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=Additional Variants | =Additional Variants= | ||
[[File:Izhevsk MP-446C.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:Izhevsk MP-446C.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Izhevsk MP-446C Viking - 9x19mm Parabellum]] | ||
[[File: | [[File:MP446C Viking.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Kalashnikov Concern MP-446C Viking - 9x19mm Parabellum]] | ||
=Discussion= | |||
==Cartridge== | |||
Hey, does this pistol use 9x18 or 9x19? I would think it uses the former due to it being a Russian weapon, but the article says otherwise. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 02:12, 23 July 2010 (UTC) | Hey, does this pistol use 9x18 or 9x19? I would think it uses the former due to it being a Russian weapon, but the article says otherwise. [[User:BeardedHoplite|BeardedHoplite]] 02:12, 23 July 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:Cartridge 9 x 18 is not suitable for military use, it's long been understood in Russia. PYa designed specifically for use by 9 x 19. Moreover, this cartridge with increased powder charge. This gun is gradually replacing the Army Makarov pistol (only in 2012 started mass production for Army). I once fired from this gun (it was a civil version of PYa - MP-446 Viking with polymer frame). I did not like. The feelings it looks like a brick with the trigger. Also I heard that the army and police are dissatisfied with this gun, and we have (in Russia) to build a plant the company Beretta. So perhaps that will soon be replaced by Yarygin PYa. Instead the Russian army will receive a Beretta pistol, but is not yet clear which one. Maybe this will be a model 92FS. I apologize for my bad English. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 22:51, 6 March 2011 (MSK) | :Cartridge 9 x 18 is not suitable for military use, it's long been understood in Russia. PYa designed specifically for use by 9 x 19. Moreover, this cartridge with increased powder charge. This gun is gradually replacing the Army Makarov pistol (only in 2012 started mass production for Army). I once fired from this gun (it was a civil version of PYa - MP-446 Viking with polymer frame). I did not like. The feelings it looks like a brick with the trigger. Also I heard that the army and police are dissatisfied with this gun, and we have (in Russia) to build a plant the company Beretta. So perhaps that will soon be replaced by Yarygin PYa. Instead the Russian army will receive a Beretta pistol, but is not yet clear which one. Maybe this will be a model 92FS. I apologize for my bad English. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 22:51, 6 March 2011 (MSK) | ||
== Yo page creators == | ==Yo page creators== | ||
How about giving us a short background to this gun? What country makes it? A lot of us have never heard of it. Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 10:01, 22 November 2009 (UTC) | How about giving us a short background to this gun? What country makes it? A lot of us have never heard of it. Thanks. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 10:01, 22 November 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Excuse me, what have you never heard of? About Russia? Oh, you have not lost much. This is a huge ice desert. There are evil Communists drink vodka straight from the teapot, and drunk bears go along the streets. All Russian people are members of the mafia. At the same time they are working for the KGB. There are only three last names in Russia : Pushkin, Gogol and Drago. And the first name is only one (for both men and women) - Ivan. KGB agents still hate America and they dream to occupy it and force Americans to pray on the posters of Lenin. Besides that, Russia has many nuclear bombs. That's all, probably… The rest can be seen, for example, in the new American movie Red Dawn 2. Good luck. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 22:51, 6 March 2011 (MSK) | :Excuse me, what have you never heard of? About Russia? Oh, you have not lost much. This is a huge ice desert. There are evil Communists drink vodka straight from the teapot, and drunk bears go along the streets. All Russian people are members of the mafia. At the same time they are working for the KGB. There are only three last names in Russia : Pushkin, Gogol and Drago. And the first name is only one (for both men and women) - Ivan. KGB agents still hate America and they dream to occupy it and force Americans to pray on the posters of Lenin. Besides that, Russia has many nuclear bombs. That's all, probably… The rest can be seen, for example, in the new American movie Red Dawn 2. Good luck. [[User:Flexo|Flexo]] 22:51, 6 March 2011 (MSK) | ||
== Russian Pistols by Izhmekh == | ==Russian Pistols by Izhmekh== | ||
I propose that main page gets called 'Izhmekh MP pistol series' and gets combined with [[MP-444 "Baghira"]] page. Not so sure about [[MP-412 REX]]. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 04:31, 17 October 2011 (CDT) | I propose that main page gets called 'Izhmekh MP pistol series' and gets combined with [[MP-444 "Baghira"]] page. Not so sure about [[MP-412 REX]]. --[[User:Masterius|Masterius]] 04:31, 17 October 2011 (CDT) | ||
== Mistake in Description == | ==Mistake in Description== | ||
The PMM was never adopted by the Russian Ground Forces, they had always been using the PM. [[User:OngYingGao|OngYingGao]] ([[User talk:OngYingGao|talk]]) 04:54, 18 March 2018 (EDT) | The PMM was never adopted by the Russian Ground Forces, they had always been using the PM. [[User:OngYingGao|OngYingGao]] ([[User talk:OngYingGao|talk]]) 04:54, 18 March 2018 (EDT) | ||
Latest revision as of 13:10, 28 September 2022
Additional Variants
Discussion
Cartridge
Hey, does this pistol use 9x18 or 9x19? I would think it uses the former due to it being a Russian weapon, but the article says otherwise. BeardedHoplite 02:12, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
- 9x19mm http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg50-e.htm --HashiriyaR32 15:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
- Cartridge 9 x 18 is not suitable for military use, it's long been understood in Russia. PYa designed specifically for use by 9 x 19. Moreover, this cartridge with increased powder charge. This gun is gradually replacing the Army Makarov pistol (only in 2012 started mass production for Army). I once fired from this gun (it was a civil version of PYa - MP-446 Viking with polymer frame). I did not like. The feelings it looks like a brick with the trigger. Also I heard that the army and police are dissatisfied with this gun, and we have (in Russia) to build a plant the company Beretta. So perhaps that will soon be replaced by Yarygin PYa. Instead the Russian army will receive a Beretta pistol, but is not yet clear which one. Maybe this will be a model 92FS. I apologize for my bad English. Flexo 22:51, 6 March 2011 (MSK)
Yo page creators
How about giving us a short background to this gun? What country makes it? A lot of us have never heard of it. Thanks. MoviePropMaster2008 10:01, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- Excuse me, what have you never heard of? About Russia? Oh, you have not lost much. This is a huge ice desert. There are evil Communists drink vodka straight from the teapot, and drunk bears go along the streets. All Russian people are members of the mafia. At the same time they are working for the KGB. There are only three last names in Russia : Pushkin, Gogol and Drago. And the first name is only one (for both men and women) - Ivan. KGB agents still hate America and they dream to occupy it and force Americans to pray on the posters of Lenin. Besides that, Russia has many nuclear bombs. That's all, probably… The rest can be seen, for example, in the new American movie Red Dawn 2. Good luck. Flexo 22:51, 6 March 2011 (MSK)
Russian Pistols by Izhmekh
I propose that main page gets called 'Izhmekh MP pistol series' and gets combined with MP-444 "Baghira" page. Not so sure about MP-412 REX. --Masterius 04:31, 17 October 2011 (CDT)
Mistake in Description
The PMM was never adopted by the Russian Ground Forces, they had always been using the PM. OngYingGao (talk) 04:54, 18 March 2018 (EDT)