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| Most admins. only react because it is really difficult to find out if an anonymous user is just a vandal or not. And we're talking about a LOT of anonymous users. There's only about 10 or so admins. on this site so it's hard to weed out the bad. BTW, when you leave a message on someone's talk page, add a - (hyphen) and three ~ symbols, so your username will be left on the page, otherwise I have to sift through the page history to figure out who I'm talking to.
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| Also, I don't recommend you wipe your discussion clean after every chat, sometimes it's good to look back on discussions to remember important things (which is why us admins. have huge discussion pages). - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] (see, I marked my name. On the edit it will show I wrote it out but all I did was type three ~ symbols).
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| ==Enforcer Python==
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| I believe it is a Python, since it has a larger frame size than the Diamondback in Magnum Force. I actually had this talk with [[User:Jcordell]] recently, and he seems like a pretty big revolver buff, so I'll take his word for it. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
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| == Vice City ==
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| This page needs more pictures like this. Can you get similar pictures for the other weapons? [[PersonOfInterest]]
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| :You bet. In fact, since you brought it up, I'm going to do that for all the GTA games. Thanks! [[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 20:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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| No no, thank YOU good sir. My hat is off to you and your efforts. [[PersonOfInterest]]
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| :Much appreciated! :-D
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| You put the GTA3 rocket launcher in upside down. [[PersonOfInterest]]
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| :Yeah, I thought it didn't look right! Thanks, but I'm really not sure how to correct it. Do you know how?
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| == GTA Gun Images ==
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| You are using wrong gun models. For example, the 700 picture you put on the GTA III article is the model used in GTA IV not GTA III. Fix That, please.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:43, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :Yeah, for some reason, I couldn't upload the Remington pictures. I could only get the GTA IV pictures. I have to find new ones. If you could get me some, that would be awesome! Everything else should fit, however. If you don't think so, tell me which ones you think are wrong. Thanks! -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:33, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::All done. I hope that is sufficient. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Good Work Gunman!-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 12:41, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::Thanks! :-) -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 16:40, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
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| == RE: GTA Shotgun ==
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| Yeah, i think it is a over and under shotgun. Here is the page: [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]]. Look at the second section.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:13, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :Thanks. Most people have always thought it to be an Ithaca because it functions like a pump shotgun, so that's why I wrote it as an Ithaca, but still wanted confirmation. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 17:15, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
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| Legal reasons. I'm afraid that that's all I can say at the moment. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:12, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
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| :That's totally cool. I knew there was a good reason. Just thought I'd ask. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 03:13, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
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| == Re: Hill Street Blues ==
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| Thanks for the compliment and all the additional help you've been giving me with the page! I got the first season on DVD for my birthday so I should have those finished in the next two nights or so. Again, thanks for your help IDing the weapons and making the actor pages; your help has been very valuable! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 19:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
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| :Yeah, I can never find it on any channel! Also I heard they're only releasing the first two seasons on DVD and so far no word on whether or not there are any plans for the rest of the show but hopefully that'll change! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 20:21, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
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| == Re: Miami Vice ==
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| Thanks. It will take some time but after a while it will be a nice page. Also I appreciate all the help I can get on it. [[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 03:33, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
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| :: Hulu currently has the first 4 seasons listed. Which pisses me, I bought the dvd's awhile back. Not sure if you can screencap using Hulu. [[User:Predator20|Predator20]]
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| ==Actor Pages==
