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=Getting started=
=Concept art guns=
==Desert Eagle Mark XIX==
[[Image:DesertEagle50AE.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Magnum Research Desert Eagle Mark XIX with brushed chrome finish - .50 AE]]
[[File:The Last of Us Part II deagle.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
 
==AK type rifle==
[[File:The Last of Us Part II ak.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
 
==Unknown AR-15 variant==
[[File:The Last of Us Part II ar15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
 
=Discussion=
==Getting started==
So far confirmed weapons are the Beretta, a revolver, M870, Remington 700, and bow. I'm not 100% on the revolver ID as we have no gameplay with it, but I think it's supposed to be the same revolver from the first game (I'm assuming anyway). No good shots of the Remington 870 either. All the stuff I have is official screenshots and screenshots from gameplay demos. I'll add more once the game comes out. I'm also going to wager this game, like many current generation titles, will have a photo mode that will come in handy. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 00:43, 14 June 2020 (EDT)
So far confirmed weapons are the Beretta, a revolver, M870, Remington 700, and bow. I'm not 100% on the revolver ID as we have no gameplay with it, but I think it's supposed to be the same revolver from the first game (I'm assuming anyway). No good shots of the Remington 870 either. All the stuff I have is official screenshots and screenshots from gameplay demos. I'll add more once the game comes out. I'm also going to wager this game, like many current generation titles, will have a photo mode that will come in handy. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 00:43, 14 June 2020 (EDT)


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:Yeah, I was wondering about the gun's rear end and now that you mentioned it, it looks like an MP5 rear. But the handguard is not something I've seen being used on MP5s so maybe a hybrid? I guess we'll need to wait for a better image. BTW here is a [https://gamewith.net/the-last-of-us-2/article/show/19491 somewhat clearer pic], it doesn't look like anything I've seen. --[[User:Nanomat|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat|talk]]) 12:21, 29 June 2020 (EDT)
:Yeah, I was wondering about the gun's rear end and now that you mentioned it, it looks like an MP5 rear. But the handguard is not something I've seen being used on MP5s so maybe a hybrid? I guess we'll need to wait for a better image. BTW here is a [https://gamewith.net/the-last-of-us-2/article/show/19491 somewhat clearer pic], it doesn't look like anything I've seen. --[[User:Nanomat|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat|talk]]) 12:21, 29 June 2020 (EDT)
::[http://i.ytimg.com/vi/23VAywQpUQM/maxresdefault.jpg Here.] While the rear looks like an MP5, most of the remaining parts are clearly those of an MPX. Note the overall shape, magwell, ambi bolt catch, ejection port, and cutout behind it for the telescoping stock. Some parts have been fictionalized, such as the handguard, and the charging handle is depicted on the ejection port rather than the rear of the weapon (resulting in the stock's cutout being shortened). I'll help with other details needed regarding the MPX when we get detailed screenshots of the in-game gun. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 13:47, 29 June 2020 (EDT)
::[http://i.ytimg.com/vi/23VAywQpUQM/maxresdefault.jpg Here.] While the rear looks like an MP5, most of the remaining parts are clearly those of an MPX. Note the overall shape, magwell, ambi bolt catch, ejection port, and cutout behind it for the telescoping stock. Some parts have been fictionalized, such as the handguard, and the charging handle is depicted on the ejection port rather than the rear of the weapon (resulting in the stock's cutout being shortened). I'll help with other details needed regarding the MPX when we get detailed screenshots of the in-game gun. --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 13:47, 29 June 2020 (EDT)
:::Yep, I think it is meant to emulate the [https://forum.escapefromtarkov.com/topic/18667-screenshots-of-the-sig-mpx-submachine-gun/ one from Tarkov] which itself appears to be based on this [https://www.recoilweb.com/preview-sig-sauer-mpx-next-gen-sub-gun-73315.html one here] but I guess you Ninja have more expertise on the MPX. --[[User:Nanomat|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat|talk]]) 14:26, 29 June 2020 (EDT)
:::Yep, I think it is meant to emulate the [https://forum.escapefromtarkov.com/topic/18667-screenshots-of-the-sig-mpx-submachine-gun/ one from Tarkov] which itself appears to be based on this [https://www.recoilweb.com/preview-sig-sauer-mpx-next-gen-sub-gun-73315.html one here] but I guess you Ninja have more expertise on the MPX. --[[User:Nanomat|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat|talk]]) 14:26, 29 June 2020 (EDT)
::::I vote +1 for MPX. As you've probably noticed, many weapons in this game are not modeled 100% after the real thing and I'm mostly IDing guns based on what they most closely resemble. I haven't progressed far enough into the story to get my hands on the SMG but what I see here reminds me mostly of the MPX rather than an MP5. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 14:56, 29 June 2020 (EDT)
==O/U Shotgun==
It looks more like a Stoeger Condor Outback to me. https://www.stoegerindustries.com/sites/default/files/styles/model_hover_large/public/originals/product-firearms/condor-outback-shotgun_0.png?itok=aQ6gBw2X The blued frame, the cut out on the top of the fore-arm, short barrels and all just look closer to an Outback. [[User:Black Irish Paddy|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy|talk]]) 09:47, 8 July 2020 (EDT)
== Dina's Rifle ==
What does this rifle look like to you guys?
[[File:TLOUPartIIDinaRifle.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|]]
I mentioned above it reminds me of a Ruger PC Carbine scaled up and with wooden furniture. The magazine reminds me of the one used on the [[Kbsp wz. 38M]]. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 14:39, 11 July 2020 (EDT)
:I don't know where Ruger can be seen here. Looks like some kind of freak BAR Safari/Remington Model 8, if I were to guess. The release of the magazine is clearly from AK. And in general, something strange is happening to the receiver. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 15:23, 11 July 2020 (EDT)
The entire thing looks indeed like a "legally pristine" attempt at the Kbsp wz. 38M though the handguard might be recycled from Jesse's Marlin? --[[User:Nanomat|Nanomat]] ([[User talk:Nanomat|talk]]) 19:24, 11 July 2020 (EDT)
:Indeed, it is ''frighteningly'' similar. Who knows what they were thinking? --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 08:22, 13 July 2020 (EDT)
My first thought was an FN FNAR. It has similar lines and the same charging handle slot in the receiver, just the lack of a magazine well. --[[User:Fisto RLTW|Fisto RLTW]] ([[User talk:Fisto RLTW|talk]]) 20:47, 14 July 2020 (EDT)
I remembered where I saw it. Do not ask, what the heck: [https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-zen_doc/1591494/pub_5de66cde92414d00b1cb3714_5de66e18aad43600b1def8ca/scale_1200]. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 18:57, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
Anyway, I believe this is directly based on all those rare MTs/IZh rifles. Another example is MC-551: [https://shotguncollector.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/d0bcd186551-d181d0bfd180d0b0d0b2d0b0.jpg?w=1024&h=247], [https://shotguncollector.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/1-001-5.jpg?w=743&h=317]. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 18:27, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
:That looks like it could be it! However, what are the chances of coming across one of those in the United States? [[User:Fisto RLTW|Fisto RLTW]] ([[User talk:Fisto RLTW|talk]]) 19:30, 17 August 2020 (EDT)
==Hybrid DA/SA pistol==
Abby briefly uses this handgun during the theater confrontation, and I believe it is seen in the holsters of some NPCs as well. To me it looks like a cross between a Ruger P94 and a SIG P226R.
What do you guys think? --[[User:Fisto RLTW|Fisto RLTW]] ([[User talk:Fisto RLTW|talk]]) 21:36, 14 July 2020 (EDT)
[[File:TLOUPartIIHybridDAPistol1.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[File:TLOUPartIIHybridDAPistol2.jpeg|thumb|none|600px|]]
:I can definitely see the Ruger and P226 influence, though it also gives me Beretta Cougar vibes for whatever reason. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 23:44, 14 July 2020 (EDT) P.S.: By the way, it's "SIG", not "Sig", since it's an acronym for "Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft".
Fixed. It's like Naughty Dog can't decide on what gun to use so they just blend elements of different ones together! --[[User:Fisto RLTW|Fisto RLTW]] ([[User talk:Fisto RLTW|talk]]) 23:52, 14 July 2020 (EDT)
:Good catch, I thought Abby was just using another "Military Pistol" in this section- there weren't any combat encounters, so I didn't look at her weapons too hard. I love Naughty Dog games, especially the ''Uncharted'' series, but they've never been particularly big on accurately modeling or animating guns, or picking weapon selections that make sense for that matter. Just look at the pages we have here for the ''[[Uncharted]]'' series and you'll see. ''[[Uncharted 4]]'' was pretty bad with the weird hybrid guns. --[[User:PyramidHead|PyramidHead]] ([[User talk:PyramidHead|talk]]) 19:39, 17 July 2020 (EDT)
== Ellie's revolver  ==
Having been editing ''The Last of Us'' recently with the ''Part I'' edition just reminded me of The Last of Us Part II Extended Commercial where Ellie is seen holding a Smith & Wesson Model 10HB or Model 13 near the end of the video. If anyone would like to post the picture that would be cool. This gun makes a cameo in the prologue of ''The Last of Us Part I'' remake Joel and Tommy wield. Since this gun is only featured in this video, does it belong on the main page? What do you think? - MrJDK9412 (talk 02:50 3 September 2022 (AEST)

Latest revision as of 22:40, 24 August 2023

Concept art guns

Desert Eagle Mark XIX

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Magnum Research Desert Eagle Mark XIX with brushed chrome finish - .50 AE
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AK type rifle

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Unknown AR-15 variant

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Discussion

Getting started

So far confirmed weapons are the Beretta, a revolver, M870, Remington 700, and bow. I'm not 100% on the revolver ID as we have no gameplay with it, but I think it's supposed to be the same revolver from the first game (I'm assuming anyway). No good shots of the Remington 870 either. All the stuff I have is official screenshots and screenshots from gameplay demos. I'll add more once the game comes out. I'm also going to wager this game, like many current generation titles, will have a photo mode that will come in handy. --PyramidHead (talk) 00:43, 14 June 2020 (EDT)

Jessie's Rifle

I believe Jessie's Rifle is a Marlin Lever Action Rifle though I may be mistaken can anyone confirm?--Balin21 (talk) 10:17, 26 June 2020 (EDT)

Haven't had a good luck at it, but it looks like a Marlin 1895. Also Dina's rifle is weird- for some reason it reminds me of a Ruger PC Carbine with wood furniture and a large caliber magazine. --PyramidHead (talk) 18:39, 27 June 2020 (EDT)

Silenced SMG

Nanomat said in his edit summary that it looked like an MPX, but I'm pretty sure it's an MP5.

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Spartan198 (talk) 01:00, 29 June 2020 (EDT)

Yeah, I was wondering about the gun's rear end and now that you mentioned it, it looks like an MP5 rear. But the handguard is not something I've seen being used on MP5s so maybe a hybrid? I guess we'll need to wait for a better image. BTW here is a somewhat clearer pic, it doesn't look like anything I've seen. --Nanomat (talk) 12:21, 29 June 2020 (EDT)
Here. While the rear looks like an MP5, most of the remaining parts are clearly those of an MPX. Note the overall shape, magwell, ambi bolt catch, ejection port, and cutout behind it for the telescoping stock. Some parts have been fictionalized, such as the handguard, and the charging handle is depicted on the ejection port rather than the rear of the weapon (resulting in the stock's cutout being shortened). I'll help with other details needed regarding the MPX when we get detailed screenshots of the in-game gun. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 13:47, 29 June 2020 (EDT)
Yep, I think it is meant to emulate the one from Tarkov which itself appears to be based on this one here but I guess you Ninja have more expertise on the MPX. --Nanomat (talk) 14:26, 29 June 2020 (EDT)
I vote +1 for MPX. As you've probably noticed, many weapons in this game are not modeled 100% after the real thing and I'm mostly IDing guns based on what they most closely resemble. I haven't progressed far enough into the story to get my hands on the SMG but what I see here reminds me mostly of the MPX rather than an MP5. --PyramidHead (talk) 14:56, 29 June 2020 (EDT)

