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[[Image:DAD Ult.jpg|none|thumb|300px|DVD cover for Ultimate Edition of ''Die Another Day'' (2002)]] | |||
==Umarex p99 PAK blank fire replica== | |||
The Propstore of London is selling fired PAK blanks claiming to be used in the production of Die Another Day. Stating in the listing that Umarex provided the production with 9mm PAK blank replicas because the real guns were unreliable with blanks.--[[User:James3|James3]] 08:32, 13 October 2011 (CDT) | |||
=="Type 88"== | =="Type 88"== | ||
I don't think it is a Type 88. The only Type 88s around are in North Korea, which I don't think they would be handing out to a film that made it look bad. There are 5.45mm steel magazines for the AK around, like this: http://home.comcast.net/~shooter2_indy/ak74_mag_guide.html So I think it's just a mocked up AK74 to look like a North Korean Type 88. [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 13:23, 6 September 2009 (UTC) | I don't think it is a Type 88. The only Type 88s around are in North Korea, which I don't think they would be handing out to a film that made it look bad. There are 5.45mm steel magazines for the AK around, like this: http://home.comcast.net/~shooter2_indy/ak74_mag_guide.html So I think it's just a mocked up AK74 to look like a North Korean Type 88. [[User:Hoot471|Hoot471]] 13:23, 6 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
:You're correct. That is quite obviously a Chinese Type 56-1 rifle (not an AK-74; the magazine is too curved for 5.45x39mm) mocked up to look like a DPRK Type 88 rifle. Some anonymous user changed it without our permission, because he apparently didn't stop to consider what you said. But you're right; there's no way that that's a genuine Type 88 rifle. North Korea, unlike the Chinese, has never exported its weapons for Western consumers, so there's no way that the movie's armorers could have access to a Type 88. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] | :You're correct. That is quite obviously a Chinese Type 56-1 rifle (not an AK-74; the magazine is too curved for 5.45x39mm) mocked up to look like a DPRK Type 88 rifle. Some anonymous user changed it without our permission, because he apparently didn't stop to consider what you said. But you're right; there's no way that that's a genuine Type 88 rifle. North Korea, unlike the Chinese, has never exported its weapons for Western consumers, so there's no way that the movie's armorers could have access to a Type 88. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] | ||
::I agree with Hoot. There is no way an North Korean gun would find its way to a western movie.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:10, 7 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
why dont we have the bond movies titles in order so there easier to find? | |||
:They're right here: http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Category:James_Bond | |||
Does Desmond Llewelyn need his own page? He played Q in all those movies, surely he's handled firearms at some point. --[[User:Redram355|redram355]] 20:45, 31 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Stechkin APS == | |||
Do North Korean soldiers use this machine pistol as one of their sidearms in real life? | |||
::No, the North Korean People's army uses indigenously produced versions of the Tokarev TT-33 (as the Type 68), Makarov PM and CZ-75 (as the Baek-Du-San). | |||
Why not? It's Russian. | |||
:: And what? Political and especially economic relations even between the USSR and the North Korea were not such good as thought in the US. In the USSR the Korean communists always considered a bit mad. And now economic relations between Russia and the North Korea are almost stopped, except official diplomacy. Besides the North Korea was always closer to China. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 10:43, 2 October 2011 (CDT) | |||
== DShK image == | |||
Could an admin switch the DShK example image to this: | |||
[[Image:DShKM-vehicle-mount.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DShKM heavy machine gun in standard vehicle mounting on a Romanian TR-85 main battle tank - 12.7x108mm]] | |||
I just realised we didn't have a picture of the vehicle mount (which looks rather different to the normal gun) and I think this makes a better example. I'd do it myself but the page is locked. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 23:59, 1 October 2011 (CDT) | |||
== MAC 10 == | |||
I just want to know why the KOREAN ARMY had MAC 10 machine pistols if it is american made. Just wanted to know if there was any history behind it. | |||
thanx | |||
:The UK has had MAC-10s in its' inventory for quite some time (as has the US) but I doubt they have seen any action for just as long. I remember seeing a pic of a 22nd SAS trooper in an early anti-terror kit (pre-Princess Gate) where his main weapon was a MAC-10 and not the ubiquitous MP-5. --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 23:52, 30 March 2012 (CDT) | |||
== SIG Sauers == | |||
why not use the same SIG for everyone in the training simulation? Why 28 and 26? | |||
== Stechkin holster == | |||
What holster is this?:[[File:DAD 1012.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
I thought the Stechkin used its own shoulder stock as a holster. | |||
== P99 "disabled firing pin"? == | |||
Can someone just clear this up for me? I noticed on the page that someone described Bond's P99 malfunction being due to the firing pin being disabled - now I know in a Bond film (especially the pre-Craig era) that pretty much anything goes, but I've always wondered (in reality) wouldn't you have too strip the pistol to get at the firing pin? | |||
Cheers guys - [[Fixer]] | |||
It's worth noting that exactly what is done to Bond's pistol to make it incapable of firing isn't actually stated. So whoever decided it was a case of "disabled firing pin" was making things up. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] ([[User talk:The Wierd It|talk]]) 03:39, 17 February 2013 (EST) | |||
Actually in the novelization of the film, in this particular scene, it describes Bond pulling the trigger only to hear the sound of a disabled firing pin. I forget specifically whether it's described as disabled or bent but that is stated in the book. Probably where it was gotten from [[User:Bristow8411|Bristow8411]] ([[User talk:Bristow8411|talk]]) 00:42, 19 February 2015 (EST) | |||
