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The last person put a comment about the PPSh being fake. I assume his statement is because it has a Soumi stick mag in it. When placing revisions members need to back up their claims in the discussion page for the film. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]] 16:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC) | The last person put a comment about the PPSh being fake. I assume his statement is because it has a Soumi stick mag in it. When placing revisions members need to back up their claims in the discussion page for the film. -[[User:Phoenixent|Phoenixent]] 16:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
That's not a Suomi mag, that's an MP-40 mag. It must be one of the ones the Germans converted to 9mm and reissued. - Nyles | |||
Excellent! As I understand, have already begun to make a film about how kind and good Germans with the British Army officers are fighting together against the evil Russian during the World War II? What's next? A movie about how damned russians choked gas Jews at Auschwitz and got rid the atomic bomb on Hiroshima? [[User:Slow Rider|Slow Rider]] 10:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
Although I do not think of the Germans in purely warm and fuzzy terms during WWII let's not kid ourselves about how the Russians behaved either. While the massacre in this movie, as far as I know, is fictional the massacre of Polish military officers and members of the Polish intelligentsia at the Katyn Forest and its' subsequent cover up by the Russians for almost half a century shows they were just as bad. In addition this movie is a work of fiction and given the less than stellar cast I would not take the message it conveys, if there even is one, remotely seriously.--[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 22:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
In my humble opinion such films provide young people a distorted view of history. You there, few people know that the Russian had lost 27 million people during the war. And even fewer know that Germany had 85% of their losses was on the Russian front. But most know about the only episode in the Katyn forest. All the best traditions of the Cold War ... | |||
My brief comment about the Katyn Forest: everyone knows about the crime in 1940 in which were killed 10 or 15 thousand Poles. But no one ever (I mean Poland and the entire West) do not remember about how the Poles killed in 1922, 20,000 Russian prisoners of war. Stalin simply had a good memory. Just as George W. Bush ... [[User:Slow Rider|Slow Rider]] 09:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
:I'm sorry but are you actually saying that the Poles, a good number of whom were not even military, that were butchered at Katyn deserved it as payback because Stalin (yeah there's a role model for the ages)remembered that the Poles did the same thing to the Russians as the Russians did to them in the conflict of 1919-1920? Seriously? --[[User:Charon68|Charon68]] 02:00, 25 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
::None. You misunderstood me. Possibly be to blame my bad English. Of course, I'm talking about the fact that Stalin was wrong. And that he committed the crime of killing the Poles (by the way, crimes against Russian people, he made a 1000 times greater). And Stalin did not justify the fact that the story of a bloody feud between the Polish and Russian dates back 17 or even 16 th century, and everyone blames each other. He should be far-sighted and does not make it to end this bloody chain first. But as I say that about their own crimes (not less disgusting) Poles prefer not to remember, and that the West is to be actively supported. You can see a dozen western movie about Katyn, but no truthful film about the participation of the Russian army during World War 2. And if these films are created, the only such crap like "Enemy at the Gates ". I have a feeling that the evil Russian all 4 years of war were shot poor Poles, and not fight against the Nazis. | |||
P.S. Oh yeah! I also forgot to mention that in fact Hitler was killed in a Paris cinema ... And my grandfather, probably at this time, did not fight against the "Tigers", and chased in their own home front for the British officers ... This is the new reality, isn't it? [[User:Slow Rider|Slow Rider]] 11:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 11:32, 25 January 2011
PPSh
The last person put a comment about the PPSh being fake. I assume his statement is because it has a Soumi stick mag in it. When placing revisions members need to back up their claims in the discussion page for the film. -Phoenixent 16:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
That's not a Suomi mag, that's an MP-40 mag. It must be one of the ones the Germans converted to 9mm and reissued. - Nyles
Excellent! As I understand, have already begun to make a film about how kind and good Germans with the British Army officers are fighting together against the evil Russian during the World War II? What's next? A movie about how damned russians choked gas Jews at Auschwitz and got rid the atomic bomb on Hiroshima? Slow Rider 10:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Although I do not think of the Germans in purely warm and fuzzy terms during WWII let's not kid ourselves about how the Russians behaved either. While the massacre in this movie, as far as I know, is fictional the massacre of Polish military officers and members of the Polish intelligentsia at the Katyn Forest and its' subsequent cover up by the Russians for almost half a century shows they were just as bad. In addition this movie is a work of fiction and given the less than stellar cast I would not take the message it conveys, if there even is one, remotely seriously.--Charon68 22:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
In my humble opinion such films provide young people a distorted view of history. You there, few people know that the Russian had lost 27 million people during the war. And even fewer know that Germany had 85% of their losses was on the Russian front. But most know about the only episode in the Katyn forest. All the best traditions of the Cold War ...
My brief comment about the Katyn Forest: everyone knows about the crime in 1940 in which were killed 10 or 15 thousand Poles. But no one ever (I mean Poland and the entire West) do not remember about how the Poles killed in 1922, 20,000 Russian prisoners of war. Stalin simply had a good memory. Just as George W. Bush ... Slow Rider 09:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but are you actually saying that the Poles, a good number of whom were not even military, that were butchered at Katyn deserved it as payback because Stalin (yeah there's a role model for the ages)remembered that the Poles did the same thing to the Russians as the Russians did to them in the conflict of 1919-1920? Seriously? --Charon68 02:00, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- None. You misunderstood me. Possibly be to blame my bad English. Of course, I'm talking about the fact that Stalin was wrong. And that he committed the crime of killing the Poles (by the way, crimes against Russian people, he made a 1000 times greater). And Stalin did not justify the fact that the story of a bloody feud between the Polish and Russian dates back 17 or even 16 th century, and everyone blames each other. He should be far-sighted and does not make it to end this bloody chain first. But as I say that about their own crimes (not less disgusting) Poles prefer not to remember, and that the West is to be actively supported. You can see a dozen western movie about Katyn, but no truthful film about the participation of the Russian army during World War 2. And if these films are created, the only such crap like "Enemy at the Gates ". I have a feeling that the evil Russian all 4 years of war were shot poor Poles, and not fight against the Nazis.
P.S. Oh yeah! I also forgot to mention that in fact Hitler was killed in a Paris cinema ... And my grandfather, probably at this time, did not fight against the "Tigers", and chased in their own home front for the British officers ... This is the new reality, isn't it? Slow Rider 11:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC)