads a round into the Ross M10. The caliber is assumed to be a .280 Ross (British .280 rimless Nitro Express).]]
[[Image:JKRoss1910-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe ([[Clint Eastwood]]) checks the scope of the Ross M10. Clint appears to be left-eye dominant, and thus fires the rifle "south-paw". There is also the chance he may be ambidextrous. Note the 28" barrel length to maximize the high velocity .280 Ross cartridge.]]
[[Image:JKRoss1910-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe shoulders the Ross M10. Note the P-shaped bolt, indicating it is a Ross, as does the straight pull action seen when he ejects the spent shell.]]
[[Image:JKRoss1910-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe ([[Clint Eastwood]]) loads a round into the Ross M10. The caliber is assumed to be a .280 Ross (British .280 rimless Nitro Express).]]
[[Image:JKRoss1910-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe takes aim at Mingo with the Ross M10. Note the flat 5-round fixed magazine.]]
[[Image:JKRoss1910-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe ([[Clint Eastwood]]) shoulders the Ross M10. Note the P-shaped bolt, indicating it is a Ross, as does the straight pull action seen when he ejects the spent shell.]]
[[Image:JKRoss1910-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe ([[Clint Eastwood]]) takes aim at Mingo with the Ross M10. Note the flat 5-round fixed magazine.]]


==Remington-Keene Frontier==
==Remington-Keene Frontier==
Olin Mingo ([[James Wainwright]]) carries a [[Remington-Keene Rifle|Remington-Keene Deluxe Sporter]] rifle fitted with a scope and with a shortened magazine tube as his sniper rifle in the film, noted by its external hammer mounted on the back of the bolt. Based on the muzzle diameter it appears to be chambered in .45-70. A similar rifle is seen used in ''[[Sons of Katie Elder, The|The Sons of Katie Elder]]'' and ''[[Crossfire Trail]]''.
Olin Mingo ([[James Wainwright]]) carries a [[Remington-Keene Repeating Rifle|Remington-Keene Deluxe Sporter]] rifle fitted with a scope and with a shortened magazine tube as his sniper rifle in the film, noted by its external hammer mounted on the back of the bolt. Based on the muzzle diameter it appears to be chambered in .45-70. A similar rifle is seen used in ''[[Sons of Katie Elder, The|The Sons of Katie Elder]]'' and ''[[Crossfire Trail]]''.
 
[[File:RemingtonNRA.jpg|none|thumb|400px|Actual rifle used by James Wainwright on ''Joe Kidd''. Photo courtesy of the National Rifle Association.]]
[[Image:JKRemingtonKeene-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mingo ([[James Wainwright]]) checks his Remington-Keene rifle while in the hotel room.]]
[[Image:JKRemingtonKeene-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mingo ([[James Wainwright]]) fires his Remington-Keene at Luis' men in the mountains.]]
[[Image:JKRemingtonKeene-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mingo ([[James Wainwright]]) with his Remington-Keene. Note the unusual shortened magazine tube and the Weaver B6 6x scope with Weaver 'N' mount.]]
[[Image:JKRemingtonKeene-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"If you don't blink soon, your eye-balls 'll fall out." Mingo ([[James Wainwright]]) scans the mountains while armed with his Remington-Keene.]]
[[Image:JKRemingtonKeene-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mingo ([[James Wainwright]]) fires his Remington-Keene at Joe Kidd from the mountain tops. His biggest mistake was to stand out in the open and not even lay prone, which makes him an easy target, even at the range he was shooting from.]]
 
==Savage 99==
Frank Harlan ([[Robert Duvall]]) uses a [[Savage 99]] with custom engraving as his rifle in the film. In some scenes, Roy Gannon ([[Paul Koslo]]) is seen holding it.
[[Image:Scoped99.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Savage 99 with scope]]
[[Image:JKSavage99-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harlan ([[Robert Duvall]]) with his [[Savage 99]] in the hotel room.]]
[[Image:JKSavage99-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gannon ([[Paul Koslo]]) holding Harlan's [[Savage 99]].]]
[[Image:JKSavage99-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harlan ([[Robert Duvall]]) with his [[Savage 99]] in the courthouse.]]
 
==Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine==
Just about all of Luis Chama's ([[John Saxon]]) men carry [[Winchester Model 1892|Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine]]s, as do the bounty hunters in some scenes.
[[Image:WinchesterModel1892.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine - .44-40.]]
[[Image:JKWin92-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Luis and his men load up on weapons, including Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbines, before breaking into the jailhouse.]]
[[Image:JKWin92-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Deputy Calvin ([[Clint Ritchie]]) with a Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine.]]
[[Image:JKWin92-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Roy Gannon ([[Paul Koslo]]) on watch with a Winchester 1892.]]
[[Image:JKWin92-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Frank Harlan ([[Robert Duvall]]) with a Winchester 1892.]]
[[Image:JKWin92-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gannon ([[Paul Koslo]]) with a Winchester 1892.]]
[[Image:JKWin92-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Chama's men kills a bounty hunter with his Winchester 1892.]]
[[Image:JKWin92-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chama ([[John Saxon]]) fires a Winchester 1892 from the saloon in the town.]]


[[Image:RK.jpg|thumb|450px|none| Remington Keene carbine in 45-70 goverment. This rifle is similar to the one used in this movie.]]
=Revolvers=
[[Image:JKRemingtonKeene-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mingo checks his Remington-Keene rifle while in the hotel room.]]
[[Image:JKRemingtonKeene-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mingo fires his Remington-Keene at Luis' men in the mountains.]]
[[Image:JKRemingtonKeene-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mingo with his Remington-Keene. Note the unusual shortened magazine tube and the Weaver B6 6x scope with Weaver 'N' mount.]]
[[Image:JKRemingtonKeene-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"If you don't blink soon, your eye-balls'll fall out." Mingo scans the mountains while armed with his Remington-Keene.]]
[[Image:JKRemingtonKeene-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mingo fires his Remington-Keene at Joe Kidd from the mountain tops. His biggest mistake was to stand out in the open and not even lay prone, which makes him an easy target, even at the range he was shooting from.]]


==Single Action Army==
==Single Action Army==
As with most westerns, many characters carry [[Single Action Army]] revolvers in the film, including Joe Kidd ([[Clint Eastwood]]), who carries a 7 1/2" Cavalary model. Some characters carry Single Action Armies but never draw them, such as Frank Harlan ([[Robert Duvall]]), who has one with ivory grips.
As with most westerns, many characters carry [[Single Action Army]] revolvers in the film, including Joe Kidd ([[Clint Eastwood]]), who carries a 7 1/2" Cavalry model. Some characters carry Single Action Armies but never draw them, such as Frank Harlan ([[Robert Duvall]]), who has one with ivory grips.
[[Image:ColtSAALongBarrel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army 7 1/2" Cavalary.]]
[[Image:ColtSAALongBarrel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army 7 1/2" Cavalry.]]
[[Image:JKSAA-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Naco ([[Pepe Callahan]]) holds his Single Action Army on Joe in the bar.]]
[[Image:JKSAA-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Naco ([[Pepe Callahan]]) holds his Single Action Army on Joe in the bar.]]
[[Image:JKSAA-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Roy Gannon ([[Paul Koslo]]) takes cover from Luis' men's fire with his Single Action Army drawn.]]
[[Image:JKSAA-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Roy Gannon ([[Paul Koslo]]) takes cover from Luis' men's fire with his Single Action Army drawn.]]
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[[Image:JKSAA-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe holds his SAA on Luis Chama ([[John Saxon]]).]]
[[Image:JKSAA-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe holds his SAA on Luis Chama ([[John Saxon]]).]]
[[Image:JKSAA-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Roy Gannon ([[Paul Koslo]]) catches Kidd's bullet while trying to fire his SAA.]]
[[Image:JKSAA-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Roy Gannon ([[Paul Koslo]]) catches Kidd's bullet while trying to fire his SAA.]]
[[Image:JKSAA-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sheriff Bob Mitchell ([[Gregory Walcott]]) with a nickel plated SAA "Quickdraw" with the front sights shaved down and fitted with pearl grips. This is a professional quickdraw pistol, although his character doesn't fit this role.]]
[[Image:JKSAA-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sheriff Bob Mitchell ([[Gregory Walcott]]) with a nickel plated SAA "Quickdraw" with the front sights shaved down and fitted with pearl grips. This is a professional quickdraw pistol, although his character doesn't fit this role.]]
[[Image:JKSAA-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Get outta here..."]]
[[Image:JKSAA-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Get outta here..."]]
==Colt Bisley Single Action Army==


At the beginning of the film when Luis Chama ([[John Saxon]]) breaks his friends out of jail, Deputy Sheriff Calvin ([[Clint Ritchie]]) is seen using a [[Single Action Army|Colt Bisley]] Single Action Army noted by its distinct grip shape, and fitted with pearl grips.
At the beginning of the film when Luis Chama ([[John Saxon]]) breaks his friends out of jail, Deputy Sheriff Calvin ([[Clint Ritchie]]) is seen using a [[Single Action Army|Colt Bisley]] Single Action Army noted by its distinct grip shape, and fitted with pearl grips.
[[Image:ColtSAABisley.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Bisley Single Action Army - .45 Long Colt.]]
[[Image:ColtSAABisley.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Bisley Single Action Army - .45 Long Colt.]]
[[Image:JKBisleySAA-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Seen in Calvin's holster is a Colt Bisley SAA.]]
[[Image:JKBisleySAA-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Seen in Calvin's holster is a Colt Bisley SAA.]]
==Savage 99==
Frank Harlan ([[Robert Duvall]]) uses a [[Savage 99]] with custom engraving as his rifle in the film. In some scenes, Roy Gannon ([[Paul Koslo]]) is seen holding it.
[[Image:Sav020 lg.gif|thumb|none|400px|Savage 99 - .308 Winchester.]]
[[Image:JKSavage99-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harlan with his Savage 99 in the hotel room.]]
[[Image:JKSavage99-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gannon ([[Paul Koslo]]) holding Harlan's Savage 99.]]
[[Image:JKSavage99-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Harlan with his Savage 99 in the courthouse.]]


==Smith & Wesson New Model No 3==
==Smith & Wesson New Model No 3==
Luis Chama ([[John Saxon]]) uses a [[Smith & Wesson Schofield|Smith & Wesson New Model No 3]] when breaking his friends out of jail at the film's start.
Luis Chama ([[John Saxon]]) uses a [[Smith & Wesson New Model No.3|Smith & Wesson New Model No. 3]] when breaking his friends out of jail at the film's start.
[[Image:S&wno3nm.jpg|thumb|none|400px| Smith & Wesson New Model No.3]]
[[Image:S&wno3nm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson New Model No.3]]
[[Image:JKS&WSchofield-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Luis with his Smith & Wesson in the courthouse.]]
[[Image:JKS&WSchofield-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Luis with his Smith & Wesson in the courthouse.]]
[[Image:JKS&WSchofield-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Luis with his Smith & Wesson in the jailhouse.]]
[[Image:JKS&WSchofield-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Luis with his Smith & Wesson in the jailhouse.]]
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[[Image:JKWebleyBulldog-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Helen is seen taking a Webley Bulldog from the weapons stash for herself.]]
[[Image:JKWebleyBulldog-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Helen is seen taking a Webley Bulldog from the weapons stash for herself.]]
[[Image:JKWebleyBulldog-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Helen holds her Webley Bulldog on Sheriff Bob Mitchell ([[Gregory Walcott]]) in the courthouse.]]
[[Image:JKWebleyBulldog-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Helen holds her Webley Bulldog on Sheriff Bob Mitchell ([[Gregory Walcott]]) in the courthouse.]]
[[Image:JKWebleyBulldog-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Possibley the same Webley Bulldog is seen in Harlan's shoulder holster.]]
[[Image:JKWebleyBulldog-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Possibly the same Webley Bulldog is seen in Harlan's shoulder holster.]]
[[Image:JKWebleyBulldog-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Helen takes her Webley Bulldog before escaping with Joe.]]
[[Image:JKWebleyBulldog-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Helen takes her Webley Bulldog before escaping with Joe.]]
==Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine==
Just about all of Luis Chama's ([[John Saxon]]) men carry [[Winchester Model 1892|Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine]]s, as do the bounty hunters in some scenes.
[[Image:WinchesterModel1892.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine - .44-40.]]
[[Image:JKWin92-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Luis and his men load up on weapons, including Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbines, before breaking into the jailhouse.]]
[[Image:JKWin92-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Deputy Calvin ([[Clint Ritchie]]) with a Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine.]]
[[Image:JKWin92-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Roy Gannon ([[Paul Koslo]]) on watch with a Winchester 1892.]]
[[Image:JKWin92-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Frank Harlan ([[Robert Duvall]]) with a Winchester 1892.]]
[[Image:JKWin92-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gannon ([[Paul Koslo]]) with a Winchester 1892.]]
[[Image:JKWin92-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Chama's men kills a bounty hunter with his Winchester 1892.]]
[[Image:JKWin92-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chama fires a Winchester 1892 from the saloon in the town.]]