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| The way you currently make pages is not proper, so I figured I'd shoot you straight. You need to put the actor in two categories '''<nowiki>[[Category:Actor]]</nowiki>''' and if they are male '''<nowiki>[[Category:Actor Male]]</nowiki>''' or female '''<nowiki>[[Category:Actor Female]]</nowiki>'''. After this, you must search the site for every instance of an actor's gun use (look up their name before you make their page and find out what they used in each movie as their name shows up in searched) and list them all. And most importantly, you must add an image of the actor from one of their gun usages. For an example, see [[Jeffrey Dean Morgan]]'s page for proper format, since we now enforce the use of the new chart template. Thanks. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
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| ::Excellent work. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
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| == Ruger Mini-14/AC556 pic ==
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| I added that pic you uploaded to the [[Ruger Mini-14]] page. That one has the real short barrel, which the rest of the Mini-14 pics don't have. Good stuff. [[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 18:36, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
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| :Yeah I saw the Phillip Michael Thomas page, great work. While the [[Miami Vice]] page is finally getting some images, it has a long ways to go. I figured I would have some pics of Switek, Zito and Trudy by now. But there haven't been any worthy to put on the page. [[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
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| == Re: No Exit ==
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| I have a snap of it, it's not that great but I'll put it up. Also I got one of a police officer in The Hit List climax I need to put up too. Also Oliviera bitching about a set of quotations pissed me off, he doesn't contribute to the Miami Vice page. I don't see why he is worried about it. He could have added the quote marks himself if it meant so much to him. [[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:50, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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| ::I'll go back over the episode on take a snap of it. I'm capping "Glades" right now, there's a crap load of guns in it. A S&W 29 too. What pissed me off about the quotations is he went out of his way to point it out. Whenever you or I need to change a text, we don't say "you need to correct that". One of us corrects it and goes on to something else. [[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:04, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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| :::The Great McCarthy was a waste to even watch. One Beretta Cheetah which Izzey Merino handles, too dark to even use. There are some great guns in Glades. The muzzle loader is fucking cool. I got to get them sorted and numbered. They'll be up soon. [[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:42, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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| == No screencapping ==
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| It seems you can't screencap movies. Let's change that. You are good user and a lot of users don't know how to screencap so i though i would teach you.
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| Install it and later on i will show you how to screencap. Install that and we will talk.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:34, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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| :If you installed it then open it and you should see maximize (horrible spelling, i know) the window and see the menu. Up on the menu, along side Audio and Playback you should see Video. Click on that and you should see "Snapshot". When you need to screencap, you should pause the video and press "Snapshot". Depending on the DVD though, there could be a small but noticible delay between you pressing the pause button and the video pausing. It can be a problem sometimes but it depends on the DVD. It has nothing to do with the program. Do all that shit.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:58, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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| ::You should also make a section on your profile where you make a list of movies you want to screencap. Like my profile or Gunmaster's profile.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:04, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Oliveira, thanks for letting Gunman69 about the VLC player. I though most users already knew about it. A few things that make it easier. Go to View and click on advanced controls, that allows a snapshot button right where the play buttons are. Then go to Tools and click on preferences. Click on video on and set up the folder where you want the snaps to go and change the format to jpeg pics. [[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:23, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Isn't advanced controls on the "Tools" tab?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:35, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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| == Goddamm ==
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| You are quick on the trigger, man. Holy shit. It was less 2 hours ago that me and predator teached you how to screencap and now you are screencapping? Damm.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 23:01, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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| == Beverly Hills Cop ==
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| Great job with ''[[Beverly Hills Cop]]''! That page had definitely needed to be redone and you've certainly done it justice! [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 03:34, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
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| == Miami Vice ==
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| Are you working on just season 2? I'm about to cap Golden Triangle and don't want to be stepping over each other. Or just let me know what episodes you're going to do so I can skip over it. I'll do the same. [[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 17:54, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
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| Sounds good, get it done quicker. Also Oliveira is freaking out about your spelling of "Colombian". Look at recent changes on the main page and see what he wrote. [[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 18:26, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Yeah I hate those 1 picture episodes. You already made it to episode 17. I thought I was fast going through a season, I'm on episode 16 Rites of Passage. It was really great that you went through most of season 2. I can only work on the page in the evenings during the week. So I figure I can finish up the rest of season 1 through the week. Start on finishing up season 2 this weekend. Also with you writing the text makes it waaay easier for me, since that allows me more time to do caps. The page is really coming along, look at what it was a week ago. There wasn't shit on there. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:35, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
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| :::No problem, I've always tried to be educated on all eras of firearms, not just modern weaponry like most users here do. That's why I can also do westerns and even further back in history. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
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| Been thinking. I think we should categorize the guns on Vice. Handgun, shotgun, and rifle section, no separate "assault rifle" section. It's not a necessary thing to do on movie with 15 guns, we got 75 right now. I noticed when I was adding screencaps last night, it took me forever to find the gun I needed. What do you think? Also I'll go back on the pilot and grab that CAR-15 barrel. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:20, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
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| Thanks for the compliment. The page has really come a long way. It looks sharp. In my opinion Miami Vice deserves to have a great page. And I've added the show to my list of contributions. Thanks again. It's been a great team effort and lots of fun. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 06:05, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
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| Yeah, I have both of those snaps already in "Sons and Lovers". I'll post them up. "Irish Eyes" is capped.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 18:54, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
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| I forgot all about his gun being changed. I have 1 good shot that I'll post up. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:08, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
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| I always wonder why they didn't keep the SIG. Just hard chrome the slide and be done with it. Also I really hated that pink Miami Vice title. The only reason I put it up was because we were past season 1. Then they changed it to the purplish silver for season 3 which looks better to me. That pink was too much. There is some stock photos in the beginning of "Irish Eyes" that I need to put up and I'll make one section for the handgun display. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:23, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
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| They had to hard chrome the slide on the Bren Ten. So it could have been done to the SIG. I guess they had to go with the coolest new gun. Season 3 is pretty good. Also season 4 and 5 may take me longer because I haven't even watched an episode from them. I had finally finished up season 3 when I decided to start messing with the page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
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| I'll write the episode on the pics. Yeah I have been stalling and stalling on season 4 and 5 didn't want to ruin the series for me. Got to watch them sometime. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:28, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
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| If you want to put up that Hi-Power go ahead. On "Cuba Libre" there is an odd M16 style gun in the episode. Has a weird receiver. I don't if I'll have time to put it up Fri, maybe Sat along with the rest of the episode. We're about to eclipse [[Mail Call]].--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 01:46, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
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| :It's no problem writing the descriptions. You take care and I hope everything turns out okay. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 12:39, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
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| I was really hoping that the Vice page wouldn't get broken up. It would have only gotten worse as more episodes were done. -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 04:06, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
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| I was planning on going back over the episodes I capped for season 3. To see if any needed to be added. (There is still some from season 1 and 2 I need to add too.) I think there is still around 8 episodes remaining for the season also. I've been working on movies. But don't worry, probably cap at least 2 or 3 episodes this weekend and get any from previous episodes up. -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 14:14, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
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| == Season 1 MV ==
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| I think I got everything worthwhile in the last few episodes. I got some good shots from "Nobody Lives Forever". But there wasn't anything new, so I figured no point in adding them. If I missed anything good in "Evan" or 'Lombard". Let me know. This weekend I'll pick up on the end of season 2. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 02:13, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
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| == "Rafa" ==
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| You may want to send him a message. I think he was one of the original contributors on Miami Vice. The custom 1911 deserves its own section when we get to it. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:06, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
