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[[Talk:Main_Page]]'''''See [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_1]], [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_2]], [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_3]] [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_4]] [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_5]], [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_6]], [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_7]], [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_8]] or [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_9]] or [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_10]] for older discussions''''':  
'''''See [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 11]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 12]] for older discussions''''':  


=Happy New Year!=
==Happy 2023==
Say hello to 2021!--[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 03:07, 1 January 2021 (EST)
Happy New Year's to all. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 21:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
[[File:Scarface-m16c.jpg|thumb|none|801px|]]
:Cheers, everybody! Here's hoping that 2021 goes better than 2020. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 12:20, 1 January 2021 (EST)
::Same to you. Fingers crossed. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 01:30, 2 January 2021 (EST)
::Amen to that. --[[User:Dan San|Dan San]] ([[User talk:Dan San|talk]]) 13:29, 2 January 2021 (EST)


== Need help classifying something ==
== I guess, I made ID of Thark Rifle in John Carter movie ==


So, I've been working on a side-project for a while, and in the process, I've added a fair few new gun images to the site. Normally, I'd just put them on the appropriate gun page, or on the relevant category page if it doesn't have a page of its own. Problem, is, I just added this:
At the ''[[John Carter (2012)|John Carter]]'' movie, most Tharks (Green Martian clan) use Thark Martian rifles. Of course, it was futurised guns, but, after closing inspection of the original movie props, I notice, that's this futusistic rifles were made from [[Tanegashima]]s (of course, a modern replicas). For proving this guess, I made a photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. So, I guess, that's useful to ID the gun as Tanegashma. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 13:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
[[File:6P62.jpg|thumb|none|450px|6P62 - 12.7x108mm]]
[[Image:Thark rifle photoshop.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. The serpent for the match and closing powderbox (1), which is almost similar on the Tanegashima and Thark rifle. The pistol-grip buttstock (2) which is also almost similar. Of course, the movie prop is equipped with some part of other guns (percussion hammer) as well as some junks, to look more futuristic, as well, it's sawn in half, but the basing gun is Tanegashima.]]
This here is, as the caption suggests, a 6P62. It's a Russian prototype, it's chambered in 12.7x108mm, and it's full-auto. It was never meant for long-range use (you can't find an image of this thing online with a scope, and it'd probably beat one to death if you tried), so it can't go under Sniper Rifles; it's full-auto, so it can't go with the Semi-Auto Rifles, it fires a round too big to be an Assault Rifle, Battle Rifle, or Light Machine Gun, and it's a man-portable, non-fixed-mounted gun, so it can't be a Heavy Machine Gun either. Where should I put this thing? [[User:BrandonColeford1992|BrandonColeford1992]] ([[User talk:BrandonColeford1992|talk]]) 02:25, 5 January 2021 (EST)
:Miscellaneous section of the rifle category maybe?--[[User:Aidoru|Aidoru]] ([[User talk:Aidoru|talk]]) 02:39, 5 January 2021 (EST)
::It was originally intended as a "Ручной крупнокалиберный пулемёт 6П62" (Handheld Large-Caliber Machine Gun 6P62), so we can specify it as a machine gun [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 03:59, 5 January 2021 (EST)
:::At some point, I had a discussion with someone else here regarding this gun. It can go to the machine gun category. It seems to be rare case of a heavy machine gun that is actually man-portable. Sometimes it's also referred to as an anti-materiel rifle; if we choose this one, we can simply list it under the general "Rifles" category. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 07:20, 5 January 2021 (EST)
::::See, I don't really think we can put it in "Rifles", since there's no subcategory for full-auto rifles, and creating one would just result in a big mish-mash of all the assault rifles and select-fire battle rifles. I could get behind calling it an HMG, but I'd still call it a bit strange given that it's a gun one person can (ostensibly) pick up and fire. Maybe we could create a dedicated Anti-Materiel Rifle category? Sure, it would contain a bunch of guns that are already in the Sniper Rifle category, but then again, we have separate categories for Grenade Launchers and UBGLs, so it's not like it'd be unprecedented. Plus, this way we could remove the AT rifles from the Sniper Rifle category, since they really don't fit the bill. Oh, and speaking of AT, I have another discussion to write in. [[User:BrandonColeford1992|BrandonColeford1992]] ([[User talk:BrandonColeford1992|talk]]) 01:08, 6 January 2021 (EST)
::::: Then just put it in the machine gun category.--[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 00:07, 7 January 2021 (EST)
::::::Fair enough. Still think that the AMR category idea holds some water, though. [[User:BrandonColeford1992|BrandonColeford1992]] ([[User talk:BrandonColeford1992|talk]]) 01:20, 7 January 2021 (EST)


