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The gun in the hands of JCVD, is that actually in the movie as a franken-gun or is it photoshopped? I havent seen the movie and there are no caps up yet. --[[User:Mythekal|Mythekal]] | The gun in the hands of JCVD, is that actually in the movie as a franken-gun or is it photoshopped? I havent seen the movie and there are no caps up yet. | ||
[[Image:UniSolR.jpg|thumb|none|600px]] | |||
--[[User:Mythekal|Mythekal]] | |||
Guns used appear to be Bulgarian Arsenal AR's, some of which are mocked up as M16A3's, as seen in [[Day of the Dead (2008)|Day of the Dead]]. Just before NGU attacks UniSol 2, 2 is shown with an M16/A1. Captain Burke has a suppressed AUG when doing his recon. | |||
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I'm not sure on any of the pistols, especially [[Jean Claude Van Damme|Van Damme's]] auto pistol. But Commander Topoff's pistol might be a Makarov. | |||
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Can't make screens since official release isn't until Febuary 2. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 18:34, 1 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
::YEs. Those AK Franken guns that are mocked up to look like M16 variants appear ALL THE TIME. Just watch those 'Sci Fi Channel original movies" Manticore, Monster Ark, (as mentioned before [[Day of the Dead (2008)]], Raptor Island, etc. etc. I hate those guns. I figure armorers in Bulgaria should be able to get M16 variants, I mean the commercial ones are for sale all over the world. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 22:45, 1 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
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Actually, I'd describe Van Damme's Rifle as an "M16A4 with an Ak47 Clip". | |||
This is what I've seen in the actual movie, not what's on the Poster. -- 81.129.205.171 | |||
There are a few clear shots when he first picks up the rifle. It is obviously not an M16, or any other variant of the design. While it may not be the Arsenal AR, it is some kind of AK variant mocked up as an M16. Since it was filmed in Bulgaria, it's safe to assume that it is a Bulgarian model. As I said above, I can't make screens until a legit copy is released, but I guarantee you, and everyone here, that it is not an M16. Also, it's a magazine, not a clip. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 20:48, 2 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
Anyone wanna comment on an SR-47? Maybe how it IS or ISN'T whats on the poster. | |||
:No, it's not an SR-47. There's only about 5 or 6 SR-47s in existence, as it never went into full production. One is in KAC's possession, while the rest went to USSOCOM and are likely to never be seen again. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 21:38, 2 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Only seven SR-47s exist. Six went to USSOCOM and one was retained in the KAC museum. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:10, 3 February 2010 ( | |||
Correct me if i'm wrong, but did'nt chernobyl meltdown already? what would be the point in "blowing up" chernobyl. Would more radiation spread? i don't understand, but every time I see the preview for this movie i laugh. | |||
Reactor four melted down, from what I understand the first three still remain. With much of their original material still intact. Detonation just one of them could create similar fallout as the original incident in 1986. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 16:16, 19 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Beretta M93R == | |||
I think the Machine Pistol 'was' a Beretta M93R. | |||
I noticed the Beretta's Trigger Guard on the pistol during the Shooting Range sequence. | |||
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFqmfNKEVic Clip from StudioLPS. Watch at 00:19 | |||
Even if it's a Beretta mocked up as something else, the 93R's barrel is longer. | |||
It could be a Glock 18? Rex095 | |||
[[Image:Universal-Soldier-Regeneration-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|From teaser.]] | |||
:It's definitely not a Beretta 93R or Glock 18 because the barrel is too short. It would be physically impossible to fit either of those guns into a frame that size. It's something else, but I'm not sure what. I haven't seen anything like that made in Bulgaria, but I would guess it's gotta be some type of Eastern European-made weapon that is little-known in the West. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
I found this: http://www.fsdip.com/website/VBRBelgiumHome/English/ThePDW792VBRBCompact/tabid/190/Default.aspx Not the same but might inspiration (or like the pdws in stealth). Hope helps. | |||
I think this might be blank firing ''Zoraki 925'' - looks fairly similar to me and would make sense in the "low-cost" means of the movie: | |||
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exNcXJAmNLo I havent seen the movie though, so I may be wrong as of the sound; which could be digitally edited/remastered on the other side --[[User:Cover72|Cover72]] 21:49, 28 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Hmmm, you might be right. It is certainly possible. And yes, the sound of machine pistol bursts could have been added in post-production. Good suggestion. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 22:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
Yeah, thats definatly it. well done. guess i was wrong about the 93r :( | |||
== Unisol GR13 (Dolph Lundgren) == | |||
I seem to remember GR13 being fed into a ''combine'' at the end of the first movie and promptly ''cut to shreds''... [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 21:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
Its a clone...(with all memories and skills intact *rolls eyes*)[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 23:35, 2 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Oh, that's real original, only been done 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 times as of yet. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 00:10, 3 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
