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Young Guns (1988)

Young Guns is a 1988 semi-historical Western that purports to tell the real story of Billy the Kid. The film stars Emilio Estevez as William H. Bonney, aka "Billy the Kid", who was taken in under the wing of the rancher, John Tunstall (Terence Stamp), along with other 'wayward' young men. During the Lincoln County Wars of 1878, several groups warred over diminishing land for their cattle herds. When Tunstall is killed after being ambushed, Billy the Kid organizes a group who called themselves 'the Regulators' to avenge the death of their benefactor. Despite being officially 'deputized' at the time, Billy does not arrest the suspected killers (men allied with Rancher Laurence Murphy), Billy just killed them, resulting in him and his 'gang' becoming the hunted fugitives. This film and its sequel did a very interesting job of hypothesizing what happened in the short life of Billy the Kid and offered its own explanations of why real historical characters did what they did (and how they did it). The film's cast includes Kiefer Sutherland, Lou Diamond Phillips, Dermot Mulroney, Casey Siemaszko, and Charlie Sheen. Most of the cast returned for the 1990 sequel Young Guns II.

The following weapons were used in the film Young Guns:

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Revolvers

Colt 1877 Double Action

William H. "Billy the Kid" Bonney (Emilio Estevez) starts carrying a Colt 1877 DA Lightning/Thunderer revolver with a 6" barrel towards the start of the film, and uses it along with a Single Action Army in some scenes. Billy takes Sheriff Brady's 4½" Lightning and thus wields two Colt Lightning revolvers by the end of the film. The real Billy the Kid carried a Colt 1877 DA Thunderer revolver in .41 Long Colt, but since this is an uncommon blank round, the similar Colt 1877 DA Lightning in .38 Long Colt was used for simplicity.

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-[[Image:YoungGunsCover.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Young Guns (1988)'']]
+[[Image:YoungGunsCover.jpg|thumb|right|301px|''Young Guns (1988)'']]
-[[Young Guns]] is a semi-historical 1988 Western starring [[Emilio Estevez]] as William H. Bonney aka "Billy the Kid", who was taken in under the wing of the rancher, John Tunstall ([[Terence Stamp]]), along with other 'wayward' young men.  During the Lincoln County Wars of 1878, several groups warred over diminishing land for their cattle herds.  When Tunstall is killed after being ambushed, Billy the Kid organizes a group who called themselves 'the Regulators' to avenge the death of their benefactor. Despite being officially 'deputized' at the time, Billy does not arrest the suspected killers (men allied with Rancher Laurence Murphy), Billy just killed them, resulting in him and his 'gang' becoming the hunted fugitives.  This film and its sequel did a very interesting job of hypothesizing what happened in the short life of Billy the Kid and offered its own explanations of why real historical characters did what they did (and how they did it).
+'''''Young Guns''''' is a 1988 semi-historical Western that purports to tell the real story of Billy the Kid.  The film stars [[Emilio Estevez]] as William H. Bonney, aka "Billy the Kid", who was taken in under the wing of the rancher, John Tunstall ([[Terence Stamp]]), along with other 'wayward' young men.  During the Lincoln County Wars of 1878, several groups warred over diminishing land for their cattle herds.  When Tunstall is killed after being ambushed, Billy the Kid organizes a group who called themselves 'the Regulators' to avenge the death of their benefactor. Despite being officially 'deputized' at the time, Billy does not arrest the suspected killers (men allied with Rancher Laurence Murphy), Billy just killed them, resulting in him and his 'gang' becoming the hunted fugitives.  This film and its sequel did a very interesting job of hypothesizing what happened in the short life of Billy the Kid and offered its own explanations of why real historical characters did what they did (and how they did it).  The film's cast includes [[Kiefer Sutherland]], [[Lou Diamond Phillips]], [[Dermot Mulroney]], [[Casey Siemaszko]], and [[Charlie Sheen]].  Most of the cast returned for the 1990 sequel ''[[Young Guns II]]''.
-'''The following guns were used in the film ''[[Young Guns]]'':'''
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-==Colt Lightning 1877==
+=Revolvers=
-William H. "Billy the Kid" Bonney ([[Emilio Estevez]]) starts carrying a [[Colt Lightning|Colt Lightning 1877]] revolver with a 7 1/2" barrel towards the start of the film, and uses it along with a [[Single Action Army]] in some scenes. After killing Sheriff Brady ([[Danny Kamin]]), Billy takes his 5 1/2" Lightning and thus wields two Colt Lightning revolvers by the end of the film. The real Billy the Kid carried a [[Colt Thunderer 1877]] revolver in .41 Long Colt, but this is an uncommon blank round so Uberti replicas of Lightnings in .38 Special were used for simplicity.
+==Colt 1877 Double Action ==
-[[Image:ColtLightning.jpg|thumb|none|400px| 1877 Colt Lightning in .38 Long Colt with 5.5" bbl.]]
+William H. "Billy the Kid" Bonney ([[Emilio Estevez]]) starts carrying a [[Colt Lightning|Colt 1877 DA Lightning/Thunderer]] revolver with a 6" barrel towards the start of the film, and uses it along with a [[Single Action Army]] in some scenes. Billy takes Sheriff Brady's 4½" Lightning and thus wields two Colt Lightning revolvers by the end of the film. The real Billy the Kid carried a [[Colt Lightning|Colt 1877 DA Thunderer]] revolver in .41 Long Colt, but since this is an uncommon blank round, the similar Colt 1877 DA Lightning in .38 Long Colt was used for simplicity.
+[[Image:ColtLightning.jpg|thumb|none|400px| 1877 Colt Lightning in .38 Long Colt with 6" bbl.]]
 [[Image:YGColtLightning-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy the Kid with his Colt Lightning drawn.]]
-[[Image:YGColtLightning-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy holds his Colt Lightning on McCloskey ([[Geoffrey Blake]]) when he suspects him of being a traitor.]]
+[[Image:YGColtLightning-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy pulls his Colt Lightning on McCloskey (Geoffrey Blake) when he suspects him of being a traitor.]]
-[[Image:YGColtLightning-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy kills Sheriff Brady with his own Colt Lightning.]]
+[[Image:YGColtLightning-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Reap the whirlwind, Sheriff." Billy holds Sheriff Brady's own Colt Lightning.]]
 [[Image:YGColtLightning-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A side shot of the Colt Lightning.]]
 [[Image:YGColtLightning-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy jumps up and shoots one of the men outside the house between the eyes.]]
 [[Image:YGColtLightning-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A side shot of Billy's Lightning.]]
