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== AKM == | == AKM == | ||
AKM rifles are used by the Taliban operating in Afghanistan. | [[AKM]] rifles are used by the Taliban operating in Afghanistan. Cuban soldiers in Michael Malone's ([[Kevin P. Farley]]) documentary "Die, You American Pigs" are also armed with AKM rifles. | ||
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake 7.62x39mm]] | [[Image:AKMRifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake - 7.62x39mm]] | ||
[[Image:AC-AKMAfghan01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AKMs are | [[Image:AC-AKMAfghan01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AKMs are carried by Taliban members.]] | ||
[[Image:AC-AKMlineA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:AC-AKMlineA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[Image:AC-AKMsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuban Soldiers carry AKMs as Michael Malone prepares to leave | [[Image:AC-AKMsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuban Soldiers carry AKMs as Michael Malone prepares to leave for America. The soldier to the left is veteran stuntman [[Thomas Rosales Jr.]] of ''[[Predator 2]]'' fame.]] | ||
[[Image:AC-POPE-AKa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael Malone ([[Kevin P. Farley]]) is interviewed by Bill O'Reilly, we see a graphic in the background with Pope | [[Image:AC-POPE-AKa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael Malone ([[Kevin P. Farley]]) is interviewed by Bill O'Reilly, we see a graphic in the background with Pope Benedict XVI holding an AKM aloft.]] | ||
==AKMS== | ==AKMS== | ||
The AKMS | The [[AKMS]],the folding stock variant of the AKM rifle, is also seen carried by Taliban members. | ||
[[Image:AC-AKMAfghan02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aziz ([[Robert Davi]]) carries | [[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]] | ||
[[Image:AC-AKMAfghan02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aziz ([[Robert Davi]]) carries an AKMS as he tries to persuade "Terrorist on Bike" ([[Oren Rehany]]) to ride down the mountain with a bomb vest and no brakes.]] | |||
== | ==AIMS== | ||
A Romanian AIMS | A Romanian [[AIMS]] is seen in a pile of training materials captured in Afghanistan. | ||
[[Image:AC-AIMSa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|To the left is a Romanian AIMS | [[Image:RomanianAIMS std.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AIMS - 7.62x39mm]] | ||
[[Image:AC-AIMSa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|To the left is a Romanian AIMS rifle with side-folding stock.]] | |||
== | ==Single Action Army== | ||
General George S. Patton ([[Kelsey Grammer]]) carries a [[ | General George S. Patton ([[Kelsey Grammer]]) carries a [[Single Action Army]] revolver (likely a Cimarron reproduction) throughout the film, at one point contemplating shooting Michael Malone with it. | ||
[[Image:ColtSAA475barrel.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt Single Action Army "Quickdraw" Model - .45 LC]] | |||
[[Image:AC-PattonRevolverA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|General George S. Patton pulls out his SAA to shoot Michael Malone ([[Kevin P. Farley]]) but thinks better of it and puts it away.]] | |||
[[Image:AC-PattonSAAa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|General George S. Patton ([[Kelsey Grammer]]) talks to Malone with his SAA in his holster.]] | |||
[[Image:AC-SAA-KhandaharA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|General George S. Patton ([[Kelsey Grammer]]) takes Michael Malone to modern-day Afghanistan, while holding his SAA aloft.]] | |||
[[Image:AC-RugerA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The SAA is visible in Patton's holster as he explains to Malone that if Abraham Lincoln did not fight the American Civil War, slavery would not have been abolished.]] | |||
==Winchester Model 1912 Trench Gun== | |||
General Patton ([[Kelsey Grammer]]) and a group of World War II GIs fight off ACLU zombies with Winchester Model 1912 Trench guns. | |||
[[Image:WinchesterM12Trench.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Winchester Model 1912 "Trench Gun" with heat shield and bayonet lug - 12 gauge]] | |||
==Winchester Model | |||
General Patton ([[Kelsey Grammer]]) and a group of World War II GIs fight off ACLU zombies with Winchester Model | |||
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[[Image:AC-TrenchGunsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:AC-TrenchGunsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[Image:AC-TrenchLineupA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:AC-TrenchLineupA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
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== Remington 870 == | == Remington 870 == | ||
When the ACLU zombies are attacking people in court, the judge ([[Dennis Hopper]]) uses a [[Remington 870]] shotgun, handing one to Malone. | When the ACLU zombies are attacking people in court, the judge ([[Dennis Hopper]]) uses a [[Remington 870]] shotgun, handing one to Malone. | ||
[[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg |thumb|none| | [[Image:Remington870PoliceStd.jpg |thumb|none|450px|Remington 870 Police Magnum Riot Shotgun - 12 gauge]] | ||
