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I think certain veteran members made a bad example by constantly looking for instances where an actor holds their gun poorly or blinks during firing.  But it's annoying.  The point of IMFDB is NOT to look for flaws and make fun of them, especially since we are capturing a SINGLE FRAME of film (i.e. 1/24th of a second) of the entire film.  Members can point out obvious movie flaws that would be interesting to the public for movie trivia purposes or 'goofs' but catching a guy with 1/24th of a second with their eyes closed and making a big deal out of it appears petty and immature to the general public.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:05, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
I think certain veteran members made a bad example by constantly looking for instances where an actor holds their gun poorly or blinks during firing.  But it's annoying.  The point of IMFDB is NOT to look for flaws and make fun of them, especially since we are capturing a SINGLE FRAME of film (i.e. 1/24th of a second) of the entire film.  Members can point out obvious movie flaws that would be interesting to the public for movie trivia purposes or 'goofs' but catching a guy with 1/24th of a second with their eyes closed and making a big deal out of it appears petty and immature to the general public.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:05, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:MPM, I think Gunman69 wrote all the text before the message you sent about the blinking and stuff. So does that mean any page we see that kind of stuff written we can take it off? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:20, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:MPM, I think Gunman69 wrote all the text before the message you sent about the blinking and stuff. So does that mean any page we see that kind of stuff written we can take it off? --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 21:20, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, Predator is right, this was all written LONG before you wrote that note, not recently. If you like I will take off all of that because not long ago, I looked back at this page and what I wrote seemed kind of excessive. So I apologize and I'll take all of it off now, but, again, this was written long ago, so you don't need to reiterate because I understand. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 21:48, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:Oh I see you've already done that for me. Nevermind. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 21:50, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::No problem.  My apologies, Sorry I didn't mean to seem like I was slamming it to the same folks over and over again.  It was mostly for the benefit of new members who may have not seen my comments about this previously.  I did not mean to look like I was picking on [[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]],  I didn't even bother looking at who wrote the stuff.  I will have to do that in the future.  [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 01:45, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Don't worry about it. :) -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 02:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
== Pistols in Waistbands ==
In this movie you see all of the Detectives wearing their pistols stuck in their waistbands.  '''My question is why are they tucked so far back on the weak side when the actors are right handed?'''  '''What is the positives for positioning your sidearm in this manner?'''  Was this something that Detroit detectives were doing at this time?  I know the Browning was used because Detroit was one of the few PDs that allowed its people to carry the 9mm semi-autos.  Any comments on why they carried in this manner would be appreciated.
:Quite frankly, its pretty unlikely that any police officer would carry their sidearm shoved in their waistband. So I think the reasons for this is just due to a lack of training the actors about how a police officers were normally carry a firearm. -[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 04:47, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
I'd accept taht as an answer but they all have their guns at the same place, on the left side, but forward, above the left hip.  If they were going to just shove them in their pants you'd see them in all sorts of crazy angles and places.  This is more uniform and seems to be that they were instructed to do it that way.
:Well, atleast Eddie Murphy can fire his gun while doing a good job of not flinching, but yeah, why it's facing his left side is beyond me. [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]]
== ''Stainless'' Model 10? ==
- Wouldn't a ''stainless'' S&W Model 10 actually be a Model 64? [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 03:03, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
yes. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 03:07, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
: - Right, but, the gun in the screencap is actually ''not'' a stainless Model 64, as it's not heavy-barreled. Are we sure the gun in the screencap is actually stainless in the first place? The finish doesn't seem to match up with the Model 67 next to it. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 03:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
::Okay three years later here is an answer. When S&W introduced the Model 67 in the early seventies the company made both the heavy barrel and the tapered barrel for the first few years then phased out the tapered barrel Model 67. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 18:12, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
::: Hey, better late than never, thanks. And looking at the high-def screencaps, the finish now does look more stainless and closer to the Model 67, so it ''could'' be a Model 64 after all. What say you, JCordell?  [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 18:41, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
The other possibility is that it's a nickle plated Model 10. Detroit PD carried nickle plated revolvers into the eighties. One of the things they were known for back then. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 16:50, 27 September 2014 (EDT)
== ''Stainless'' Colt MK IV Series 70? ==
Actually, it must be nickel-finished. Colt did not made the Colt Government in stainless stell until the Series 80. [[User:Rafa|Rafa]] ([[User talk:Rafa|talk]]) 17:33, 13 November 2012 (EST)
==Window Scene==
SPOILER ALERT
Gah, I LOVED that scene where Foley got thrown through the window! Priceless! And then he got arrested for 'disturbing the peace.' 'I got thrown through a WINDOW! What's the fucking charge for being thrown out of a moving car, ''jaywalking''?!' I love this movie xD --[[User:Taurus96|Taurus96]] 16:53, 3 June 2011 (CDT)
: I agree, it is a classic, and one of Eddie Murphy's finest - no doubt about that. I always loved the opening truck chase where the wacko driver pretty much obliterates everything in sight. And of course having plenty of guns doesn't hurt. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:52, 20 July 2011 (CDT)
The "banana in the tailpipe" was also a classic! --[[User:Btgr|Btgr]] ([[User talk:Btgr|talk]]) 02:03, 14 November 2012 (EST)