-[[Image:YGColtLightning-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After hiding in a trunk thrown out the front window, Billy break open and fires his Lightnings, all while the scene plays in super cool '80s slo-mo.]]
+[[Image:YGColtLightning-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After hiding in a trunk thrown out the front window, Billy break open and fires his Lightnings.]]
 [[Image:YGColtLightning-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy comes back to finish things.]]
 [[Image:YGColtLightning-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy puts a bullet between the bad guy's eyes.]]
-==Single Action Army==
+==Single Action Army Quickdraw==
-All of the Regulators carry at least one [[Single Action Army]] as their sidearm. Billy the Kid ([[Emilio Estevez]]) is also seen using one for the start of the film.
+All of the Regulators carry at least one [[Single Action Army]] Quickdraw as a sidearm. Billy the Kid ([[Emilio Estevez]]) is also seen using one for the start of the film.
-[[Image:ColtSAALongBarrel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army 7 1/2" Cavalry - .45 Long Colt.]]
+[[Image:ColtSAA475barrel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army 4¾" Quick Draw - .45 Long Colt.]]
-[[Image:ColtSAA475barrel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army 4 3/4" Quick Draw - .45 Long Colt.]]
+[[Image:YGSAA-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Billy holds a Quick Draw SAA at John Tunstall ([[Terence Stamp]]) when he offers him to join the Regulators.]]
+[[Image:YGSAA-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Billy prepares to shoot a pig that knocked him over with his SAA but is stopped when "Jose" Chavez y Chavez ([[Lou Diamond Phillips]]) throws several knives at him.]]
+[[Image:YGSAA-4.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Billy spends pretty much the entire beginning of the film pointing his SAA at people because he doesn't trust them.]]
+[[Image:YGSAA-6.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Billy and "Doc" Scurlock ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) fires their SAAs in the air during the party.]]
+[[Image:YG 213.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Charley Bowdre ([[Casey Siemaszko]]) draws his SAA during a confrontation.]]
+[[Image:YGSAA-10.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Billy pulls his SAA with his left hand to shoot a man in the head.]]
+[[Image:YGSAA-9.jpg|thumb|none|602px|Apparently this isn't enough so he shoots him again in the chest and ''then'' he falls down dead.]]
+[[Image:YGSAA-8.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Dick" Brewer ([[Charlie Sheen]]) points his SAA at Billy.]]
+[[Image:YGSAA-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy files down the front sight on his SAA so he can have 1/8ths of an advantage on Sheriff Brady.]]
+[[Image:YGSAA-14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Doc with his nickel SAA.]]
+[[Image:YGSAA-15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Charley Bowdre ([[Casey Siemaszko]]) fires his SAA during the final shootout.]]
+==Single Action Army Cavalry==
+The [[Single Action Army]] Cavalry is also used in the film.
+[[Image:ColtSAALongBarrel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army 7½" Cavalry - .45 Long Colt.]]
 [[Image:YGSAA-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two posse members searching for Billy the Kid are armed with Cavalry Single Action Armies.]]
-[[Image:YGSAA-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy points a Quick Draw SAA at John Tunstall ([[Terence Stamp]]) when he offers him to join the Regulators.]]
-[[Image:YGSAA-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy prepares to shoot a pig that knocked him over with his SAA but is stopped when "Jose" Chavez y Chavez ([[Lou Diamond Phillips]]) throws several knives at him.]]
-[[Image:YGSAA-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy spends pretty much the entire beginning of the film pointing his SAA at people because he doesn't trust them.]]
-[[Image:YGSAA-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy and "Doc" Scurlock ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) fires their SAAs in the air during the party.]]
-[[Image:YGSAA-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy shoots McCloskey ([[Geoffrey Blake]]) in the head with his SAA.]]
-[[Image:YGSAA-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Apparently this isn't enough so he shoots him again in the chest and ''then'' he falls down dead.]]
-[[Image:YGSAA-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"Dick" Brewer ([[Charlie Sheen]]) points his SAA at Billy after he kills McCloskey.]]
-[[Image:YGSAA-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy files down the front sight on his SAA so he can have 1/8ths of an advantage on Sheriff Brady. Billy the Kid was not educated yet somehow he knows fractions. Odd.]]
 [[Image:YGSAA-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A braggadocios gun fighter claims his ornate Cavalry SAA is going to kill Billy the Kid, unaware he's talking to him.]]