[[Image:AC-Rem870a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Judge ([[Dennis Hopper]]) shoots ACLU zombie lawyers with his Remington 870 | [[Image:AC-Rem870a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Judge ([[Dennis Hopper]]) shoots ACLU zombie lawyers with his Remington 870.]] | ||
[[Image:AC-8870FireA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Judge ([[Dennis Hopper]]) fires his Remington 870 | [[Image:AC-8870FireA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Judge ([[Dennis Hopper]]) fires his Remington 870.]] | ||
[[Image:AC-870RackbackFireA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael Malone ([[Kevin P. Farley]]) accidentally fires his Remington 870 | [[Image:AC-870RackbackFireA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael Malone ([[Kevin P. Farley]]) accidentally fires his Remington 870 when he slams it down on the bench, however the foregrip is at the rearward position, meaning that the rack is all the way back, thus firing would be impossible.]] | ||
== M4 Carbine == | == Colt M4 Carbine == | ||
When Michael and Patton travel to Afghanistan numerous American soldiers are seen armed with [[ | When Michael and Patton travel to Afghanistan numerous American soldiers are seen armed with [[M4 Carbine]]s. | ||
[[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:ColtM4 FirstVersion.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Colt M4A1 Carbine with 4 position collapsible stock - 5.56x45mm]] | ||
[[Image:AC-M4sA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|American soldiers watch over enemy prisoners with M4 Carbines.]] | [[Image:AC-M4sA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|American soldiers watch over enemy prisoners with M4 Carbines.]] | ||
==M16A1== | ==Colt M16A1== | ||
During a country western music concert to benefit American troops, Michael Malone sees the ghosts of | During a country western music concert to benefit American troops, Michael Malone sees the ghosts of servicemen past watching over their modern counterparts. Only Malone can see the spirits of the soldiers and sailors from previous American conflicts, none of the other concert goers can see them. One of the first armed ghosts he sees is a Vietnam-era soldier, holding an [[M16A1]]. | ||
[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]] | [[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]] | ||
[[Image:AC-M16A1a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:AC-M16A1a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
== M1 Carbine== | == M1 Carbine== | ||
During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two Korean War veterans, holding post | During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two Korean War veterans, holding post-WWII [[M1 Carbine]]s. | ||
[[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Korean War-era M1 Carbine, with birch stock, adjustable sight, bayonet lug, and twin magazine pouch - .30 Carbine]] | ||
[[Image:AC-M1CarbinesKWa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:AC-M1CarbinesKWa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
==M1 Garand== | ==M1 Garand== | ||
During the same concert, Malone sees a single ghost of of a World War | During the same concert, Malone sees a single ghost of of a World War II-era soldier, carrying an [[M1 Garand]] rifle. | ||
[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M1 Garand semiautomatic rifle with leather M1917 sling - .30-06]] | ||
[[Image:AC M1GarandA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:AC M1GarandA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
== M1903A3 Springfield == | |||
During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two World War I-era troops One of them holds an anachronistic [[M1903A3 Springfield]] rifle. | |||
[[Image:Springfield03A3.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Remington-manufactured M1903A3 Springfield - .30-06 Springfield]] | |||
[[Image:AC-WW1SoldiersA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
== M1903 Springfield == | == M1903 Springfield == | ||
The other ghost of World War I-era troops carries a correct [[M1903 Springfield]]. | |||
[[Image:M1903Mark1.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:M1903Mark1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Springfield M1903 Mk 1 - .30-06 Springfield]] | ||
[[Image:AC | [[Image:AC M1GarandA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
== | ==Mauser Kar98k== | ||
Mauser [[Kar98k]] rifles were seen slung over the shoulders of German soldiers in 1938 when Michael Malone is thrown out of the window during the infamous 1938 Munich Agreement (where British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain attempted to appease Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany by having Czechoslovakia cede the borderlands region known as the Sudetenland to Nazi Germany) by General Patton. Two Kar98ks are also seen resting on a German tank during the 1938 Munich agreement scenes. | |||
[[Image: | [[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | ||
[[Image:AC-HagoA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two Mauser Kar98k rifles can be seen on the side of a German tank (in fact, the German tank is really a Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank).]] | |||