O/U Shotgun

It looks more like a Stoeger Condor Outback to me. https://www.stoegerindustries.com/sites/default/files/styles/model_hover_large/public/originals/product-firearms/condor-outback-shotgun_0.png?itok=aQ6gBw2X The blued frame, the cut out on the top of the fore-arm, short barrels and all just look closer to an Outback. Black Irish Paddy (talk) 09:47, 8 July 2020 (EDT)

Dina's Rifle

What does this rifle look like to you guys?

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I mentioned above it reminds me of a Ruger PC Carbine scaled up and with wooden furniture. The magazine reminds me of the one used on the Kbsp wz. 38M. --PyramidHead (talk) 14:39, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

I don't know where Ruger can be seen here. Looks like some kind of freak BAR Safari/Remington Model 8, if I were to guess. The release of the magazine is clearly from AK. And in general, something strange is happening to the receiver. --Slon95 (talk) 15:23, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

The entire thing looks indeed like a "legally pristine" attempt at the Kbsp wz. 38M though the handguard might be recycled from Jesse's Marlin? --Nanomat (talk) 19:24, 11 July 2020 (EDT)

Indeed, it is frighteningly similar. Who knows what they were thinking? --Slon95 (talk) 08:22, 13 July 2020 (EDT)

My first thought was an FN FNAR. It has similar lines and the same charging handle slot in the receiver, just the lack of a magazine well. --Fisto RLTW (talk) 20:47, 14 July 2020 (EDT)

I remembered where I saw it. Do not ask, what the heck: [1]. --Slon95 (talk) 18:57, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

Anyway, I believe this is directly based on all those rare MTs/IZh rifles. Another example is MC-551: [2], [3]. --Slon95 (talk) 18:27, 3 August 2020 (EDT)

That looks like it could be it! However, what are the chances of coming across one of those in the United States? Fisto RLTW (talk) 19:30, 17 August 2020 (EDT)

Hybrid DA/SA pistol

Abby briefly uses this handgun during the theater confrontation, and I believe it is seen in the holsters of some NPCs as well. To me it looks like a cross between a Ruger P94 and a SIG P226R.

What do you guys think? --Fisto RLTW (talk) 21:36, 14 July 2020 (EDT)

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I can definitely see the Ruger and P226 influence, though it also gives me Beretta Cougar vibes for whatever reason. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 23:44, 14 July 2020 (EDT) P.S.: By the way, it's "SIG", not "Sig", since it's an acronym for "Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft".

Fixed. It's like Naughty Dog can't decide on what gun to use so they just blend elements of different ones together! --Fisto RLTW (talk) 23:52, 14 July 2020 (EDT)

Good catch, I thought Abby was just using another "Military Pistol" in this section- there weren't any combat encounters, so I didn't look at her weapons too hard. I love Naughty Dog games, especially the Uncharted series, but they've never been particularly big on accurately modeling or animating guns, or picking weapon selections that make sense for that matter. Just look at the pages we have here for the Uncharted series and you'll see. Uncharted 4 was pretty bad with the weird hybrid guns. --PyramidHead (talk) 19:39, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

Ellie's revolver

Having been editing The Last of Us recently with the Part I edition just reminded me of The Last of Us Part II Extended Commercial where Ellie is seen holding a Smith & Wesson Model 10HB or Model 13 near the end of the video. If anyone would like to post the picture that would be cool. This gun makes a cameo in the prologue of The Last of Us Part I remake Joel and Tommy wield. Since this gun is only featured in this video, does it belong on the main page? What do you think? - MrJDK9412 (talk 02:50 3 September 2022 (AEST)