== Category Proposals ==
==Smiling Friends page?==
The western animation series Smiling Friends has quite a few realistically-drawn firearms which I documented on my sandbox [[User:Dnkakusei/Sandbox#Smiling_Friends_.5B2022-ongoing.2C_USA.5D|here]]. I would just like to know if the show qualifies for a page on this site. --[[User:Dnkakusei|Dnkakusei]] ([[User talk:Dnkakusei|talk]]) 13:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)


How about a category for films in the US National Film Registry? As iconic films, these are likely among the first articles a newcomer would check, and their cultural importance makes documenting them of particular note. Of lesser note, we have at least four films (''[[Operation Kid Brother]]'', ''[[Per Aspera Ad Astra (Cherez ternii k zvyozdam)|Per Aspera Ad Astra]]'', ''[[Diabolik]]'', ''[[Invasion USA (1952)|Invasion USA]]'') that have been featured on ''Mystery Science Theater 3000'', and there are many, many more films it featured that could have an article in the future. Should a category for one or both be added? --[[User:VladVladson|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson|talk]]) 00:21, 19 January 2021 (EST)
== Delete category backlog ==
:[[National Film Registry]]. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 01:22, 19 January 2021 (EST)


== Discord ==
Just want to holler at the mod/s just in case. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 07:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
: Got more screenshots from Detective Conan marked for deletion since Netflix Japan's able to get remastered episodes out and I'm slowly using them to update pages here. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 01:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
:: Got more stuff for deletion. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 06:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)


I've made one. Feel free to float any suggestions/improvements by me; if you're a moderator here, let me know on my talk page and I'll set you up as one there (should you so desire). Rules aren't that much of an issue; generally speaking, if it wouldn't fly here, it won't fly there.
== Blue Muzzle Flashes ==


So, if you so desire, [https://discord.gg/w2aRKyZmpJ hop on in.]
Something I have noticed with classic action films, mostly within the 80's era, is that a lot of muzzle flashes appear more blue than yellow. Did this have something to do with the type of blanks/props that were being used back then, or was this just a result of 1980's cinematography? --[[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 12:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)


Lemme know what you guys think - like I said, I'm open to suggestions. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 16:42, 21 January 2021 (EST)
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== To Catch A Predator page ==
== Monsters vs Aliens? ==
Would anyone be opposed to a page for To Catch A Predator with Chris Hansen? Strange idea but the show did feature a lot of firearms, mostly used by police, but also in the cars of some predators. ([[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 20:55, 24 January 2021 (EST))
[[File:To-Catch-a-Predator-300x300.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:Dtl predator scariest 070306.nbcnews-fp-1200-630.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
[[File:TCAP shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
:Before we begin, why don't you have a seat right over there? But, anyway, there's a rule against pages for documentaries on this site, but we'll have to see if an admin is okay on allowing a TCAP page.
:On another note, I do remember trying to identify the guns used on this show. The police mostly carried full-sized Glocks, one predator had a compact Glock of some sort found in his car, another one had what looks like a Mossberg 500 found in his car, a picture of which you included here. And then there was that guy who had several guns in his car (also seen here). I think it would be a cool page to have, but again, up to the admins. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 21:30, 24 January 2021 (EST)
:: Docs and reality-type shows and the like are unilaterally disallowed as far as I'm aware. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 21:47, 24 January 2021 (EST)
::: Would you guys be willing to consider this one? ([[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 15:17, 28 January 2021 (EST))
::::No, this would not be eligible. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:23, 29 January 2021 (EST)


== Grandpa Simpson's gun ==
Should we add a page about Monsters vs Aliens, the movie has some detailed guns like the M4 Carbine
I know we don't do pages for cartoons but I was watching The Simpsons, 'Who Shot Mr. Burns? Part 1' and there is a scene that depicts a fairly detailed revolver (as far as Simpsons animation goes) that looks like it might have been copied from an actual gun. While Bart helps Grandpa unpack, he opens a cigar box that contains an old revolver that Grandpa refers to as his "old Smith and Wesson".  Does this resemble any Smith & Wesson model?  
 