Yea, Dolph Lundgren actually said that the only reason he was in it was for memories of the old times and the fun.[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 02:07, 3 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
==About them screenshots..== | |||
I have the DVD and I'm gonna watch it today. If no one else is able to provide acreencaps, I'd be happy to... [[User:Warejaws]] 08:59, 3 February 2010. | |||
Your welcome to do it. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 09:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
==The AK variants== | |||
Anybody know if the one in the third picture could be a Norinco 56?.. [[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 10:22, 4 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
:No. Look at the front sight, it's open. The front sight on the 56 is hooded. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 03:19, 5 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
::It's probably one of the earlier Bulgarian-made AK-47 copies. Bulgaria has been producing AKs since the 1950s, and the versions they used to produce based on the Type 3 AK-47 were called the AKK and AKKS. It was only years later that they started producing the AR series with synthetic furniture. Since it seems that Bulgarian movie armorers have difficulty acquiring weapons made outside of their country, I would guess that the older-model AKs used by the terrorists are also of Bulgarian manufacture. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 17:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
==The shotgun== | |||
It definitely is a Mossberg 500 Cruiser... [[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 14:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
==The LMG== | |||
I added the RPK section and put up a screenshot... [[User:Warejaws|Warejaws]] 16:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
==machine pistol== | |||
the machine pistol could be this gas pistol or something I don't know how to call it I bet they're not to popular in America because of the laid back gun policy, but in my country a lot of criminals who rob people on the streets use them and some people carry them from protection you don't need a license for that. This model seems similar plus its auto fire. | |||
http://www.blueline-activities.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=48&products_id=307 | |||
== M16 == | |||
Due to the weapon changing right before a fight erupts, Could the M16 be a MGC Replica? | |||
I'll leave it to the professionals to determine the differences between the replica and genuine. | |||
:I don't think it's genuine, but I dunno if it's an MGC. It looks to me like a rubber stunt version. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] | |||
Given how it switched just before a fight, it being rubber is possible and entirely likely. --[[User:Crazycrankle|Crazycrankle]] 06:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
:I agree, most likely a rubber prop (and a poor one at that). Look at how the carry handle dips down slightly in the middle and how the barrel and butt stock both seem to be unlevel with the axis of the rest of the gun. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 08:11, 4 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Fake M16 == | |||
Are these fake M16s in any other movies? I am trying to get a better look at them as I just realised that the lightening cut above the magazine well is wrong for an Arsenal AR, and seems to match the one found on the [[Valmet M62]]. Having said that though, I think I can see the remains of a regular AK rear sight which wouldn't be on a Valmet. I know they are also in ''[[Day of the Dead (2008)]]'' but you can barely make it out in the caps. Could you machine down the bottom of a regular milled receiver to make it look like this (presumably so it lined up better with the A2 handguard), although this seems like a lot of effort to put into something that doesn't really look like an M16 anyway. Anyone have any thoughts? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 08:42, 16 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 13:42, 16 April 2012
Weapon on Poster
The gun in the hands of JCVD, is that actually in the movie as a franken-gun or is it photoshopped? I havent seen the movie and there are no caps up yet.
--Mythekal
Guns used appear to be Bulgarian Arsenal AR's, some of which are mocked up as M16A3's, as seen in Day of the Dead. Just before NGU attacks UniSol 2, 2 is shown with an M16/A1. Captain Burke has a suppressed AUG when doing his recon.
I'm not sure on any of the pistols, especially Van Damme's auto pistol. But Commander Topoff's pistol might be a Makarov.
Can't make screens since official release isn't until Febuary 2. --Crazycrankle 18:34, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- YEs. Those AK Franken guns that are mocked up to look like M16 variants appear ALL THE TIME. Just watch those 'Sci Fi Channel original movies" Manticore, Monster Ark, (as mentioned before Day of the Dead (2008), Raptor Island, etc. etc. I hate those guns. I figure armorers in Bulgaria should be able to get M16 variants, I mean the commercial ones are for sale all over the world. MoviePropMaster2008 22:45, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- Moved From Main Page
Actually, I'd describe Van Damme's Rifle as an "M16A4 with an Ak47 Clip". This is what I've seen in the actual movie, not what's on the Poster. -- 81.129.205.171
There are a few clear shots when he first picks up the rifle. It is obviously not an M16, or any other variant of the design. While it may not be the Arsenal AR, it is some kind of AK variant mocked up as an M16. Since it was filmed in Bulgaria, it's safe to assume that it is a Bulgarian model. As I said above, I can't make screens until a legit copy is released, but I guarantee you, and everyone here, that it is not an M16. Also, it's a magazine, not a clip. --Crazycrankle 20:48, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Anyone wanna comment on an SR-47? Maybe how it IS or ISN'T whats on the poster.
