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About the M4s in the movie i just saw it today and it appears that barrels have been modified | About the M4s in the movie i just saw it today and it appears that barrels have been modified | ||
and it almost looks like it is for grenades and a light under the barrel, but if you look at the magazine it is a regular 5.56 magazine. | and it almost looks like it is for grenades and a light under the barrel, but if you look at the magazine it is a regular 5.56 magazine. | ||
: It looked like the forend from a G-36 or something similar in shape. It's impossible to be sure untill the DVD comes out though. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 16:27, 8 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
:: OK, I've been doing some digging and I think that the M4s may be fitted with [http://www.magpul.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=76&products_id=303 Magpul MOE handguards] in adittion to the CTR stocks, similar to [http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/ProductDetail?prodID=26749 this] airsoft gun. [[User:The Wierd It|The Wierd It]] 22:40, 29 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
Well if you look at the Beowulf they too have the same magazine look as the M4 only it holds less ammunition! Which would make total sense that a military unit would employ the .50 caliber Beowulf rifle to go up against huge robots, then a smaller 5.56mm round. Plus the upper receiver of the Beowulf can be easily mounted on any M4 or M-16 lower receiver. | Well if you look at the Beowulf they too have the same magazine look as the M4 only it holds less ammunition! Which would make total sense that a military unit would employ the .50 caliber Beowulf rifle to go up against huge robots, then a smaller 5.56mm round. Plus the upper receiver of the Beowulf can be easily mounted on any M4 or M-16 lower receiver. | ||
:I think we need Karnes on this one since i think he was the armorer on this film. Also, sign your posts by putting four ~ at the end of your post.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:37, 18 July 2009 (UTC) | :I think we need Karnes on this one since i think he was the armorer on this film. Also, sign your posts by putting four ~ at the end of your post.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:37, 18 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
Don't really know where to put this but: are you sure that the soldiers w/AKMs are on the Egy./Jor. border? I mean is that what it says in the movie because Egypt and Jordan don't have a border.[[User:Jp|Jp]] 02:22, 11 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
:It would be pretty hard, since Israel is between them. [[User:Atypicaloracle|Atypicaloracle]] 22:44, 21 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
[[Image:Beowulfar.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beowulf assault rifle, .50 Beowulf]] | [[Image:Beowulfar.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Beowulf assault rifle, .50 Beowulf]] | ||
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==GAU-19== | ==GAU-19== | ||
Some anoynimous user put in that there was a GAU-19 .50 BMG minigun in the film. I have seen the film and neather I nor my friends who have both seen the film and are firearms enthusiasts remember seeing such a weapon. We have seen lots of Miniguns mounted on NEST vehicles,but nothing that is the size and design of a GAU-19. thus I am blanking the section until proven wrong with a screencap or an armore on the film says that yes they have managed to get ahold of such a rare weapons system. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 07:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC) | Some anoynimous user put in that there was a GAU-19 .50 BMG minigun in the film. I have seen the film and neather I nor my friends who have both seen the film and are firearms enthusiasts remember seeing such a weapon. We have seen lots of Miniguns mounted on NEST vehicles,but nothing that is the size and design of a GAU-19. thus I am blanking the section until proven wrong with a screencap or an armore on the film says that yes they have managed to get ahold of such a rare weapons system. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 07:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
** Can we get some sort of ruling on this because I am pretty sure that was a GAU-19 and not a minigun or some mocked up chaingun --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 01:29, 30 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
Well it's not a Minigun and it's way too small to bwe a GAU-19/A. You can tell that from looking at the scale of the photo of the GAU-19 armed HHMWV and the weapons on the NEST vehicles. We have discussed it on the forum and they are mockups as far as we can tell. Steve would have mentioned it long ago if he had managed to get his hands on such a weapon as he worked on the film and built the handheld minigun in it. --[[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 03:15, 30 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::The mocked up GAU/19 guns appear to be Browning M1919s based on their shapes and reciever features. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | |||
I can conclude that this gun is, if anything, a Browning M37, with special tri-barrel shell around it. You can actually see it spinning when it is fired, probably from some remote control | |||
== Anyone? == | |||
Someone going to do this movie? It's out on DVD for a few weeks now. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 16:22, 20 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
:I have it and would, but i have a feeling that GM45 will just delete them with Blu-ray HD pics instead. -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]] | |||
::GM45 is probably not going to be back for a while. Also, last I checked, he doesn't have Blu-Ray, just standard-def. I do have Blu-Ray, but I haven't had time to work on very many projects for a while. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] | |||
:::Oh well hell, i'll start tomorrow then :) -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]] | |||
::::I have this on my Blockbuster rental lineup, but as with GM45, I only have standard DVD capability. Do you have Blu-Ray, Winchester? [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 02:44, 21 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Nope, standard for me as well. -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]] | |||
I have a DVD quality version on my computer, so I'll pitch in, since this might take awhile. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 06:59, 21 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::I can also see about getting the Blu Ray (I'm sure somebody I know has it and will let me borrow it). But I doubt I'm going to find time to work on it until Christmas vacation. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 14:55, 21 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
:I have Blu-Ray, but I can't screencap. Sucks, doesn't it?-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 16:25, 21 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Well, you could install VLC media player and screencap it but I don't think Spetsnaz would allow it.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:27, 21 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
:No, he would probably kill me with a pencil or something if I did-[[User:S&Wshooter|S&Wshooter]] 22:02, 4 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
== M26 MASS? == | |||
Could the Marine in the pic below seems to have M26 MASS on his M4? Due to the way he's holding it, the Mag in front doesn't look like it's for the M4. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 23:23, 23 March 2010 (UTC) | |||
[[Image:TF2 009.jpg|thumb|none|600px]] | |||
It's also too bulky to be a 5.56 mag, so yeah, I'd surmise it to be an MASS. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 16:08, 27 February 2012 (CST) | |||
== HK416 == | |||
I think there was at least one HK416 in the movie. In the below behind the scenes image I think the guy kneeling on the left is using a 10" barrelled HK416, the handguard matches along with the markings on the magazine well and the lack of barrel mounted front sight: | |||
[[File:TF2 1003.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]] | |||
Anyone know if it was actually visible in the main film at any point? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 04:58, 27 February 2012 (CST) | |||
== L85A2? == | |||
From one of the pages I've seen it said the L85A2 was used in the movie? This is the link http://www.icollector.com/Rubber-stunt-L85A2-assault-rifle-from-Transformers-Revenge-of-the-Fallen_i8633076 --[[User:Recon42|Recon42]] 08:46, 8 June 2012 (CDT)Recon42 | |||
:I've seen that prop before but never saw it in the movie. It is actually based on an L85A1 (round bolt handle) and my guess is that it was originally going to be carried by the British NEST members but was abandoned in favour of just giving everyone M4s. I suppose it could have been in the background, but I never saw it. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 11:50, 8 June 2012 (CDT) | |||
::Armorer Steve Karnes mentioned in a discussion on the IMFDB forum that they had L85s (and also L86s) sent out on the movie, and that they were real blank-adapted firearms. I am sure that they weapons appear in the movie somewhere, but the footage featuring them was mostly unused. Somebody with a copy of the movie and good eyes will have to go hunting to see if they appear anywhere in the final release. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 15:23, 3 November 2013 (EST) | |||
== Railgun == | |||
Does this count as a legitimate weapon that can be listed along with the other firearms?? It is used by the U.S.S. John C. Stennis to damage Devastator towards the climax when the Decepticon is attempting to use the harvester. | |||
[[File:ROTF_rail_gun.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]] | |||
-Ft763 | |||
:The Stennis is an aircraft carrier, you'd think the military advisors would've caught this. And it can be listed under trivia, since it's clearly not a real weapon. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 07:43, 11 January 2019 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 12:43, 11 January 2019
I'm sorry for the shitty quality of these pics. The video players were tiny and i couldnt make them any bigger. This will have to do, but I promise to get better ones when more footage is released. The Winchester
- Thats a little better, but more will come. Just so everyone knows, (im a freak, I know) both main military characters have been promoted, so they are now Major Lennox and Senor Master Sergeant Epps. -The Winchester
About the M4s in the movie i just saw it today and it appears that barrels have been modified and it almost looks like it is for grenades and a light under the barrel, but if you look at the magazine it is a regular 5.56 magazine.
- It looked like the forend from a G-36 or something similar in shape. It's impossible to be sure untill the DVD comes out though. The Wierd It 16:27, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- OK, I've been doing some digging and I think that the M4s may be fitted with Magpul MOE handguards in adittion to the CTR stocks, similar to this airsoft gun. The Wierd It 22:40, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Well if you look at the Beowulf they too have the same magazine look as the M4 only it holds less ammunition! Which would make total sense that a military unit would employ the .50 caliber Beowulf rifle to go up against huge robots, then a smaller 5.56mm round. Plus the upper receiver of the Beowulf can be easily mounted on any M4 or M-16 lower receiver.