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| ::It shouldn't be too hard to see that it's being revamped by all the pics. He was basically putting back his original contributions. Maybe he saw it as, "those are missing". Maybe we should put at the top of the page that season 1 is done and part of season 2 is. The remaining seasons will be added soon. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:16, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
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| I saw that you sent him a message, he usually replies on his own talk page. I think the main page would be best, not everyone checks the talk page. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:21, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
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| == Take a look. ==
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| http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:LongPages --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:04, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
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| == It's not just artwork. ==
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| It's one of the loading screens, therefore it's in and part of the game. Anyway, we name guns on movie posters all the time. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 05:41, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
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| ::I could try, yes. I think for the most part the loading screens depict guns that are actually in the game itself, though; I was just struck by that one when starting up GTA IV, and saw it wasn't listed. In the end, any gun that appears after you turn the game on is in the game, and I've added guns that only showed up in associated promotional artwork or renders before, like the FN FNC in ''Dark Sector'' that ended up as a G36 in the actual game. I figure it's about the same as listing guns which only show up in movie poster art and trailers, which we do all the time. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 05:52, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
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| == Re: Hill Street Blues ==
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| Yeah, I'll admit I was always wondering about Hunter's revolver myself and I thought I had seen or heard somewhere it was a Python. I'll try and get some caps of the grips; if you want I can just post them to your talk page so you can see for yourself without making any dedicated arguments on the HSB page itself yet? I finally got the second season so I'll probably do some more shots from it tonight (if not, tomorrow) and I'll try and grab one since it's almost always in his holster in any scene he's in. [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]]
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| :Also, regarding the recent additions I saw you had made: the pistol I identified as a Browning Hi-Power, I thought I had noticed a similar design in the slide as the HP. Perhaps a better trained eye than my own would be able to discern which firearm it was. Also, the 1911 that LaRue places on the desk in the first episode (the one I had said was a Mk IV Series 70), I had identified as the Series 70 because of the Colt emblem on the grips that is characteristic of a Series 70 1911. However, if any markings on it prove it to be a standard 1911 rather than the Series 70, then I'll eat my words and we can change it. Also, thanks for all your help with the page, I'm glad to see another fan of the show on here! (And of course, all the work you and Predator20 have been doing with ''[[Miami Vice]]'' has been spectactular, I'd imagine you've been pretty busy!) - [[User:Speakeasy804|Speakeasy804]] 02:15, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
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| == Miami Vice season 2 ==
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| Do you keep any of your excess pics from season 2? I have a few I kept from the few episodes I did. They were good pics but we already had enough on the page. The season 1 page looks full and great. Need to do the same with the other seasons. -[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:41, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
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| ==I'm asking all members to stop with the sarcastic comments in the screencap descriptions==
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| Too many members feel it's funny to be extremely sarcastic about actor's shooting stance, their blinking, their pistol grips. Only if it's so over the top as for the average person to notice, then don't keep on harping on it. Most actors are given only a bare amount of time to train, if at all. Many times the editor picks the worst take for pistol grip, but best take for other reasons like acting. Also much of the blame falls on the director. Some directors don't want to be bothered trying to train the actors and don't allow us armorers to even give them more training than the minimum safety training. People in the industry check out this website, and some think we're a bunch of obnoxious kids. I am not happy when people in 'the biz' look at the site and scoff at the snarky remarks. Some of them are the actual actors being insulted. We can always put in criticism, but IMFDB members going forward going to criticize a film, should try to do so in a scholarly manner or not at all. Thanks for your cooperation [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:44, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
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| ==Screen used gun uploads==
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| Don't know if you've noticed by I'm putting up a lot of screen used guns on IMFDB. This will be the ONLY PLACE on the planet where these images exist. :) But since you're the architect of Miami Vice, I wanted to alert you to this. :) I put it in the 3rd Season page already, but if it shows up anywhere else, please know that it's there. I'm trying to get more screen used guns from Miami Vice (actual ones verified by Serial Numbers and show invoices) and put them here. Though you might like this. :) Best regards [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 04:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
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| [[Image:S&W645 DJohnson MVice.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson 645 - .45 ACP. This is the screen used Smith & Wesson 645 carried and used by [[Don Johnson]] in the Television Series [[Miami Vice]].]]