[[File:Simpsons S&W 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bart finds Grandpa's "old Smith & Wesson".]]
== Prodigal Son - Season 2, Unknown semi-auto pistol ==
[[File:Simpsons S&W 2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"If you're going to play with it, be careful, because it's loaded."]]
 
I believe have a positive ID on the "unknown" semi-auto pistol listed for Prodigal Son - Season 2.
 
I requested an account specifically to help with this ID but I don't understand how to correctly add this info
 
If someone could vet this and add it, I'd appreciate it!
 
Prodigal Son - S02E10, "Exit Strategy". At approx 34m:30s, Felix (spoiler: Clayton Fielder's twin) climbs a staircase while brandishing, then racking, a silver-tone semi-auto I identify as a TriStar P-120 (CZ75 clone). It's later seen several times from virtually every conceivable angle starting around 38:10.
 
:I checked it and I think you're right, so I did make all the necessary changes. By the way, don't forget to put your nickname and time in all discussions using 4 "~" at the end of each post. [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 15:30, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 
: Thank you!
 
Therealnecroscope, 06:35, 6 June 2023
 
(Testing nic/time)
[[User:Therealnecroscope|Therealnecroscope]] ([[User talk:Therealnecroscope|talk]]) 10:35, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 
==White M18 grenade==
Are white M18 smoke grenade only seen in TV/movies/games? Been seeing some of those. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 17:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
:I don't think they come in white IRL. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 
==Stunt/action choreography for a director's page==
On the page for stunt choreographer and two-time film director [[Kensuke Sonomura]], I've added a list of films and games that he contributed stunt direction and choreography to. I'm planning on fully adding these productions to his category, but I was told to ask an admin first because stunt coordination is a pretty niche credit, however I believe that these productions should be added to his category as stunt and action sequences are vital and important parts of these films and games. Is it safe to add the pages? --[[User:Dnkakusei|Dnkakusei]] ([[User talk:Dnkakusei|talk]]) 12:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 
==Firearm citations without screen grabs?==
I am new here, and I have not seen any guidelines about whether it's okay to cite a firearm in a movie listing without an associated screen grab. Is it better to have a weapon identified, even without a photo? ... or is it really better to make sure that each citation includes corresponding screen grabs? --[[User:226X5-9-TAC|226X5-9-TAC]] ([[User talk:226X5-9-TAC|talk]]) 23:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC).
:First off, welcome aboard. As for your question, if it's a pre-existing page, then pointing out a specific gun that doesn't already have a screencap is fine, as long as you're specific about when and where it appears (though having a screencap is always preferable). If it's for a page that doesn't exist yet, we'd prefer not - we have an excess of pages without screencaps as-is. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 23:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 
== Identifying revolver ==
 
What type of revolver is this? Film is from 1938. [[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 17:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 
[[File:L&HTroubles Revolver 1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
: Not really a detailed enough shot to tell much. Appears to be a mid-size, .38 or therabouts. Ejector rod looks rather long which makes me think it has a socket, which would make it a S&W. If so, likely a  Military & Police model. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 17:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 
==NCIS Sydney==
Should I wait until the episode/s airing in Australia in the last few weeks this month are accessible in Canada/US next month (January 2024) before screencapping, even though the show's backed by CBS and Paramount Plus? [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 10:05, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 
== Happy New Year! (2024) ==
 
Happy New Year to all IMFDB and may this year be prolific in page editing too!--[[User:Dannyguns|Dannyguns]] ([[User talk:Dannyguns|talk]]) 08:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 08:57, 1 January 2024

See Talk:Main Page/Archive 1, Talk:Main Page/Archive 2, Talk:Main Page/Archive 3, Talk:Main Page/Archive 4, Talk:Main Page/Archive 5, Talk:Main Page/Archive 6, Talk:Main Page/Archive 7, Talk:Main Page/Archive 8, Talk:Main Page/Archive 9, Talk:Main Page/Archive 10, Talk:Main Page/Archive 11, Talk:Main Page/Archive 12 for older discussions:

Happy 2023

Happy New Year's to all. --Ben41 (talk) 21:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

I guess, I made ID of Thark Rifle in John Carter movie

At the John Carter movie, most Tharks (Green Martian clan) use Thark Martian rifles. Of course, it was futurised guns, but, after closing inspection of the original movie props, I notice, that's this futusistic rifles were made from Tanegashimas (of course, a modern replicas). For proving this guess, I made a photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. So, I guess, that's useful to ID the gun as Tanegashma. Pyramid Silent (talk) 13:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

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A photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. The serpent for the match and closing powderbox (1), which is almost similar on the Tanegashima and Thark rifle. The pistol-grip buttstock (2) which is also almost similar. Of course, the movie prop is equipped with some part of other guns (percussion hammer) as well as some junks, to look more futuristic, as well, it's sawn in half, but the basing gun is Tanegashima.