- I think we need Karnes on this one since i think he was the armorer on this film. Also, sign your posts by putting four ~ at the end of your post.-Oliveira 17:37, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Don't really know where to put this but: are you sure that the soldiers w/AKMs are on the Egy./Jor. border? I mean is that what it says in the movie because Egypt and Jordan don't have a border.Jp 02:22, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- It would be pretty hard, since Israel is between them. Atypicaloracle 22:44, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
The music
Along Linkin Park which is in my opinion, pure shit we are going to have another theme for this movie. I know this has nothing to do with guns but, i just though i had to post this here:
The first one to say that the song wasn't bad gets a 7.62 NATO to the head, you hear me?-Oliveira 23:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Also, The movie's main theme is going to be Cheap trick's version of the transformer theme.-Oliveira 00:48, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Why 7.62*51mm and not .357 SIG? beeteles
- More Ridiculous. As in "Commando" ridiculous.-Oliveira 01:14, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Someone ought to give Michael Bay a Belfast Six Pack( Bullet in the wrists, elbows and knees). He's such a dbag-76.31.5.208 (S&Wshooter)
- B-but....Bad Boys!
- You have a point, but it doesn't make up for his douchebaggery-76.31.5.208 (S&Wshooter)
- We can't blame Bay for that song. Cheap Trick is going to make the Theme Song so atleast that shows us that Michael Bay has enough of a brain to know that song is shit. Also, the first Bay Transformers movie was awesome and this one looks like to have more Robots and less humans and the usual Michael Bay "I have a boner for the US Military so here is the Military doing awesome things" scenes so that means that this one will be much better than the first one. Everything in Michael Bay movies explode which is AWESOME.
- I will just quote the Transformers Wiki article on him:
"He demands that things be AWESOME. And explode. Because explosions are awesome."
And that's true. Michael Bay is awesome and explosions are awesome. Here is the Transformers article on him: [1].
And to finish this, i will quote the TF wiki again:
"He starred in a Verizon FiOS commercial in which he had an awesome pussy cat (a tiger), an awesome grill (with a life-size Bumblebee, also awesome), and an awesome pool. Typically, he had a switch to blow something up, which he did...three times. The cat was not blown up (which was fortunate), but all three explosions were AWESOME."
- Every time I have seen a Bay movie other than Bad Boys, my eyes felt like they were going to literally bleed-76.31.5.208 04:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC) (S&Wshooter)
- Come On! The Rock was awesome!-Oliveira 17:32, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
I got to see an advance screening of this film 2 days before the official U.S. release (my sister won tickets from a local radio station and took me with her), and I have to say this film is truly awesome. A -lot- more action-oriented than the first Transformers, with some well-placed comic relief scenes. A lot of the guns seen in the film seemed to be fictional weapons though, but did see some real weapons including those mentioned in the article, as well as a couple of A2 or A4-model M16's(couldn't see if the carry handle/rear sight was held on by screws or not) and a couple of M240's. Definitely a must-see for anyone with -ANY- interest in Transformers at all. Orca1 9904 07:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thank god this movie is good. The first one was fun but most of the comic-relief was bad. I got one question though. Were Shia's parents funny? I liked them in the first movie and were they still funny?-Oliveira 16:41, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- They were pretty hilarious. I can't say too much without giving spoilers, but they make some pretty funny scenes in the film. Orca1 9904 16:50, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
M16 Variants
Several of the M16/AR variants seem like they have the handguard of the M16A2 LMG -Mythekal
Ravage
Yup. Ravage was good and he has cool miniguns. - Kenny99
GAU-19
Some anoynimous user put in that there was a GAU-19 .50 BMG minigun in the film. I have seen the film and neather I nor my friends who have both seen the film and are firearms enthusiasts remember seeing such a weapon. We have seen lots of Miniguns mounted on NEST vehicles,but nothing that is the size and design of a GAU-19. thus I am blanking the section until proven wrong with a screencap or an armore on the film says that yes they have managed to get ahold of such a rare weapons system. Rockwolf66 07:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
- Can we get some sort of ruling on this because I am pretty sure that was a GAU-19 and not a minigun or some mocked up chaingun --Charon68 01:29, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Well it's not a Minigun and it's way too small to bwe a GAU-19/A. You can tell that from looking at the scale of the photo of the GAU-19 armed HHMWV and the weapons on the NEST vehicles. We have discussed it on the forum and they are mockups as far as we can tell. Steve would have mentioned it long ago if he had managed to get his hands on such a weapon as he worked on the film and built the handheld minigun in it. --Rockwolf66 03:15, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- The mocked up GAU/19 guns appear to be Browning M1919s based on their shapes and reciever features. - Gunmaster45
I can conclude that this gun is, if anything, a Browning M37, with special tri-barrel shell around it. You can actually see it spinning when it is fired, probably from some remote control
Anyone?
