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==Additional Variants== | |||
[[File:Smith & Wesson mod39 4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 39-2 - 9x19mm]] | |||
===Airsoft Replicas=== | |||
[[File:MGC Mk 22 Mod 0 GG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MGC Mk 22 Mod 0 - 9x19mm Parabellum.]] | |||
[[File:MGC M459 GG pistol.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MGC M459 with wood grips (Note the same safety used in actual Mk 22s) - 9x19mm Parabellum.]] | |||
==.38 Special== | ==.38 Special== | ||
:Didn't they make this gun in .38 special too? I swear I've seen one before at a gunshow-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC) | :Didn't they make this gun in .38 special too? I swear I've seen one before at a gunshow-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 05:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
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==39-2== | ==39-2== | ||
What is the difference between the model 39 and the model 39-2? From the images it looks like the sights might be slightly different but I can't see any clear distinction. | What is the difference between the model 39 and the model 39-2? From the images it looks like the sights might be slightly different but I can't see any clear distinction. | ||
*The 39-2 is just an updated model 39. If you own a S&W, you can send it back to the factory to have it updated and they will stamp it with a dash and a number. (-2, -3, etc.) It's not always done when they send it back (sometimes because of local laws), and 99% of the time for all intents and purposes, they are identical. Usually the update includes stuff like springs, operating rods, and little internals that may be worn out. --[[User:Ranger12|Ranger12]] 22:17, 3 November 2011 (CDT) | |||
== Added the Hush Puppy == | |||
I thought we should list the Mk22 Mod 0, given its appearances on articles. --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 21:40, 7 March 2016 (EST) | |||
:Does anyone know the production dates, bu chance? --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 19:23, 8 March 2016 (EST) | |||
::I believe that they were made in a single batch in 1968. I believe that in 1971 two pistols were assembled from left over parts as examples of the Hush Puppy, but those don't really count (they are also slightly different with an earlier developmental stock attachment point). --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 19:45, 8 March 2016 (EST) | |||
On the topic of the Hush Puppy, does anybody actually '''know''' what the deal is with the single stack/double stack frame models? The vast majority of stuff online seems to state that the double stack was the actual version that was used and that the single stack was an early version of prototype. From everything that I can actually find I really don;t think that this is the case. First off, the double stack version has the frame step the same as the 59 so they are readily identifiable, and the vast majority of images you can find of the Mk 22 appears to be the single stack version. I also do not buy that this is a prototype, as it is only the single stacks that are marked with the "MK 22 Mod 0" designation, as shown more clearly below:[[https://imfdb.org/wiki/File:MK_22_MOD_0_suppressor_attached.jpg]] | |||
As for the double stacks, I can only find images of 2 guns, one of the which has a serial number indicating that it is a tool room gun, and the other has a "1" painted on each side of the rear sight with a description stating that 2 experimental all steel double stack guns were made. Both of these images also lack the Mk22 markings suggesting that they were experimental. I think that part of the confusion about this is that at the same time S&W were making double stack variants using Browning HP magazine for the SEALs. These were not suppressed guns and were purely experimental and were not adopted with the exception of 12 trial pistols. Apparently due to S&W not having the tooling set up for them (meaning that every gun was basically an experimental custom), it took them 18 months to build the 12 pistols. Therefore I find it kind of hard to believe that at the same time S&W could be pumping out hundreds of double stack Hush Puppies with no problems. | |||
I was going to change the description to clear this up but wanted to check if anybody else knew anything different first. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:47, 9 March 2016 (EST) | |||
:I've read they made 200 with the single stack frame and the rest were double stack, but that's about all I can find. --[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 18:49, 9 March 2016 (EST) | |||
:Since it seems they were single stack, I'll change the description.--[[User:Maxman|Maxman]] ([[User talk:Maxman|talk]]) 15:23, 18 January 2019 (EST) | |||
Charles Durning used one in "Cat Chaser". Demonstrating the slide lock cost him dearly.--[[User:Krel|Krel]] ([[User talk:Krel|talk]]) 23:17, 22 May 2016 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 11:27, 16 January 2023
Additional Variants
Airsoft Replicas
.38 Special
- Didn't they make this gun in .38 special too? I swear I've seen one before at a gunshow-S&Wshooter 05:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, that was a modified target version with a longer barrel designated the model 52. -Anonymous
- I remember going to that show and then learning that so did my computer guy, who later told me he almost bought the .38 Model 39-S&Wshooter 21:30, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
39-2
What is the difference between the model 39 and the model 39-2? From the images it looks like the sights might be slightly different but I can't see any clear distinction.
- The 39-2 is just an updated model 39. If you own a S&W, you can send it back to the factory to have it updated and they will stamp it with a dash and a number. (-2, -3, etc.) It's not always done when they send it back (sometimes because of local laws), and 99% of the time for all intents and purposes, they are identical. Usually the update includes stuff like springs, operating rods, and little internals that may be worn out. --Ranger12 22:17, 3 November 2011 (CDT)
Added the Hush Puppy
I thought we should list the Mk22 Mod 0, given its appearances on articles. --Maxman (talk) 21:40, 7 March 2016 (EST)
- Does anyone know the production dates, bu chance? --Maxman (talk) 19:23, 8 March 2016 (EST)
- I believe that they were made in a single batch in 1968. I believe that in 1971 two pistols were assembled from left over parts as examples of the Hush Puppy, but those don't really count (they are also slightly different with an earlier developmental stock attachment point). --commando552 (talk) 19:45, 8 March 2016 (EST)
On the topic of the Hush Puppy, does anybody actually know what the deal is with the single stack/double stack frame models? The vast majority of stuff online seems to state that the double stack was the actual version that was used and that the single stack was an early version of prototype. From everything that I can actually find I really don;t think that this is the case. First off, the double stack version has the frame step the same as the 59 so they are readily identifiable, and the vast majority of images you can find of the Mk 22 appears to be the single stack version. I also do not buy that this is a prototype, as it is only the single stacks that are marked with the "MK 22 Mod 0" designation, as shown more clearly below:[[1]]
![[1]](https://imfdb.org/wiki/File:MK_22_MOD_0_suppressor_attached.jpg){kind=link}
As for the double stacks, I can only find images of 2 guns, one of the which has a serial number indicating that it is a tool room gun, and the other has a "1" painted on each side of the rear sight with a description stating that 2 experimental all steel double stack guns were made. Both of these images also lack the Mk22 markings suggesting that they were experimental. I think that part of the confusion about this is that at the same time S&W were making double stack variants using Browning HP magazine for the SEALs. These were not suppressed guns and were purely experimental and were not adopted with the exception of 12 trial pistols. Apparently due to S&W not having the tooling set up for them (meaning that every gun was basically an experimental custom), it took them 18 months to build the 12 pistols. Therefore I find it kind of hard to believe that at the same time S&W could be pumping out hundreds of double stack Hush Puppies with no problems.
I was going to change the description to clear this up but wanted to check if anybody else knew anything different first. --commando552 (talk) 06:47, 9 March 2016 (EST)
- I've read they made 200 with the single stack frame and the rest were double stack, but that's about all I can find. --Maxman (talk) 18:49, 9 March 2016 (EST)
- Since it seems they were single stack, I'll change the description.--Maxman (talk) 15:23, 18 January 2019 (EST)
Charles Durning used one in "Cat Chaser". Demonstrating the slide lock cost him dearly.--Krel (talk) 23:17, 22 May 2016 (EDT)