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== Interesting story on the MP-155 Ultima == | == Interesting story on the MP-155 Ultima == | ||
[https://www.ign.com/articles/stolen-gun-kalashnikov-oceanic-mp-155-ultima-ward-b According to IGN], a game company named Ward B is accusing the Kalashnikov Concern of stealing the design of one of their fictional guns for the design of the MP-155 Ultima. Ward B, who are developing this game called Oceanic, was contacted by a "producer of industrial projects" for multiple companies, including Kalashnikov Concern, for their fictional EPM28 Mastodon shotgun to be made into a real gun kit for the MP-155. The discussions didn't result in a deal, but the appearance of the MP-155 Ultima convinced Ward B that Kalashnikov copied their design. --[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 21:15, 7 December 2021 (EST) | [https://www.ign.com/articles/stolen-gun-kalashnikov-oceanic-mp-155-ultima-ward-b According to IGN], a game company named Ward B is accusing the Kalashnikov Concern of stealing the design of one of their fictional guns for the design of the MP-155 Ultima. Ward B, who are developing this game called Oceanic, was contacted by a "producer of industrial projects" for multiple companies, including Kalashnikov Concern, for their fictional EPM28 Mastodon shotgun to be made into a real gun kit for the MP-155. The discussions didn't result in a deal, but the appearance of the MP-155 Ultima convinced Ward B that Kalashnikov copied their design. | ||
I would also like to use this opportunity to ask: why the fuck does the MP-155 Ultima even exist? Who is it designed for? --[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 21:15, 7 December 2021 (EST) | |||
:Yeah, I see [https://www.artstation.com/artwork/v1oq4E their point]. Obviously, Kalashnikov took inspiration from this thing but the key word here is "inspiration". Their design has enough differences to be considered non-infringing such as different trigger guard, different stock shape, different rear sight, handguard and so on. --[[User:Nanomat|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat|talk]]) 22:19, 7 December 2021 (EST) | |||
::That, my friend, is called "legally distinct differences", it's how Rockstar gets away with making the cars in GTA V look almost exactly the same as the real ones ''without'' getting sued. --[[User:Yocapo32|yocapo32]] ([[User talk:Yocapo32|talk]]) 01:18, 22 December 2021 (EST) | |||
:About your second question Wuzh, I think it's meant for competition and sporting usage. Not really too different from raced-out pistols, competition ARs, or those kitted-out Vepr shotguns. --[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 12:07, 22 December 2021 (EST) | |||
== About the claim that Baikal shotguns are clones of Remingtons == | |||
Sorry for the sudden question, I just suddenly got curious about where exactly it is coming from. Just can't find any info on this, would appreciate the help. [[User:Lunar Watcher|Lunar Watcher]] ([[User talk:Lunar Watcher|talk]]) 01:59, 30 June 2022 (EDT) | |||
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Now that's something you don't see everyday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQsp34zo6aE --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 15:49, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
Interesting story on the MP-155 Ultima
According to IGN, a game company named Ward B is accusing the Kalashnikov Concern of stealing the design of one of their fictional guns for the design of the MP-155 Ultima. Ward B, who are developing this game called Oceanic, was contacted by a "producer of industrial projects" for multiple companies, including Kalashnikov Concern, for their fictional EPM28 Mastodon shotgun to be made into a real gun kit for the MP-155. The discussions didn't result in a deal, but the appearance of the MP-155 Ultima convinced Ward B that Kalashnikov copied their design.
I would also like to use this opportunity to ask: why the fuck does the MP-155 Ultima even exist? Who is it designed for? --Wuzh (talk) 21:15, 7 December 2021 (EST)
- Yeah, I see their point. Obviously, Kalashnikov took inspiration from this thing but the key word here is "inspiration". Their design has enough differences to be considered non-infringing such as different trigger guard, different stock shape, different rear sight, handguard and so on. --Nanomat (talk) 22:19, 7 December 2021 (EST)
- About your second question Wuzh, I think it's meant for competition and sporting usage. Not really too different from raced-out pistols, competition ARs, or those kitted-out Vepr shotguns. --AgentGumby (talk) 12:07, 22 December 2021 (EST)
About the claim that Baikal shotguns are clones of Remingtons
Sorry for the sudden question, I just suddenly got curious about where exactly it is coming from. Just can't find any info on this, would appreciate the help. Lunar Watcher (talk) 01:59, 30 June 2022 (EDT)