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==Finally finished== | |||
Now it's all completely screencapped, how does everything look? I know some of the pictures aren't the best quality, so if there's any you think should be removed, please let me know beforehand. [[User:Death|Death]] | |||
::Why did you remove some of the previous pics that were of superior quality? Rule No 1 for IMFDB, best pics stay, regardless of who puts them on the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:26, 31 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
Its great how you added more photos but some are pretty dark and hard to see. One thing I would think about doing is really trying to limit the spoliers in the page. Im not sure if your wrote them all or not, but there is a real lot present in the decriptions and captions. Things such as "''Later in the film it is used by Megan (Emma Cleasby) after Joe is killed. Cooper finally uses it to kill Captain Ryan in his werewolf form.''" Can be redone to not give out so much info. --[[User:Mauser|Mauser]] 05:49, 1 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::I concur. That kind of Spoilers is specifically against IMFDB rules. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:42, 1 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::Sure thing, I can change them up, I just wanted to show how it was used by other characters that's all, and the reason or removal of the other images is because a lot of them seemed to be just google images, not actual screencaps. My apologies, I wasn't aware of that rule. [[User:Death|Death]] | |||
==A few little things.== | ==A few little things.== | ||
How does it look? I'm not completely finished with this page yet, there's a few more images and info I want to add and to add the stun grenade used, hopefully I can get some help identifying it. And also, I feel that some of the dialogue in this film would make nice quotes for the main page, such as "''Well we might have pissed on our chips. We've only got two full mags for the MP5's, six rounds for the shotgun and one spare, just in case.''.." Anyone else? [[User:Death|Death]] 01:21, 30 December 2009 (UTC) | How does it look? I'm not completely finished with this page yet, there's a few more images and info I want to add and to add the stun grenade used, hopefully I can get some help identifying it. And also, I feel that some of the dialogue in this film would make nice quotes for the main page, such as "''Well we might have pissed on our chips. We've only got two full mags for the MP5's, six rounds for the shotgun and one spare, just in case.''.." Anyone else? [[User:Death|Death]] 01:21, 30 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
:It looks great, much more complete! As for the Main Page quote, it might be OK, though it's not so "self-explanatory" as some of the others we usually put. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:31, 30 December 2009 (UTC) | :It looks great, much more complete! As for the Main Page quote, it might be OK, though it's not so "self-explanatory" as some of the others we usually put. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 01:31, 30 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Thanks, I had to do this film justice, it's one of my favourites. And what exactly do you mean by "self explanatory"? I always thought you just took cool quotes relating to guns. [[User:Death|Death]] 01:36, 30 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::They have to make sense to people who aren't 100% familiar with the film. So what's the deal with the "Pissed on our chips" quote? What's so exceptional about that sentence? Just curious since it just seems banal, thats all. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 21:28, 31 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
I think we should add a quote from Sgt. Wells "We are now up against live, hostile targets. So, if Little Red Riding Hood should show up with a bazooka and a bad attitude, I expect you to chin the bitch." But that's up to yall. | |||
Other than that good job on the page, Ive been waiting for someone to do this one justice. | |||
--[[User:Ranger01|Ranger01]] 01:56, 30 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
I agree, that's a pretty funny quote, and thanks, but I can't help but think I may have overdone the images a little. [[User:Death|Death]] | |||
==SR9(T)== | |||
[[Image:Dog soldiers sr905.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Terry surverys the area with the SR9(T).]] | |||
[[Image:Dog soldiers sr906.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Terry fires at the werewolves.]] | |||
Can anyone explain to me how this gun is an SR9(T)? It looks to me like a regular G3A3 with its flash hider removed. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] | |||
I thought it might've been a regular G3 myself (also look at the grip), but it was listed as a SR9(T) before I started work, so I left it as it was. Since I'm not the only one who thinks so, I'll list it as a G3A3 for now unless proved otherwise. [[User:Death|Death]] | |||
:I think whoever wrote that it's an SR9 was mistaken. It's definitely a G3A3. They even referred to it as a G3 during the commentary. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:17, 30 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Excellent, so we were right. It's good to see members of a film crew who actually know what weapons they're dealing with. [[User:Death|Death]] | |||