-[[Image:YGSAA-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy unloads three rounds from his SAA and hands it back to him, then tells him he's The Kid. The gunfighter's gun clicks empty three times before Billy kills him.]]
+[[Image:YGSAA-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy unloads three rounds from his SAA and hands it back to him, then tells him he's The Kid. The gunfighter's gun clicks empty three times before Billy kills him. this was one of the many tricks Billy The Kid used in real life to win his gunfights.]]
-[[Image:YGSAA-14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Doc with his nickel SAA.]]
-[[Image:YGSAA-15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Charley Bowdre ([[Casey Siemaszko]]) fires his SAA as he is mowed down by the US Army.]]
+==Single Action Army Artillery==
+The [[Single Action Army]] Artillery revolver is also used throughout the film.
+[[Image:ColtSingleActionArmy.jpg|thumb|none|400px|[[Colt Single Action Army]] w/ 5½" barrel known as the "Artillery" model. .45 Long Colt]]
+[[Image:YG 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Murphy's men (an uncredited [[Tom Cruise]]) opens fire with the SAA Artillery.]]
 ==Colt New Service==
-During the opening credits (shot in original 19th century style film), one of the Regulators is seen firing two [[Colt New Service]] revolvers, even though these are highly anachronistic to the era.
+During the opening credits (processed to emulate 19th century style film), one of the Regulators is seen firing two [[Colt New Service]] revolvers.  These are highly anachronistic to the era, but were likely used because the Single Action Army couldn't be fired with the speed required.
-[[Image:ColtNewService1917.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt New Service M1917 - .45 ACP.]]
+[[Image:ColtNewService1917.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt New Service M1917 - .45 ACP.]]
-[[Image:YGColtNewService-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
+[[Image:YGColtNewService-1.jpg|thumb|none|602px|During the opening credits, an anachronistic [[Colt New Service]] revolver is fired.]]
-[[Image:YGColtNewService-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
+[[Image:YGColtNewService-2.jpg|thumb|none|602px|The Colt New Service is fired.]]
+==Smith & Wesson New Model No 3==
+While shooting in the town, "Dirty Steve" Stephens ([[Dermot Mulroney]]) fires a [[Smith & Wesson New Model No.3|Smith & Wesson New Model No. 3]] along with his [[Single Action Army]].  A [[Smith & Wesson New Model No.3|Smith & Wesson New Model No. 3]] is also used by Charley Bowdre ([[Casey Siemaszko]]).
+[[Image:S&wno3nm.jpg|thumb|none|300px| Smith & Wesson New Model No.3]]
+[[Image:YGS&W3rdmodel-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Charley Bowdre ([[Casey Siemaszko]]) fires his Smith & Wesson New Model No.3 in his left hand and a Single Action Army in his right in the final shootout.]]
+=Rifles=
 ==Sharps 1874 Cavalry Carbine==
 Josiah Gordon "Doc" Scurlock ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]), the obvious sharpshooter of the Regulators, uses a [[Sharps Rifle#Sharps 1874 Cavalry Carbine|Sharps 1874 Cavalry Carbine]] as his long arm in the film.
 [[Image:Sharps1874cavalarycarbine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sharps 1874 Cavalry Carbine - .45-70.]]
-[[Image:YGSharpsCarbine-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Doc points his Sharps 1874 Cavalry Carbine at Billy the Kid when they first meet him hiding in a cow pen.]]
+[[Image:YGSharpsCarbine-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|Josiah Gordon "Doc" Scurlock ([[Kiefer Sutherland]]) points his Sharps 1874 Cavalry Carbine at Billy the Kid when he and Tunstall first meet him hiding in a cow pen.]]
 [[Image:YGSharpsCarbine-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Doc points his Sharps Carbine at Sheriff Brady's men.]]
 [[Image:YGSharpsCarbine-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A thug runs out of the bar armed with a Sharps Carbine.]]
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 [[Image:YGShotgun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dirty Steve holds his shotgun on the men by the creek.]]
 [[Image:YGShotgun-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|While under the influence of Chavez y Chavez's Peyote pellets, Steve manages to fire off three shots from a two shot shotgun without reloading.(Though it may have just been the Peyote)]]
-[[Image:YGShotgun-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dirty Steve fires his shotgun at Bradey's bounty hunter.]]
+[[Image:YGShotgun-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dirty Steve fires his shotgun at Brady's bounty hunter.]]
 [[Image:YGShotgun-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Steve fires his shotgun while holed up in the house.]]
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 Several characters in the film are seen using [[Winchester Model 1873|Winchester 1873]] saddle ring carbines. Of the Regulators who use the gun, "Dick" Brewer ([[Charlie Sheen]]), Billy the Kid ([[Emilio Estevez]]), and "Charley" Bowdrey ([[Casey Siemaszko]]) are of notable mention.
 [[Image:Winchester1873.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester 1873 - .44-40 WCF.]]