The closeup of the S&W M10HB stuck to the MRI looks like it is a resin or rubber stunt gun, though beautifully gun. It'd also make sense to use one in that scence.--[[User:Tecolote|Tecolote]] ([[User talk:Tecolote|talk]]) 23:50, 21 October 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Hollywood tactics == | |||
Watched this again for some reason and it does contain a wonderful example of one of the Cardinal Rules of Hollywood Tactics: "When a plan fails, regardless of ''why'' it fails, it must be scrapped entirely and a totally new plan attempted." I mean they launch one ASAT, discover that the satellite can fire a beam which requires pointing the entire thing directly at the target and can probably only function at certain angles relative to the sun, and nobody says "hey, I know, let's have ''two'' missiles come at it from different directions!" [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 01:01, 18 February 2015 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 17:15, 21 February 2015
Umarex p99 PAK blank fire replica
The Propstore of London is selling fired PAK blanks claiming to be used in the production of Die Another Day. Stating in the listing that Umarex provided the production with 9mm PAK blank replicas because the real guns were unreliable with blanks.--James3 08:32, 13 October 2011 (CDT)
"Type 88"
I don't think it is a Type 88. The only Type 88s around are in North Korea, which I don't think they would be handing out to a film that made it look bad. There are 5.45mm steel magazines for the AK around, like this: http://home.comcast.net/~shooter2_indy/ak74_mag_guide.html So I think it's just a mocked up AK74 to look like a North Korean Type 88. Hoot471 13:23, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
- You're correct. That is quite obviously a Chinese Type 56-1 rifle (not an AK-74; the magazine is too curved for 5.45x39mm) mocked up to look like a DPRK Type 88 rifle. Some anonymous user changed it without our permission, because he apparently didn't stop to consider what you said. But you're right; there's no way that that's a genuine Type 88 rifle. North Korea, unlike the Chinese, has never exported its weapons for Western consumers, so there's no way that the movie's armorers could have access to a Type 88. -MT2008
- I agree with Hoot. There is no way an North Korean gun would find its way to a western movie.-Oliveira 21:10, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
why dont we have the bond movies titles in order so there easier to find?
- They're right here: http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Category:James_Bond
Does Desmond Llewelyn need his own page? He played Q in all those movies, surely he's handled firearms at some point. --redram355 20:45, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Stechkin APS
Do North Korean soldiers use this machine pistol as one of their sidearms in real life?
- No, the North Korean People's army uses indigenously produced versions of the Tokarev TT-33 (as the Type 68), Makarov PM and CZ-75 (as the Baek-Du-San).
Why not? It's Russian.
- And what? Political and especially economic relations even between the USSR and the North Korea were not such good as thought in the US. In the USSR the Korean communists always considered a bit mad. And now economic relations between Russia and the North Korea are almost stopped, except official diplomacy. Besides the North Korea was always closer to China. Flexo 10:43, 2 October 2011 (CDT)
DShK image
Could an admin switch the DShK example image to this:
I just realised we didn't have a picture of the vehicle mount (which looks rather different to the normal gun) and I think this makes a better example. I'd do it myself but the page is locked. Evil Tim 23:59, 1 October 2011 (CDT)
MAC 10
I just want to know why the KOREAN ARMY had MAC 10 machine pistols if it is american made. Just wanted to know if there was any history behind it. thanx
- The UK has had MAC-10s in its' inventory for quite some time (as has the US) but I doubt they have seen any action for just as long. I remember seeing a pic of a 22nd SAS trooper in an early anti-terror kit (pre-Princess Gate) where his main weapon was a MAC-10 and not the ubiquitous MP-5. --Charon68 23:52, 30 March 2012 (CDT)
SIG Sauers
why not use the same SIG for everyone in the training simulation? Why 28 and 26?
Stechkin holster
What holster is this?:
I thought the Stechkin used its own shoulder stock as a holster.
P99 "disabled firing pin"?
Can someone just clear this up for me? I noticed on the page that someone described Bond's P99 malfunction being due to the firing pin being disabled - now I know in a Bond film (especially the pre-Craig era) that pretty much anything goes, but I've always wondered (in reality) wouldn't you have too strip the pistol to get at the firing pin?
Cheers guys - Fixer
It's worth noting that exactly what is done to Bond's pistol to make it incapable of firing isn't actually stated. So whoever decided it was a case of "disabled firing pin" was making things up. The Wierd It (talk) 03:39, 17 February 2013 (EST)
Actually in the novelization of the film, in this particular scene, it describes Bond pulling the trigger only to hear the sound of a disabled firing pin. I forget specifically whether it's described as disabled or bent but that is stated in the book. Probably where it was gotten from Bristow8411 (talk) 00:42, 19 February 2015 (EST)
The closeup of the S&W M10HB stuck to the MRI looks like it is a resin or rubber stunt gun, though beautifully gun. It'd also make sense to use one in that scence.--Tecolote (talk) 23:50, 21 October 2014 (EDT)
Hollywood tactics
Watched this again for some reason and it does contain a wonderful example of one of the Cardinal Rules of Hollywood Tactics: "When a plan fails, regardless of why it fails, it must be scrapped entirely and a totally new plan attempted." I mean they launch one ASAT, discover that the satellite can fire a beam which requires pointing the entire thing directly at the target and can probably only function at certain angles relative to the sun, and nobody says "hey, I know, let's have two missiles come at it from different directions!" Evil Tim (talk) 01:01, 18 February 2015 (EST)