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| ==Live Free or Die Hard==
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| Good call on adding the UMP-45 the movie page. But you noted that the gun is built in the same configuration as the one in the movie. It IS one of the same guns from the movie. Papac used his UMPs on [[Live Free or Die Hard]] (2007) and then took those same guns and used them on the set of [[Iron Man (2008)]]. The UMPs were kept in the same configuration. Since the UMPs on [[Live Free or Die Hard]] were mostly used by minor actors playing bad guys, no one bothers to check who used what gun, but these are the same UMPs on [[Live Free or Die Hard]]. I guess I could call it a screen used gun on Bruce Willis' movie as well. Would it be confusing? [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 09:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
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| ==History of M1911==
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| before you relocate your proposal .... again. unfortunately, I am not interested in pursuing this. I am not knowledgeable about M1911s and really not that interested and it would take too much research. You are welcome to do it if interested. I was only doing the M16 age purely because I was trying to clear out what was FACT and what was URBAN MYTH that I had heard over the years. And I've heard a lot of stuff that turned out to be Urban Myth over the last 30 years. Also I've been collecting AR15s and M16s much more so than M1911s. I am convinced that no where else has the actual 'history' of the Civilian market. The military history is available in books and such. Unlike famous civilian guns like the Remingtons 700s or Winchester Model 70s, who tracks what was available to the general public for that type of rifle? Especially all the clone makers? Anyway I've heard so much false info (and unfortunately have repeated it myself and have had to retract it), that I wanted to set up a definite timeline of military/police/civilian models and try to make really educated guesses as to what would be in what film ... based on year. I took a break from that page but will start up again. I've been pretty busy with other photography as you can see. Anyway, that page is far from over. But it will be a good primer for folks to have at least a timeline of info to know when the Military version changes happened, and then when the civilian models were offered. Thanks again. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 18:42, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
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| ==Miami Vice==
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| I just finished watching the last few episodes of season 3, two weekends ago. (Watched a few of season 4 also). I plan on trying to get all the remaining eps from season 3 capped this weekend. Episodes 20 through 24 are all that are left from season 3. I won't start doing season 4 until I've watched all the episodes. After season 3 is done or mostly done. I want to go back on season 1 add some caps and some from the middle of season 3 that weren't necessary when it was all one page. I have been doing movies lately because I was burnt out on Vice. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 13:10, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
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| I don't think having a sub category for the manufacturer of the gun is all that necessary Colt, Beretta, S&W auto, or M16 type. But that's me. I pretty much know what episodes from season 3 I need to go back on. Walk-Alone has some shotguns that need to be added. 1 or 2 other back eps. I just want to get the remaining 4 episodes done and work back from there. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
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| Yeah I'll do that. I have just been doing little by little with descriptions. I uploaded 60 plus images from the last 5 remaining episodes, so it's a lot to fill in. I appreciate all the help. That sounds great filling in the main descriptions instead of "many characters use the Colt Python". With season being separated it makes it easier, so you don't two paragraphs worth. I can't believe I didn't notice the side ejection of Tubbs 870. (Too big of a hurry trying to get the images up.) I need to go and see if I can get more pics of it from prior episodes. I got some movies I need to finish work on, when those are done I'll go back on the previous episodes and we'll get seasons 1 through 3 wrapped. (They're 99% done as is.) I just finished watching the second disc of season 4.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 04:57, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
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| ==Too many screencaps===
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| Whoa whoa whoa! Don't start putting too many caps of the same gun! or I will start deleting them. There are two members here (who will go unnamed) who are the biggest violators of the 'too many screencaps' rule. Don't become like them. I'm sick of it and I will start reminding members that it is not a race to see who has the most screencaps per weapon. Try to keep it BELOW seven shots per weapon entry. I have a stake in the Reservoir Dogs page. I photographed the hero guns for the page. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 03:15, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
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| ==Great work on Reservoir Dogs==
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| Thanks for the streamlining of the page. You did great! [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 08:30, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Edit - also very interesting on the other weapons. This list will help to track down the OTHER hero guns. :) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]]
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| He's blocked now, some of these anonymous users need to grow up, I never seen such a childish comment. Thanks for telling me, if you need anything else, let me know.--[[User:Alienqueen11|Alienqueen11]] 00:56, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
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| He listed as playing 5 different roles in Vice. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 00:09, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
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| ==Re My Guns==
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| Thanks. I seem to go more for the classics. I'm not a big fan of Glocks, while they're super reliable and can take a lot of abuse. They're just ugly to me. HK's are not bad looking guns, neither are SIG's but they're pricey. For some the reliability is all that matters, but looks matter to me too. I just picked up a Beretta 92FS Inox a week ago. Whenever the scope for my L1A1 and flash hider for the Mini-14 come in, I'll take some pics of my long guns and the new to me Inox. The only reson I purchased the Inox was my Grandma was needing a larger gun than the .22 Colt Challenger she had. So I traded my 92F for it. I need more revolvers I only have one currently. So maybe two of those will be next purchases. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 20:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
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