Someone going to do this movie? It's out on DVD for a few weeks now. Excalibur01 16:22, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
- I have it and would, but i have a feeling that GM45 will just delete them with Blu-ray HD pics instead. -The Winchester
- GM45 is probably not going to be back for a while. Also, last I checked, he doesn't have Blu-Ray, just standard-def. I do have Blu-Ray, but I haven't had time to work on very many projects for a while. -MT2008
- Oh well hell, i'll start tomorrow then :) -The Winchester
- I have this on my Blockbuster rental lineup, but as with GM45, I only have standard DVD capability. Do you have Blu-Ray, Winchester? Orca1 9904 02:44, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oh well hell, i'll start tomorrow then :) -The Winchester
- GM45 is probably not going to be back for a while. Also, last I checked, he doesn't have Blu-Ray, just standard-def. I do have Blu-Ray, but I haven't had time to work on very many projects for a while. -MT2008
- Nope, standard for me as well. -The Winchester
I have a DVD quality version on my computer, so I'll pitch in, since this might take awhile. Excalibur01 06:59, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- I can also see about getting the Blu Ray (I'm sure somebody I know has it and will let me borrow it). But I doubt I'm going to find time to work on it until Christmas vacation. -MT2008 14:55, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- I have Blu-Ray, but I can't screencap. Sucks, doesn't it?-S&Wshooter 16:25, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Well, you could install VLC media player and screencap it but I don't think Spetsnaz would allow it.--Oliveira 16:27, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- No, he would probably kill me with a pencil or something if I did-S&Wshooter 22:02, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
M26 MASS?
Could the Marine in the pic below seems to have M26 MASS on his M4? Due to the way he's holding it, the Mag in front doesn't look like it's for the M4. --Ben41 23:23, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
It's also too bulky to be a 5.56 mag, so yeah, I'd surmise it to be an MASS. Spartan198 16:08, 27 February 2012 (CST)
HK416
I think there was at least one HK416 in the movie. In the below behind the scenes image I think the guy kneeling on the left is using a 10" barrelled HK416, the handguard matches along with the markings on the magazine well and the lack of barrel mounted front sight:
Anyone know if it was actually visible in the main film at any point? --commando552 04:58, 27 February 2012 (CST)
L85A2?
From one of the pages I've seen it said the L85A2 was used in the movie? This is the link http://www.icollector.com/Rubber-stunt-L85A2-assault-rifle-from-Transformers-Revenge-of-the-Fallen_i8633076 --Recon42 08:46, 8 June 2012 (CDT)Recon42
- I've seen that prop before but never saw it in the movie. It is actually based on an L85A1 (round bolt handle) and my guess is that it was originally going to be carried by the British NEST members but was abandoned in favour of just giving everyone M4s. I suppose it could have been in the background, but I never saw it. --commando552 11:50, 8 June 2012 (CDT)
- Armorer Steve Karnes mentioned in a discussion on the IMFDB forum that they had L85s (and also L86s) sent out on the movie, and that they were real blank-adapted firearms. I am sure that they weapons appear in the movie somewhere, but the footage featuring them was mostly unused. Somebody with a copy of the movie and good eyes will have to go hunting to see if they appear anywhere in the final release. -MT2008 (talk) 15:23, 3 November 2013 (EST)
Railgun
Does this count as a legitimate weapon that can be listed along with the other firearms?? It is used by the U.S.S. John C. Stennis to damage Devastator towards the climax when the Decepticon is attempting to use the harvester.
-Ft763
- The Stennis is an aircraft carrier, you'd think the military advisors would've caught this. And it can be listed under trivia, since it's clearly not a real weapon. --Funkychinaman (talk) 07:43, 11 January 2019 (EST)