Smiling Friends page?

The western animation series Smiling Friends has quite a few realistically-drawn firearms which I documented on my sandbox here. I would just like to know if the show qualifies for a page on this site. --Dnkakusei (talk) 13:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Delete category backlog

Just want to holler at the mod/s just in case. Ominae (talk) 07:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Got more screenshots from Detective Conan marked for deletion since Netflix Japan's able to get remastered episodes out and I'm slowly using them to update pages here. Ominae (talk) 01:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Got more stuff for deletion. Ominae (talk) 06:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Blue Muzzle Flashes

Something I have noticed with classic action films, mostly within the 80's era, is that a lot of muzzle flashes appear more blue than yellow. Did this have something to do with the type of blanks/props that were being used back then, or was this just a result of 1980's cinematography? --Theakker3 (talk) 12:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

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Monsters vs Aliens?

Should we add a page about Monsters vs Aliens, the movie has some detailed guns like the M4 Carbine

Prodigal Son - Season 2, Unknown semi-auto pistol

I believe have a positive ID on the "unknown" semi-auto pistol listed for Prodigal Son - Season 2.

I requested an account specifically to help with this ID but I don't understand how to correctly add this info

If someone could vet this and add it, I'd appreciate it!

Prodigal Son - S02E10, "Exit Strategy". At approx 34m:30s, Felix (spoiler: Clayton Fielder's twin) climbs a staircase while brandishing, then racking, a silver-tone semi-auto I identify as a TriStar P-120 (CZ75 clone). It's later seen several times from virtually every conceivable angle starting around 38:10.

I checked it and I think you're right, so I did make all the necessary changes. By the way, don't forget to put your nickname and time in all discussions using 4 "~" at the end of each post. Pustelga7 (talk) 15:30, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
Thank you!

Therealnecroscope, 06:35, 6 June 2023

(Testing nic/time) Therealnecroscope (talk) 10:35, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

White M18 grenade

Are white M18 smoke grenade only seen in TV/movies/games? Been seeing some of those. Ominae (talk) 17:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

I don't think they come in white IRL. --Funkychinaman (talk) 18:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Stunt/action choreography for a director's page

On the page for stunt choreographer and two-time film director Kensuke Sonomura, I've added a list of films and games that he contributed stunt direction and choreography to. I'm planning on fully adding these productions to his category, but I was told to ask an admin first because stunt coordination is a pretty niche credit, however I believe that these productions should be added to his category as stunt and action sequences are vital and important parts of these films and games. Is it safe to add the pages? --Dnkakusei (talk) 12:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Firearm citations without screen grabs?

I am new here, and I have not seen any guidelines about whether it's okay to cite a firearm in a movie listing without an associated screen grab. Is it better to have a weapon identified, even without a photo? ... or is it really better to make sure that each citation includes corresponding screen grabs? --226X5-9-TAC (talk) 23:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC).

First off, welcome aboard. As for your question, if it's a pre-existing page, then pointing out a specific gun that doesn't already have a screencap is fine, as long as you're specific about when and where it appears (though having a screencap is always preferable). If it's for a page that doesn't exist yet, we'd prefer not - we have an excess of pages without screencaps as-is. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 23:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Identifying revolver

What type of revolver is this? Film is from 1938. Theakker3 (talk) 17:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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Not really a detailed enough shot to tell much. Appears to be a mid-size, .38 or therabouts. Ejector rod looks rather long which makes me think it has a socket, which would make it a S&W. If so, likely a Military & Police model. StanTheMan (talk) 17:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

NCIS Sydney

Should I wait until the episode/s airing in Australia in the last few weeks this month are accessible in Canada/US next month (January 2024) before screencapping, even though the show's backed by CBS and Paramount Plus? Ominae (talk) 10:05, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy New Year! (2024)

Happy New Year to all IMFDB and may this year be prolific in page editing too!--Dannyguns (talk) 08:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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