==Pattern | ==Enfield Pattern 1853== | ||
During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two Union soldiers from the American Civil War, both carrying the [[Enfield Pattern 1853]] (which was commonly used to supplement the .58 caliber [[Springfield 1861|Springfield musket]] that was the issued long gun of the "blue coats"). | |||
[[Image:AC- | [[Image:Enfield1853.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Enfield Pattern 1853 - .577 Ball]] | ||
[[Image:AC-577-Enfield-Musket.jpg|thumb|none|600px|To the left of the screen we can see the pair of the Civil War Union soldiers, one of them clearly, and he carries an Enfield Pattern 1853.]] | |||
==1728 First Model Brown Bess== | |||
Revolutionary War Continental Army soldiers are seen at the end armed with the 1728 British Land Pattern Musket, AKA the venerable "[[Brown Bess Flintlock Musket|Brown Bess]]". These are the earliest models with the brass end cap and extended lock shape. | |||
[[Image:BrownBessInfantry-Musket-1722-1768.jpg|thumb|none|450px|A modern reproduction "Long Land Pattern" Brown Bess infantry musket made from 1722-1768 - .75 caliber]] | |||
[[Image:AC-RevWara.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As the camera tracks to the right, we see the two Revolutionary War soldiers wielding Brown Bess muskets.]] | |||
==BGM 71 TOW | ==BGM 71 TOW == | ||
A [[BGM 71 TOW | A [[BGM-71 TOW]] is seen in the American military camp in Kandahar. | ||
[[Image:Tow 07.jpg|thumb|none|401px|BGM-71 TOW mounted on M220 launcher with daysight tracker, AN/TAS-4A night sight and FCS with inserted battery module - 152mm]] | |||
[[Image:AC-BGM-71-TOWa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:AC-BGM-71-TOWa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
== | ==Type 69 RPG== | ||
A Taliban members is briefly seen in the background carrying a [[ | A Taliban members is briefly seen in the background carrying a [[Type 69]] rocket launcher. | ||
[[Image:Type69RPG.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Type69RPG.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Chinese Type 69 RPG - 40mm]] | ||
[[Image:AC-RPGa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:AC-RPGa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
== | =Trivia= | ||
==Type 95 Light Tank "Ha-Go"== | |||
When General Patton walks Malone down the street after the signing of the infamous Munich Agreement of 1938, the pair walks past a series of armored vehicles and trucks being loaded by German troops. Incredibly, and rather anachronistically, there is an ultra rare Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank (called the "Ha-Go"), that was mostly used in Manchuria. It sports a 37mm main gun and a 7.7mm machine gun. Why it is there in the background with an anachronistic German Iron Cross on the body is a good question. | |||
When General Patton walks Malone down the street after the signing of the infamous | [[Image:AC-IJATank2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Patton and Malone walk past an Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank "Ha-Go" with a German Iron Cross emblem on the side of the body. The paint job is a perfect copy of the correct early war Imperial Japanese camo scheme and we can see the external muffler of the Ha-Go.]] | ||
[[Image:AC-IJATank2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Patton and Malone walk past an Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank "Ha-Go" with a German Iron Cross emblem on the side of the | |||
[[Image:AC-HagoA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank showing the 7.7mm secondary machine gun.]] | [[Image:AC-HagoA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank showing the 7.7mm secondary machine gun.]] | ||
==Inaccuracies regarding WWII uniforms and conduct== | |||
Despite being a fantastical comedy/satire, the uniforms of the major dictators was unusual in that the color red was essentially 'de-saturated' from their clothing. Tojo's brown uniform was grey, and his red collar tabs were also grey. Hitler's mustard-brown coat also seems to be missing the red as well as the NSDAP arm band. Mussolini's arm patch would have had red stripes, but it has grey ones. This ''could'' have been an intentional choice to show that they are "ghosts" of the past, but it is worth mentioning. As for the guards or adjutants, German ''Heer'' and SS officers didn't hold a posture like U.S. Marines when at a meeting. When not "at arms" (i.e. not wearing their belts and pistols or other military weapons), they would have their hats off and arms to the side. | |||
[[Image:AC-WW2UniformsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The color is "off" on the uniforms. Note that the Swastika arm bands have no red.]] | |||
[[Image:AC-WW2UniformsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The color is | |||
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[[Category:Movie]] | [[Category:Movie]] | ||
[[Category:Comedy]] | [[Category:Comedy]] | ||
[[Category:David Zucker]] |
Latest revision as of 11:02, 14 October 2022
The following weapons were seen in the film An American Carol:
AKM
AKM rifles are used by the Taliban operating in Afghanistan. Cuban soldiers in Michael Malone's (Kevin P. Farley) documentary "Die, You American Pigs" are also armed with AKM rifles.