-[[Image:YGWin73-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Bradey's men with a Winchester 1873.]]
+[[Image:YGWin73-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Brady's men with a Winchester 1873.]]
 [[Image:YGWin73-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the thugs outside the bar fires his Winchester 1873 at the regulators.]]
 [[Image:YGWin73-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dick aims his Winchester '73.]]
 [[Image:YGWin73-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Native American with a well-worn and tribally decorated '73 rifle.]]
-[[Image:YGWin73-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bradey's bounty hunter kills Dick, who overacts his death a lot.]]
+[[Image:YG_03.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bounty hunter Buckshot Roberts ([[Brian Keith]]) shows up at the Tunstall Ranch armed to the teeth, including a Winchester carried in his right hand.]]
-[[Image:YGWin73-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sheriff Bradey reaches for his Winchester before being killed by Billy the Kid.]]
+[[Image:YGWin73-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Roberts pokes his rifle through the timbers of an outhouse and kills Dick (who overacts his death a lot).]]
+[[Image:YGWin73-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sheriff Brady (Daniel Kamin) reaches for his Winchester before being killed by Billy the Kid.]]
 [[Image:YGWin73-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy the Kid poses with his Winchester rifle for his famous photograph. The actual photograph is shown for comparison, showing Hollywood's often inaccurate portrayal of the 1870-1890 Western "Cowboy" and his clothing and style compared to the real Wild West. This was one of the top topics discussed between analysts in the late 1980's when the original photo was enhanced, manipulated i.e. color or shade alteration to increase clarity or visibility and then studied intensely by top experts from the relevant professions; all types of film experts, computer experts, Wild West historians, etc. The theory that Billy was left handed was disproved when the same panel of experts proved that the famous photo of Billy the Kid was a reverse ferrotype and therefore was flipped-so the movie is right on that).]]
-Historians have pointed out that the actual photograph is inconsistent with reality, the loading breech on the rifle is on the wrong side, indicating the "real" picture is a flip copy of the actual photo. this also disproves the left handedness of Billy the Kid as his primary revolver would be on his right hip if the photo was flipped true to put the loading gate back on the right of the rifle. So the fake picture in the movie is actually consistent with history.
 [[Image:YGWin73-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Billy with a Winchester rifle while holed up in the house.]]
 [[Image:YGWin73-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Charley unloads both his Winchester rifles on the US Army.]]
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 [[Image:YGWin66-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A thug in the town with a Yellow Boy.]]
+=Other=
 ==Colt Gatling Gun==
-The US Army uses a [[Gatling Gun|Colt Gatling Gun]] to kill Alex McSween ([[Terry O'Quinn]]), wasting roughly thirty rounds on one man!
+The U.S. Cavalry uses a [[Gatling Gun|Colt Gatling Gun]] near the film's conclusion, apparently wasting roughly thirty rounds on one man!
 [[Image:Gatling gun 1865.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1865 Gatling Gun - .44 Rimfire.]]
-[[Image:YGGatlingGun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Army men fire their Gatling Gun at McSween.]]
+[[Image:YGGatlingGun-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The U.S. Cavalry fire their Gatling Gun.]]
-[[Image:YGGatlingGun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|McSween has his over dramatic death.]]
+[[Image:YGGatlingGun-2.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Gatling fired on the right by its Operator (an uncredited [[Randy Travis]]).]]
-[[Image:YGGatlingGun-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Gatling stops firing.]]
+[[Image:YGGatlingGun-3.jpg|thumb|none|601px|The Gatling stops firing.]]
-==Smith & Wesson 3rd Model==
-While shooting in the town, Dirty Steve Stephens ([[Dermot Mulroney]]) fires a [[Smith & Wesson 3rd Model]] akimbo with his [[Single Action Army]].
-[[Image:YGS&W3rdmodel-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Dirty Steve fires his Smith & Wesson 3rd Model and Single Action Army while the scene plays in slow motion.]]

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Revolvers

Colt 1877 Double Action

Single Action Army Quickdraw

Single Action Army Cavalry

Single Action Army Artillery

Colt New Service

Smith & Wesson New Model No 3

Rifles

Sharps 1874 Cavalry Carbine

10 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun

Winchester 1873

Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy"

Other

Colt Gatling Gun

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