- No, it's not an SR-47. There's only about 5 or 6 SR-47s in existence, as it never went into full production. One is in KAC's possession, while the rest went to USSOCOM and are likely to never be seen again. Spartan198 21:38, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- Only seven SR-47s exist. Six went to USSOCOM and one was retained in the KAC museum. Spartan198 00:10, 3 February 2010 (
Correct me if i'm wrong, but did'nt chernobyl meltdown already? what would be the point in "blowing up" chernobyl. Would more radiation spread? i don't understand, but every time I see the preview for this movie i laugh.
Reactor four melted down, from what I understand the first three still remain. With much of their original material still intact. Detonation just one of them could create similar fallout as the original incident in 1986. --Crazycrankle 16:16, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Beretta M93R
I think the Machine Pistol 'was' a Beretta M93R.
I noticed the Beretta's Trigger Guard on the pistol during the Shooting Range sequence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFqmfNKEVic Clip from StudioLPS. Watch at 00:19
Even if it's a Beretta mocked up as something else, the 93R's barrel is longer.
It could be a Glock 18? Rex095
- It's definitely not a Beretta 93R or Glock 18 because the barrel is too short. It would be physically impossible to fit either of those guns into a frame that size. It's something else, but I'm not sure what. I haven't seen anything like that made in Bulgaria, but I would guess it's gotta be some type of Eastern European-made weapon that is little-known in the West. -MT2008 17:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I found this: http://www.fsdip.com/website/VBRBelgiumHome/English/ThePDW792VBRBCompact/tabid/190/Default.aspx Not the same but might inspiration (or like the pdws in stealth). Hope helps.
I think this might be blank firing Zoraki 925 - looks fairly similar to me and would make sense in the "low-cost" means of the movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exNcXJAmNLo I havent seen the movie though, so I may be wrong as of the sound; which could be digitally edited/remastered on the other side --Cover72 21:49, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
- Hmmm, you might be right. It is certainly possible. And yes, the sound of machine pistol bursts could have been added in post-production. Good suggestion. -MT2008 22:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, thats definatly it. well done. guess i was wrong about the 93r :(
Unisol GR13 (Dolph Lundgren)
I seem to remember GR13 being fed into a combine at the end of the first movie and promptly cut to shreds... Spartan198 21:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Its a clone...(with all memories and skills intact *rolls eyes*)Ranger01 23:35, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, that's real original, only been done 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 times as of yet. Spartan198 00:10, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Yea, Dolph Lundgren actually said that the only reason he was in it was for memories of the old times and the fun.Ranger01 02:07, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
About them screenshots..
I have the DVD and I'm gonna watch it today. If no one else is able to provide acreencaps, I'd be happy to... User:Warejaws 08:59, 3 February 2010.
Your welcome to do it. --Crazycrankle 09:12, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
The AK variants
Anybody know if the one in the third picture could be a Norinco 56?.. Warejaws 10:22, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
- No. Look at the front sight, it's open. The front sight on the 56 is hooded. Spartan198 03:19, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
- It's probably one of the earlier Bulgarian-made AK-47 copies. Bulgaria has been producing AKs since the 1950s, and the versions they used to produce based on the Type 3 AK-47 were called the AKK and AKKS. It was only years later that they started producing the AR series with synthetic furniture. Since it seems that Bulgarian movie armorers have difficulty acquiring weapons made outside of their country, I would guess that the older-model AKs used by the terrorists are also of Bulgarian manufacture. -MT2008 17:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
The shotgun
It definitely is a Mossberg 500 Cruiser... Warejaws 14:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
The LMG
I added the RPK section and put up a screenshot... Warejaws 16:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
machine pistol
the machine pistol could be this gas pistol or something I don't know how to call it I bet they're not to popular in America because of the laid back gun policy, but in my country a lot of criminals who rob people on the streets use them and some people carry them from protection you don't need a license for that. This model seems similar plus its auto fire. http://www.blueline-activities.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=48&products_id=307
M16
Due to the weapon changing right before a fight erupts, Could the M16 be a MGC Replica?
I'll leave it to the professionals to determine the differences between the replica and genuine.
- I don't think it's genuine, but I dunno if it's an MGC. It looks to me like a rubber stunt version. -MT2008
Given how it switched just before a fight, it being rubber is possible and entirely likely. --Crazycrankle 06:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
- I agree, most likely a rubber prop (and a poor one at that). Look at how the carry handle dips down slightly in the middle and how the barrel and butt stock both seem to be unlevel with the axis of the rest of the gun. Spartan198 08:11, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Fake M16
Are these fake M16s in any other movies? I am trying to get a better look at them as I just realised that the lightening cut above the magazine well is wrong for an Arsenal AR, and seems to match the one found on the Valmet M62. Having said that though, I think I can see the remains of a regular AK rear sight which wouldn't be on a Valmet. I know they are also in Day of the Dead (2008) but you can barely make it out in the caps. Could you machine down the bottom of a regular milled receiver to make it look like this (presumably so it lined up better with the A2 handguard), although this seems like a lot of effort to put into something that doesn't really look like an M16 anyway. Anyone have any thoughts? --commando552 08:42, 16 April 2012 (CDT)