:::Both of you need your eyes examined. LOL That is NOT a standard G3 barrel. It's too long and it is a tapered barrel like the SR9. Also check out the rear sight and the thing that looks like an integral brass deflector behind the ejection port. Regular G3A3 my butt. ;) It has been modified to resemble a sniper variant. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Kevin McKidd == | |||
I'm sure others have noticed but Kevin McKidd who plays Pvt. Cooper in the movie also did the voice for "Soap" MacTavish in Moderen Warfare 2 and Jezz Torrent in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. | |||
Yup, i remembered the voice right when he started speaking, he definitely doesn't look like the BAMF i envisioned him to be. [[User:Kornflakes89|Kornflakes89]] 12:43, 24 August 2012 (CDT) | |||
== Stun Grenade ID == | |||
I think the stun grenade used is probably actually a smoke grenade. From the looks of it I think it is a L84 screening grenade, with a bit of tape wrapped around the middle to hide the text saying "GRENADE HAND SMOKE SCREENING". Unfortunately the only photo I can find of one right now is pretty lousy, so can't do a good comparison: | |||
http://www.kmnw.co.uk/store/images/tiberius/SMOKE.jpg (Obviously, the one standing upright) | |||
As this was a British film, I assume it would be a Brit grenade, and as it has a ridge at the top of the side, this shows it to be a screening variety rather than a signalling type which has a rounded edge. --[[User:Commando552|Commando552]] 20:18, 21 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Scopes == | |||
There is a continual error in the scene where sgt wells has his guts ripped out. i believe there are two different scopes on the two scoped mp5s. the first looks like a regular cross-hair scope, whilst the other has a battery compartment on the left hand side. during that scene sgt wells continually switches between the two. any help confirming this or identifying the scopes would be a great help? anon | |||
==Sequel== | |||
:Wasn't there supposed to be a sequel coming out a few years ago? I saw a few ads for it and then never heard about it again- | |||
[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 17:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
=='Springer' SA80s? == | |||
I see someone has posted this comment under one of the screen caps. Is this an airsoft/springer? I take the point that the bolt-release catch is upside down, but a screw in the cocking handle doesn't mean it's not real - I've seen one or two 'DIY' cocking handles for A1 SA80s (as the cocking handles could, and did break off) so a screw in that place, to me, doesn't make it a fake. Willing to be corrected though. | |||
Also - are the others airsoft props too? They all seem to have the bolt-relase catch the correct way around. Real or springers? | |||
[[User:Spanner|Spanner]] | |||
==Others explosive== | |||
When Sgt. Wells ([[Sean Pertwee]]) team stumbles upon the destoyed Special Ops team, among the guns they find some Stun Grenades. Although they are not actually seen taken from the Special Forces camp, so it's possible they could have been taken with the team for the training exercise. Private Cooper, Private Joe Kirkland, and Private 'Spoon' Withersoon use these Stun Grenades during the film to fend off the werewolves. | |||
[[Image:stun grenade01.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Joe readies his grenade.]] | |||
[[Image:stun grenade03.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Spoon drops his stun grenade out the window.]] | |||
[[Image:stun grenade02.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Close-up of Cooper's final grenade.]] | |||
Sgt. Wells ([[Sean Pertwee]]) uses a Molotov Cocktail at one point in the film. | |||
[[Image:DSMolotov.jpg|thumb|601px|none|Wells throws the Molotov Cocktail.]] | |||
Latest revision as of 07:21, 12 June 2013
Finally finished
Now it's all completely screencapped, how does everything look? I know some of the pictures aren't the best quality, so if there's any you think should be removed, please let me know beforehand. Death
- Why did you remove some of the previous pics that were of superior quality? Rule No 1 for IMFDB, best pics stay, regardless of who puts them on the page. MoviePropMaster2008 21:26, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Its great how you added more photos but some are pretty dark and hard to see. One thing I would think about doing is really trying to limit the spoliers in the page. Im not sure if your wrote them all or not, but there is a real lot present in the decriptions and captions. Things such as "Later in the film it is used by Megan (Emma Cleasby) after Joe is killed. Cooper finally uses it to kill Captain Ryan in his werewolf form." Can be redone to not give out so much info. --Mauser 05:49, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- I concur. That kind of Spoilers is specifically against IMFDB rules. MoviePropMaster2008 07:42, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- Sure thing, I can change them up, I just wanted to show how it was used by other characters that's all, and the reason or removal of the other images is because a lot of them seemed to be just google images, not actual screencaps. My apologies, I wasn't aware of that rule. Death
- I concur. That kind of Spoilers is specifically against IMFDB rules. MoviePropMaster2008 07:42, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
A few little things.
