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There are a few other guns in the movie that are not shown or mentioned besides the 1876 Winchester (funny, I always thought it was an 1886 model, which McQueen says in dialogue in the movie, is chambered in .45-60). There is a scene where Horn is shot at in the street while he is unarmed, because to that point he hadn't carried a "belly gun" and his rifle was in a scabbard on his horse. The gun, if I recall correctly (doing this from memory) was a Schofield, but I could be wrong. Also there is a shootout in a barn between Horn and some of the cattle rustling ring who are butchering rustled cattle where the rustlers and Horn are using cutdown double barreled shotguns. The sheriff, who is in the pay of the cattle barons also, mentions, but does not show, that he has "one of those new German automatics" in a desk drawer. I thought at first this was a reference to the 1896 Mauser, but read later that the sheriff, who is called "Joe Bell" in the movie but in reality was Joe Lefors, was referring to a Luger, which I suppose could be possible since the Luger was adopted by the Swiss in 7.65 caliber in 1900.
There are a few other guns in the movie that are not shown or mentioned besides the 1876 Winchester (funny, I always thought it was an 1886 model, which McQueen says in dialogue in the movie, is chambered in .45-60). I've seen documentaries that say the rifle Tom Horn carried was a Model 1894 Winchester .30-30, the Model 1886 in .45-60 is an interesting, though curious, choice for the director to choose. There is a scene where Horn is shot at in the street while he is unarmed, because to that point he hadn't carried a "belly gun" and his rifle was in a scabbard on his horse. The gun, if I recall correctly (doing this from memory) was a Schofield, but I could be wrong. The sheriff, who is in the pay of the cattle barons also, mentions, but does not show, that he has "one of those new German automatics" in a desk drawer. I thought at first this was a reference to the 1896 Mauser, but read later that the sheriff, who is called "Joe Bell" in the movie but in reality was Joe Lefors, was referring to a Luger, which I suppose could be possible since the Luger was adopted by the Swiss in 7.65 caliber in 1900.


Go ahead and screencap the movie. I don't own a copy so I was going off of memory. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:46, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Go ahead and screencap the movie. I don't own a copy so I was going off of memory. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 00:46, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
I would do so if my computer had that capability (it's rather aged now) and if I had replaced my VHS copy of the movie with a DVD. One of several that I've scheduled to do so. [[User:Harleyguy|Harleyguy]] 5:32 21 April 2010.
== Thanks Ben ==
Hooray. Screencaps. Thanks. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 08:21, 11 October 2011 (CDT)
== Please help ID this rear sight ==
Please help ID the rear sight of this Winchester. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 21:07, 24 June 2019 (EDT)
* I believe it's a Marble rear tang sight. It can be purchased new from Cimmaron Arms for $179.00. https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/1876-tom-horn-tang-sight.html
--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 17:42, 25 June 2019 (EDT)
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There are a few other guns in the movie that are not shown or mentioned besides the 1876 Winchester (funny, I always thought it was an 1886 model, which McQueen says in dialogue in the movie, is chambered in .45-60). I've seen documentaries that say the rifle Tom Horn carried was a Model 1894 Winchester .30-30, the Model 1886 in .45-60 is an interesting, though curious, choice for the director to choose. There is a scene where Horn is shot at in the street while he is unarmed, because to that point he hadn't carried a "belly gun" and his rifle was in a scabbard on his horse. The gun, if I recall correctly (doing this from memory) was a Schofield, but I could be wrong. The sheriff, who is in the pay of the cattle barons also, mentions, but does not show, that he has "one of those new German automatics" in a desk drawer. I thought at first this was a reference to the 1896 Mauser, but read later that the sheriff, who is called "Joe Bell" in the movie but in reality was Joe Lefors, was referring to a Luger, which I suppose could be possible since the Luger was adopted by the Swiss in 7.65 caliber in 1900.

Go ahead and screencap the movie. I don't own a copy so I was going off of memory. --Jcordell 00:46, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I would do so if my computer had that capability (it's rather aged now) and if I had replaced my VHS copy of the movie with a DVD. One of several that I've scheduled to do so. Harleyguy 5:32 21 April 2010.

Thanks Ben

Hooray. Screencaps. Thanks. --Jcordell 08:21, 11 October 2011 (CDT)

Please help ID this rear sight

Please help ID the rear sight of this Winchester. --Ben41 (talk) 21:07, 24 June 2019 (EDT)

--Jcordell (talk) 17:42, 25 June 2019 (EDT)

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