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Now if you watch the "bar fight" scene in Desperado, it seems that while El Mariachi does reload, he fires off more then the combined 16 rounds those P90s should have. | Now if you watch the "bar fight" scene in Desperado, it seems that while El Mariachi does reload, he fires off more then the combined 16 rounds those P90s should have. | ||
::Yeah, this movie isn't exactly know for its firearms accuracy. He reloads when it looks cool, not when he actually runs out of bullets. You'll note the weapons are not locked back in one scene and then are when he reloads in the next. And what, firing 6 shots from a 2 barreled shotgun isn't a little | ::Yeah, this movie isn't exactly know for its firearms accuracy. He reloads when it looks cool, not when he actually runs out of bullets. You'll note the weapons are not locked back in one scene and then are when he reloads in the next. And what, firing 6 shots from a 2 barreled shotgun isn't a little inaccurate as well? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | ||
:::Indeed it's not very accurate. I always thought he was using P89s, as they had much larger 15-round magazines. But yeah, like you said, he only reloads when it looks good. | |||
::::Firing more shots then actually in the magazine is nothing - he also fires the Rugers several times after the slide locks back and the gun is "empty". But hey, movie magic, right? - [[User:Sentient6|Sentient6]] 20:29, 14 February 2011 (UTC) | |||
I never understand why people try to identify the gun based on how many rounds are fired. The average movie going public aren't going to notice the gun has fired off too many rounds and the film makers think it looks cool to have them firing loads of rounds off and never reloading. It's like in Commando, how many rounds does Arnie fire from that M60 at the end without reloading. I love realism when it comes to films especially to do with firearms but you cannot identify a gun from a film based on how many rounds they fire from it. I believe in one of the Dirty Harry films Clint fires about 9 rounds from his magnum without reloading (on screen at least). --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 06:12, 8 April 2011 (CDT) | |||
== Moved from the Main Page == | |||
*"El Mariachi fires his Rossi Overland Sawed Off Shotgun, eyes closed." | |||
*"Bucho, like most men in Desperado, shoots with his eyes closed." | |||
I figured I would move these off of the main page in case anyone who worked on the film were to look at the page, and not feel insulted by seeing such sarcasm. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 03:22, 16 March 2011 (CDT) | |||
== Codpiece Revolver == | |||
If you look closely at pictures of the codpiece revolvers from this movie and From Dusk 'til Dawn, you can tell that they are entirely different set ups. Not only are the leather plates different but the actual weapons are different. In Desperado, not only are the cylinders different but the barrel is thicker, not rounded at the tip like the one in Dusk 'til Dawn, and has a larger bore. Also, how do those things load? Obviously the cylinders are used to complete the phallic effect but there doesn't seem to be a way to get the rounds to the barrel --[[User:Westernman1987|Westernman1987]] 23:43, 29 May 2011 (CDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 04:43, 30 May 2011
I took some extra screenshots for the page. I'll have them on here tommorow.
- How's the page look now, a little more complete?
It looks excellent, Great work.--Alienqueen11 21:16, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Suppressed revolvers...
There are actually suppressed and suppressable revolvers.
Three primary means:
1) Using a "gas check" design like the Nagant revolver that cams the cylinder forward to seal the breach between cylinder (actually, shell casing) and the barrel. (This would also require a muzzle mounted suppressor.)
See: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=vvF4yurWSc0
2) Using an expandable casing or "bladder" that contains the propellant gases. This would use a subsonic bullet.
3) Use an expandable casing that extends forward to cover the gap.
See: http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=64397
The advantages of all these designs is the control of the casings (none left behind), the ability to use rounds of various power while having repeating fire, and the limitations on releasing gun residue.
- Fine, some can be suppressed but the conventional revolvers used like S&W M15 and Colt Pythons aren't built to be suppressed, and don't do it well.
Ruger P90s
Am I the only one who thinks El Mariachi is firing off too many rounds from his Rugers before reloading?
To start, the Ruger P90 in .45 ACP is only sold with an 8-round magazine.
Now if you watch the "bar fight" scene in Desperado, it seems that while El Mariachi does reload, he fires off more then the combined 16 rounds those P90s should have.
- Yeah, this movie isn't exactly know for its firearms accuracy. He reloads when it looks cool, not when he actually runs out of bullets. You'll note the weapons are not locked back in one scene and then are when he reloads in the next. And what, firing 6 shots from a 2 barreled shotgun isn't a little inaccurate as well? - Gunmaster45
- Indeed it's not very accurate. I always thought he was using P89s, as they had much larger 15-round magazines. But yeah, like you said, he only reloads when it looks good.
- Firing more shots then actually in the magazine is nothing - he also fires the Rugers several times after the slide locks back and the gun is "empty". But hey, movie magic, right? - Sentient6 20:29, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Indeed it's not very accurate. I always thought he was using P89s, as they had much larger 15-round magazines. But yeah, like you said, he only reloads when it looks good.
- Yeah, this movie isn't exactly know for its firearms accuracy. He reloads when it looks cool, not when he actually runs out of bullets. You'll note the weapons are not locked back in one scene and then are when he reloads in the next. And what, firing 6 shots from a 2 barreled shotgun isn't a little inaccurate as well? - Gunmaster45
I never understand why people try to identify the gun based on how many rounds are fired. The average movie going public aren't going to notice the gun has fired off too many rounds and the film makers think it looks cool to have them firing loads of rounds off and never reloading. It's like in Commando, how many rounds does Arnie fire from that M60 at the end without reloading. I love realism when it comes to films especially to do with firearms but you cannot identify a gun from a film based on how many rounds they fire from it. I believe in one of the Dirty Harry films Clint fires about 9 rounds from his magnum without reloading (on screen at least). --cool-breeze 06:12, 8 April 2011 (CDT)
Moved from the Main Page
- "El Mariachi fires his Rossi Overland Sawed Off Shotgun, eyes closed."
- "Bucho, like most men in Desperado, shoots with his eyes closed."
I figured I would move these off of the main page in case anyone who worked on the film were to look at the page, and not feel insulted by seeing such sarcasm. --ThatoneguyJosh 03:22, 16 March 2011 (CDT)
Codpiece Revolver
If you look closely at pictures of the codpiece revolvers from this movie and From Dusk 'til Dawn, you can tell that they are entirely different set ups. Not only are the leather plates different but the actual weapons are different. In Desperado, not only are the cylinders different but the barrel is thicker, not rounded at the tip like the one in Dusk 'til Dawn, and has a larger bore. Also, how do those things load? Obviously the cylinders are used to complete the phallic effect but there doesn't seem to be a way to get the rounds to the barrel --Westernman1987 23:43, 29 May 2011 (CDT)