How does it look? I'm not completely finished with this page yet, there's a few more images and info I want to add and to add the stun grenade used, hopefully I can get some help identifying it. And also, I feel that some of the dialogue in this film would make nice quotes for the main page, such as "Well we might have pissed on our chips. We've only got two full mags for the MP5's, six rounds for the shotgun and one spare, just in case..." Anyone else? Death 01:21, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- It looks great, much more complete! As for the Main Page quote, it might be OK, though it's not so "self-explanatory" as some of the others we usually put. -MT2008 01:31, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, I had to do this film justice, it's one of my favourites. And what exactly do you mean by "self explanatory"? I always thought you just took cool quotes relating to guns. Death 01:36, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- They have to make sense to people who aren't 100% familiar with the film. So what's the deal with the "Pissed on our chips" quote? What's so exceptional about that sentence? Just curious since it just seems banal, thats all. MoviePropMaster2008 21:28, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
I think we should add a quote from Sgt. Wells "We are now up against live, hostile targets. So, if Little Red Riding Hood should show up with a bazooka and a bad attitude, I expect you to chin the bitch." But that's up to yall.
Other than that good job on the page, Ive been waiting for someone to do this one justice.
--Ranger01 01:56, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I agree, that's a pretty funny quote, and thanks, but I can't help but think I may have overdone the images a little. Death
SR9(T)
Can anyone explain to me how this gun is an SR9(T)? It looks to me like a regular G3A3 with its flash hider removed. -MT2008
I thought it might've been a regular G3 myself (also look at the grip), but it was listed as a SR9(T) before I started work, so I left it as it was. Since I'm not the only one who thinks so, I'll list it as a G3A3 for now unless proved otherwise. Death
- I think whoever wrote that it's an SR9 was mistaken. It's definitely a G3A3. They even referred to it as a G3 during the commentary. -MT2008 21:17, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Excellent, so we were right. It's good to see members of a film crew who actually know what weapons they're dealing with. Death
- Both of you need your eyes examined. LOL That is NOT a standard G3 barrel. It's too long and it is a tapered barrel like the SR9. Also check out the rear sight and the thing that looks like an integral brass deflector behind the ejection port. Regular G3A3 my butt. ;) It has been modified to resemble a sniper variant. MoviePropMaster2008 23:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Kevin McKidd
I'm sure others have noticed but Kevin McKidd who plays Pvt. Cooper in the movie also did the voice for "Soap" MacTavish in Moderen Warfare 2 and Jezz Torrent in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City.
Yup, i remembered the voice right when he started speaking, he definitely doesn't look like the BAMF i envisioned him to be. Kornflakes89 12:43, 24 August 2012 (CDT)
Stun Grenade ID
I think the stun grenade used is probably actually a smoke grenade. From the looks of it I think it is a L84 screening grenade, with a bit of tape wrapped around the middle to hide the text saying "GRENADE HAND SMOKE SCREENING". Unfortunately the only photo I can find of one right now is pretty lousy, so can't do a good comparison:
http://www.kmnw.co.uk/store/images/tiberius/SMOKE.jpg (Obviously, the one standing upright)
As this was a British film, I assume it would be a Brit grenade, and as it has a ridge at the top of the side, this shows it to be a screening variety rather than a signalling type which has a rounded edge. --Commando552 20:18, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Scopes
There is a continual error in the scene where sgt wells has his guts ripped out. i believe there are two different scopes on the two scoped mp5s. the first looks like a regular cross-hair scope, whilst the other has a battery compartment on the left hand side. during that scene sgt wells continually switches between the two. any help confirming this or identifying the scopes would be a great help? anon
Sequel
- Wasn't there supposed to be a sequel coming out a few years ago? I saw a few ads for it and then never heard about it again-
S&Wshooter 17:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
'Springer' SA80s?
I see someone has posted this comment under one of the screen caps. Is this an airsoft/springer? I take the point that the bolt-release catch is upside down, but a screw in the cocking handle doesn't mean it's not real - I've seen one or two 'DIY' cocking handles for A1 SA80s (as the cocking handles could, and did break off) so a screw in that place, to me, doesn't make it a fake. Willing to be corrected though. Also - are the others airsoft props too? They all seem to have the bolt-relase catch the correct way around. Real or springers? Spanner
Others explosive
When Sgt. Wells (Sean Pertwee) team stumbles upon the destoyed Special Ops team, among the guns they find some Stun Grenades. Although they are not actually seen taken from the Special Forces camp, so it's possible they could have been taken with the team for the training exercise. Private Cooper, Private Joe Kirkland, and Private 'Spoon' Withersoon use these Stun Grenades during the film to fend off the werewolves.
Sgt. Wells (Sean Pertwee) uses a Molotov Cocktail at one point in the film.