==Colt 1878 DA Frontier==
==Colt 1878 DA Frontier==
One of Luis Chama's ([[John Saxon]]) men is seen armed with a [[Colt 1878 DA Frontier]] in the courthouse.
One of Luis Chama's ([[John Saxon]]) men is seen armed with a [[Colt 1878 Double Action|Colt 1878 Double Action Frontier]] in the courthouse.
[[Image:1878 colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1878 Frontier Double Action - .45 Colt]]
[[Image:1878 colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1878 Frontier Double Action - .45 Colt]]
[[Image:JKColtLighting-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Luis' men with a Colt 1878 DA Frontier  Revolver.]]
[[Image:JKColtLighting-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Luis' men with a Colt 1878 DA Frontier  Revolver.]]
==Webley No.5 Express==
One of Chama's ([[John Saxon]]) men uses a [[Webley No.5]] Express revolver in the courthouse.
[[Image:11661-01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Webley No.5 Express - .450 Adams]]
[[Image:JKUnknown-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first man with a Webley No.5]]
[[Image:JKUnknown-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Chama's men with a Webley No.5]]
[[Image:JKUnknown-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The man with the Webley No.5]]
=Shotguns=


==10 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun==
==10 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun==
Harry The Bartender ([[Ed Deemer]]) keeps a 10 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun under the bar counter, which Joe Kidd ([[Clint Eastwood]]) uses to kill one of Luis Chama's ([[John Saxon]]) men when he tries to kill him. Joe later hands the shotgun to Harry at the end of the film and tells him to cover him from the bar.
Harry The Bartender ([[Ed Deemer]]) keeps a [[10 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] under the bar counter, which Joe Kidd ([[Clint Eastwood]]) uses to kill one of Luis Chama's ([[John Saxon]]) men when he tries to kill him. Joe later hands the shotgun to Harry at the end of the film and tells him to cover him from the bar.
[[Image:meteor.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Belgian made 10 gauge Meteor used by [[Val Kilmer]] in the film Tombstone. From the personal collection of the film's armorer Peter Sherayko.]]
[[Image:meteor.jpg|thumb|450px|none|Belgian made 10 gauge Meteor used by [[Val Kilmer]] in the film ''[[Tombstone]]''. From the personal collection of the film's armorer Peter Sherayko.]]
[[Image:JK10Gauge-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe (dressed like a "city dude", as they'd say back then) checks a 10 Gauge shotgun while waiting behind the bar stool.]]
[[Image:JK10Gauge-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe (dressed like a "city dude", as they'd say back then) checks a 10 Gauge shotgun while waiting behind the bar stool.]]
[[Image:JK10Gauge-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe shoots one of Chama's men as he runs through the bar doors. Firing a 10 Gauge with one hand must be brutal.]]
[[Image:JK10Gauge-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe shoots one of Chama's men as he runs through the bar doors. Firing a 10 Gauge with one hand must be brutal, but not for Clint, he takes it like a champ!]]
[[Image:JK10Gauge-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe watches Chama leave town with the shotgun and a beer mug in hand.]]
[[Image:JK10Gauge-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Joe watches Chama leave town with the shotgun and a beer mug in hand.]]
[[Image:JK10Gauge-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chama fires the 10 Gauge shotgun before giving it to the bartender and taking a Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring carbine.]]
[[Image:JK10Gauge-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Chama fires the 10 Gauge shotgun before giving it to the bartender and taking a Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring carbine.]]
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==Winchester 1897==
==Winchester 1897==
One of Chama's ([[John Saxon]]) men fires a [[Winchester Model 1897|Winchester 1897]] shotgun from the rooftops, which injures Frank Harlan's ([[Robert Duvall]]) hand.
One of Chama's ([[John Saxon]]) men fires a [[Winchester Model 1897|Winchester 1897]] shotgun from the rooftops, which injures Frank Harlan's ([[Robert Duvall]]) hand.
[[Image:Winchester Model 1897.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester 1897 - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:WinchesterM1897.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1897 - 12 Gauge.]]
[[Image:JKWin97-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Chama's men fires a Winchester 1897.]]
[[Image:JKWin97-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Chama's men fires a Winchester 1897.]]