AKMS
The AKMS,the folding stock variant of the AKM rifle, is also seen carried by Taliban members.
AIMS
A Romanian AIMS is seen in a pile of training materials captured in Afghanistan.
Single Action Army
General George S. Patton (Kelsey Grammer) carries a Single Action Army revolver (likely a Cimarron reproduction) throughout the film, at one point contemplating shooting Michael Malone with it.
Winchester Model 1912 Trench Gun
General Patton (Kelsey Grammer) and a group of World War II GIs fight off ACLU zombies with Winchester Model 1912 Trench guns.
Remington 870
When the ACLU zombies are attacking people in court, the judge (Dennis Hopper) uses a Remington 870 shotgun, handing one to Malone.
Colt M4 Carbine
When Michael and Patton travel to Afghanistan numerous American soldiers are seen armed with M4 Carbines.
Colt M16A1
During a country western music concert to benefit American troops, Michael Malone sees the ghosts of servicemen past watching over their modern counterparts. Only Malone can see the spirits of the soldiers and sailors from previous American conflicts, none of the other concert goers can see them. One of the first armed ghosts he sees is a Vietnam-era soldier, holding an M16A1.
M1 Carbine
During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two Korean War veterans, holding post-WWII M1 Carbines.
M1 Garand
During the same concert, Malone sees a single ghost of of a World War II-era soldier, carrying an M1 Garand rifle.
M1903A3 Springfield
During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two World War I-era troops One of them holds an anachronistic M1903A3 Springfield rifle.
M1903 Springfield
The other ghost of World War I-era troops carries a correct M1903 Springfield.
Mauser Kar98k
Mauser Kar98k rifles were seen slung over the shoulders of German soldiers in 1938 when Michael Malone is thrown out of the window during the infamous 1938 Munich Agreement (where British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain attempted to appease Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany by having Czechoslovakia cede the borderlands region known as the Sudetenland to Nazi Germany) by General Patton. Two Kar98ks are also seen resting on a German tank during the 1938 Munich agreement scenes.
Enfield Pattern 1853
During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two Union soldiers from the American Civil War, both carrying the Enfield Pattern 1853 (which was commonly used to supplement the .58 caliber Springfield musket that was the issued long gun of the "blue coats").
1728 First Model Brown Bess
Revolutionary War Continental Army soldiers are seen at the end armed with the 1728 British Land Pattern Musket, AKA the venerable "Brown Bess". These are the earliest models with the brass end cap and extended lock shape.
BGM 71 TOW
A BGM-71 TOW is seen in the American military camp in Kandahar.
Type 69 RPG
A Taliban members is briefly seen in the background carrying a Type 69 rocket launcher.
Trivia
Type 95 Light Tank "Ha-Go"
When General Patton walks Malone down the street after the signing of the infamous Munich Agreement of 1938, the pair walks past a series of armored vehicles and trucks being loaded by German troops. Incredibly, and rather anachronistically, there is an ultra rare Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank (called the "Ha-Go"), that was mostly used in Manchuria. It sports a 37mm main gun and a 7.7mm machine gun. Why it is there in the background with an anachronistic German Iron Cross on the body is a good question.
Inaccuracies regarding WWII uniforms and conduct
Despite being a fantastical comedy/satire, the uniforms of the major dictators was unusual in that the color red was essentially 'de-saturated' from their clothing. Tojo's brown uniform was grey, and his red collar tabs were also grey. Hitler's mustard-brown coat also seems to be missing the red as well as the NSDAP arm band. Mussolini's arm patch would have had red stripes, but it has grey ones. This could have been an intentional choice to show that they are "ghosts" of the past, but it is worth mentioning. As for the guards or adjutants, German Heer and SS officers didn't hold a posture like U.S. Marines when at a meeting. When not "at arms" (i.e. not wearing their belts and pistols or other military weapons), they would have their hats off and arms to the side.