Latest revision as of 07:40, 30 April 2015

Knock it off with the sarcastic comments

I think certain veteran members made a bad example by constantly looking for instances where an actor holds their gun poorly or blinks during firing. But it's annoying. The point of IMFDB is NOT to look for flaws and make fun of them, especially since we are capturing a SINGLE FRAME of film (i.e. 1/24th of a second) of the entire film. Members can point out obvious movie flaws that would be interesting to the public for movie trivia purposes or 'goofs' but catching a guy with 1/24th of a second with their eyes closed and making a big deal out of it appears petty and immature to the general public. MoviePropMaster2008 19:05, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

MPM, I think Gunman69 wrote all the text before the message you sent about the blinking and stuff. So does that mean any page we see that kind of stuff written we can take it off? --Predator20 21:20, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, Predator is right, this was all written LONG before you wrote that note, not recently. If you like I will take off all of that because not long ago, I looked back at this page and what I wrote seemed kind of excessive. So I apologize and I'll take all of it off now, but, again, this was written long ago, so you don't need to reiterate because I understand. -Gunman69 21:48, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Oh I see you've already done that for me. Nevermind. -Gunman69 21:50, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
No problem. My apologies, Sorry I didn't mean to seem like I was slamming it to the same folks over and over again. It was mostly for the benefit of new members who may have not seen my comments about this previously. I did not mean to look like I was picking on Gunman69, I didn't even bother looking at who wrote the stuff. I will have to do that in the future. MoviePropMaster2008 01:45, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Don't worry about it. :) -Gunman69 02:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Pistols in Waistbands

In this movie you see all of the Detectives wearing their pistols stuck in their waistbands. My question is why are they tucked so far back on the weak side when the actors are right handed? What is the positives for positioning your sidearm in this manner? Was this something that Detroit detectives were doing at this time? I know the Browning was used because Detroit was one of the few PDs that allowed its people to carry the 9mm semi-autos. Any comments on why they carried in this manner would be appreciated.

Quite frankly, its pretty unlikely that any police officer would carry their sidearm shoved in their waistband. So I think the reasons for this is just due to a lack of training the actors about how a police officers were normally carry a firearm. -Gunman69 04:47, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

I'd accept taht as an answer but they all have their guns at the same place, on the left side, but forward, above the left hip. If they were going to just shove them in their pants you'd see them in all sorts of crazy angles and places. This is more uniform and seems to be that they were instructed to do it that way.

Well, atleast Eddie Murphy can fire his gun while doing a good job of not flinching, but yeah, why it's facing his left side is beyond me. M14fanboy

Stainless Model 10?

- Wouldn't a stainless S&W Model 10 actually be a Model 64? StanTheMan 03:03, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

yes. --Jcordell 03:07, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

- Right, but, the gun in the screencap is actually not a stainless Model 64, as it's not heavy-barreled. Are we sure the gun in the screencap is actually stainless in the first place? The finish doesn't seem to match up with the Model 67 next to it. StanTheMan 03:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Okay three years later here is an answer. When S&W introduced the Model 67 in the early seventies the company made both the heavy barrel and the tapered barrel for the first few years then phased out the tapered barrel Model 67. --Jcordell (talk) 18:12, 25 September 2013 (EDT)
Hey, better late than never, thanks. And looking at the high-def screencaps, the finish now does look more stainless and closer to the Model 67, so it could be a Model 64 after all. What say you, JCordell? StanTheMan (talk) 18:41, 25 September 2013 (EDT)

The other possibility is that it's a nickle plated Model 10. Detroit PD carried nickle plated revolvers into the eighties. One of the things they were known for back then. --Jcordell (talk) 16:50, 27 September 2014 (EDT)

Stainless Colt MK IV Series 70?

Actually, it must be nickel-finished. Colt did not made the Colt Government in stainless stell until the Series 80. Rafa (talk) 17:33, 13 November 2012 (EST)

Window Scene

SPOILER ALERT

Gah, I LOVED that scene where Foley got thrown through the window! Priceless! And then he got arrested for 'disturbing the peace.' 'I got thrown through a WINDOW! What's the fucking charge for being thrown out of a moving car, jaywalking?!' I love this movie xD --Taurus96 16:53, 3 June 2011 (CDT)

I agree, it is a classic, and one of Eddie Murphy's finest - no doubt about that. I always loved the opening truck chase where the wacko driver pretty much obliterates everything in sight. And of course having plenty of guns doesn't hurt. StanTheMan 18:52, 20 July 2011 (CDT)

The "banana in the tailpipe" was also a classic! --Btgr (talk) 02:03, 14 November 2012 (EST)