==Webley No.5 Express==
=Miscellaneous=
One of Chama's ([[John Saxon]]) men uses a Webley No.5 Express revolver in the courthouse.
[[Image:11661-01.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Webley No.5 Express - .450 Adams]]
[[Image:JKUnknown-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first man with a Webley No.5]]
[[Image:JKUnknown-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Chama's men with a Webley No.5]]
[[Image:JKUnknown-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The man with the Webley No.5]]


==Table of Broken Guns==
==Table of Broken Guns==
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Joe Kidd
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Theatrical Release Poster
Country Error creating thumbnail: File missingUnited States
Directed by John Sturges
Release Date 1972
Studio Malpaso Productions
Distributor Universal Pictures
Main Cast
Character Actor
Joe Kidd Clint Eastwood
Frank Harlan Robert Duvall
Luis Chama John Saxon
Olin Mingo James Wainwright
Lamar Simms Don Stroud
Roy Gannon Paul Koslo
Naco Pepe Callahan



The following weapons were used in the film Joe Kidd:


Rifles/Carbines

C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser

Lamarr Simms (Don Stroud) carries a C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser as his weapon of choice in the film, and fits the unique holster/stock combo to the back of the grip to shoulder the pistol like a rifle. Joe Kidd (Clint Eastwood) later uses it when escaping from the bounty hunters, and shows us that in Hollywood a ten shot pistol can fire about 30 rounds and lock empty several times before actually needing to be reloaded.

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C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser with holster/stock combo - 7.63x25mm.
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Simms (Don Stroud) pushes ten rounds into his C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser with a stripper clip.
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Simms (Don Stroud) shuts the window while holding his C96 "Broomhandle" Mauser.
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Simms (Don Stroud) fires his C96 at Luis' men.
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Simms (Don Stroud) holds his C96 on the surviving man before killing him.
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Simms (Don Stroud) pulls the slide back on his C96 to intimidate Joe but actually reveals the weapon is empty.
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Joe (Clint Eastwood) hides while holding Simms' C96.
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Joe (Clint Eastwood) fires the C96 at the bounty hunters.

Canadian Ross Model 1910 (custom)

As Joe Kidd (Clint Eastwood) escapes from the bounty hunters, he grabs a rifle case containing a custom built Ross Model 1910 straight pull bolt action rifle that has been sporterized and modified as a break down rifle, and fitted with a Wollensak 4x scope and micrometer mount. The gun also has a fixed five round magazine instead of the extended ten round version. Joe uses it when battling Olin Mingo (James Wainwright) in a sniper standoff.

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Ross 1910 factory sporter - .280 Ross
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Joe (Clint Eastwood) opens up the case containing the broken down Ross Model 1910.
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Joe (Clint Eastwood) assembles the Ross M10.
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Joe (Clint Eastwood) checks the scope of the Ross M10. Clint appears to be left-eye dominant, and thus fires the rifle "south-paw". There is also the chance he may be ambidextrous. Note the 28" barrel length to maximize the high velocity .280 Ross cartridge.
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Joe (Clint Eastwood) loads a round into the Ross M10. The caliber is assumed to be a .280 Ross (British .280 rimless Nitro Express).
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Joe (Clint Eastwood) shoulders the Ross M10. Note the P-shaped bolt, indicating it is a Ross, as does the straight pull action seen when he ejects the spent shell.
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Joe (Clint Eastwood) takes aim at Mingo with the Ross M10. Note the flat 5-round fixed magazine.

Remington-Keene Frontier

Olin Mingo (James Wainwright) carries a Remington-Keene Deluxe Sporter rifle fitted with a scope and with a shortened magazine tube as his sniper rifle in the film, noted by its external hammer mounted on the back of the bolt. Based on the muzzle diameter it appears to be chambered in .45-70. A similar rifle is seen used in The Sons of Katie Elder and Crossfire Trail.

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Actual rifle used by James Wainwright on Joe Kidd. Photo courtesy of the National Rifle Association.
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Mingo (James Wainwright) checks his Remington-Keene rifle while in the hotel room.
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Mingo (James Wainwright) fires his Remington-Keene at Luis' men in the mountains.
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Mingo (James Wainwright) with his Remington-Keene. Note the unusual shortened magazine tube and the Weaver B6 6x scope with Weaver 'N' mount.
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"If you don't blink soon, your eye-balls 'll fall out." Mingo (James Wainwright) scans the mountains while armed with his Remington-Keene.
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Mingo (James Wainwright) fires his Remington-Keene at Joe Kidd from the mountain tops. His biggest mistake was to stand out in the open and not even lay prone, which makes him an easy target, even at the range he was shooting from.

Savage 99

Frank Harlan (Robert Duvall) uses a Savage 99 with custom engraving as his rifle in the film. In some scenes, Roy Gannon (Paul Koslo) is seen holding it.

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Savage 99 with scope
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Harlan (Robert Duvall) with his Savage 99 in the hotel room.
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Gannon (Paul Koslo) holding Harlan's Savage 99.
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Harlan (Robert Duvall) with his Savage 99 in the courthouse.

Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine

Just about all of Luis Chama's (John Saxon) men carry Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbines, as do the bounty hunters in some scenes.

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Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine - .44-40.
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Luis and his men load up on weapons, including Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbines, before breaking into the jailhouse.
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Deputy Calvin (Clint Ritchie) with a Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine.
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Roy Gannon (Paul Koslo) on watch with a Winchester 1892.
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Frank Harlan (Robert Duvall) with a Winchester 1892.
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Gannon (Paul Koslo) with a Winchester 1892.
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One of Chama's men kills a bounty hunter with his Winchester 1892.
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Chama (John Saxon) fires a Winchester 1892 from the saloon in the town.

Revolvers

Single Action Army

As with most westerns, many characters carry Single Action Army revolvers in the film, including Joe Kidd (Clint Eastwood), who carries a 7 1/2" Cavalry model. Some characters carry Single Action Armies but never draw them, such as Frank Harlan (Robert Duvall), who has one with ivory grips.

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Colt Single Action Army 7 1/2" Cavalry.
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Naco (Pepe Callahan) holds his Single Action Army on Joe in the bar.
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Roy Gannon (Paul Koslo) takes cover from Luis' men's fire with his Single Action Army drawn.
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Gannon (Paul Koslo) holds his SAA on Joe.
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Olin Mingo (James Wainwright) holds Joe's SAA.
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A man in the town gives Joe back his SAA, although this isn't the safest way to do it.
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Joe holds his SAA on Luis Chama (John Saxon).
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Roy Gannon (Paul Koslo) catches Kidd's bullet while trying to fire his SAA.
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Sheriff Bob Mitchell (Gregory Walcott) with a nickel plated SAA "Quickdraw" with the front sights shaved down and fitted with pearl grips. This is a professional quickdraw pistol, although his character doesn't fit this role.
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"Get outta here..."

Colt Bisley Single Action Army

At the beginning of the film when Luis Chama (John Saxon) breaks his friends out of jail, Deputy Sheriff Calvin (Clint Ritchie) is seen using a Colt Bisley Single Action Army noted by its distinct grip shape, and fitted with pearl grips.

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Colt Bisley Single Action Army - .45 Long Colt.
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Seen in Calvin's holster is a Colt Bisley SAA.

Smith & Wesson New Model No 3

Luis Chama (John Saxon) uses a Smith & Wesson New Model No. 3 when breaking his friends out of jail at the film's start.

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Smith & Wesson New Model No.3
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Luis with his Smith & Wesson in the courthouse.
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Luis with his Smith & Wesson in the jailhouse.

Webley Bulldog

A Webley Bulldog with ivory grips is carried by Helen Sanchez (Stella Garcia) in the film. Possibly the same prop is also carried by Frank Harlan (Robert Duvall) in a shoulder holster.

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Webley Bulldog - .32 caliber.
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Helen is seen taking a Webley Bulldog from the weapons stash for herself.
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Helen holds her Webley Bulldog on Sheriff Bob Mitchell (Gregory Walcott) in the courthouse.
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Possibly the same Webley Bulldog is seen in Harlan's shoulder holster.
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Helen takes her Webley Bulldog before escaping with Joe.

Colt 1878 DA Frontier

One of Luis Chama's (John Saxon) men is seen armed with a Colt 1878 Double Action Frontier in the courthouse.

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Colt 1878 Frontier Double Action - .45 Colt
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One of Luis' men with a Colt 1878 DA Frontier Revolver.

Webley No.5 Express

One of Chama's (John Saxon) men uses a Webley No.5 Express revolver in the courthouse.

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Webley No.5 Express - .450 Adams
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The first man with a Webley No.5
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One of Chama's men with a Webley No.5
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The man with the Webley No.5

Shotguns

10 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun

Harry The Bartender (Ed Deemer) keeps a 10 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun under the bar counter, which Joe Kidd (Clint Eastwood) uses to kill one of Luis Chama's (John Saxon) men when he tries to kill him. Joe later hands the shotgun to Harry at the end of the film and tells him to cover him from the bar.

Belgian made 10 gauge Meteor used by Val Kilmer in the film Tombstone. From the personal collection of the film's armorer Peter Sherayko.
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Joe (dressed like a "city dude", as they'd say back then) checks a 10 Gauge shotgun while waiting behind the bar stool.
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Joe shoots one of Chama's men as he runs through the bar doors. Firing a 10 Gauge with one hand must be brutal, but not for Clint, he takes it like a champ!
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Joe watches Chama leave town with the shotgun and a beer mug in hand.
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Chama fires the 10 Gauge shotgun before giving it to the bartender and taking a Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring carbine.

12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun

Deputy Calvin (Clint Ritchie) is seen using a 12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun during the shootout in the town.

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J. Stevens and Company 1878 - 12 gauge.
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Deputy Calvin armed with a 12 Gauge shotgun while Eljay (Chuck Hayward) is using a 10 Gauge.

Winchester 1897

One of Chama's (John Saxon) men fires a Winchester 1897 shotgun from the rooftops, which injures Frank Harlan's (Robert Duvall) hand.

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Winchester 1897 - 12 Gauge.
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One of Chama's men fires a Winchester 1897.

Miscellaneous

Table of Broken Guns

When the bounty hunters turn on Joe Kidd (Clint Eastwood), they disarm him but offer him to use one of the crappy guns seen on a table piled up. Most of them are not fireable and appear very old and rusted. They are likely actual guns of the period.

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Among the weapons seen are a French Chassepot 1866 bolt action rifle, a Trapdoor Springfield 1873, a Remington Rolling Block, a US M1842 musket, a Smith & Wesson revolver of unknown model, and a Double Barreled Shotgun of unknown make. The rest are too obscured to identify.