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F-4, so it's an [[M61 Vulcan]]. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:25, 27 December 2019 (EST) | F-4, so it's an [[M61 Vulcan]]. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:25, 27 December 2019 (EST) | ||
:I would also add that the AA gun on three first screenshots in S-60 AA cannon section is too large for 57mm gun and has a different muzzle brake. The barrel looks similar to a [[85mm Air Defense Gun M1939 (52-K)]] but other parts are drawn not very correct. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 14:35, 27 December 2019 (EST) | |||
==M240 Machine Gun== | |||
Twin [[M240 Machine Gun]] is seen mounted on the Shin's combat plane. | |||
[[Image:M240d.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M240D vehicle and aircraft-mount version with spade grips - 7.62x51mm NATO.]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 01 machine gun 2 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shin's machine gun...]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 01 machine gun 2 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...is fired at the "Sky Blue - Desert Wings" (Ep. 01).]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 01 machine gun 2 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The another view of the Shin's weapon at the same episode.]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 02 machine gun 2 4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good view of the Shin's machine gun at the "Boris - Tombstone of the Setting Sun" (Ep. 02).]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 03 machine gun 2 5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shin shot down enemy combat plane at the "Shin & Makoto - Finder of a Blue Sky" (Ep. 03).]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 03 machine gun 2 6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shin's combat plane is seen at the a few seconds later.]] | |||
I don't know where you're getting these IDs. F-8, so also a Colt Mk 12. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:47, 27 December 2019 (EST) | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 05 machine gun 10 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shin (for what ever reasons, his combat plane changes it's color to green) fires the machine gun during the battle at the "Lip Stick - Unyielding Rouge" (Ep. 05).]] | |||
Because it's a different plane, with different guns. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:06, 27 December 2019 (EST) | |||
==Parabellum MG14== | |||
Rebel's combat planes is equipped with the [[Parabellum MG14]] machine guns. | |||
[[Image:Parabellum-mg14.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Parabellum MG14 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 01 oppenning 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebel aims...]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 01 oppenning 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...and fires...]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 01 oppenning 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...the machine gun during the oppening of the "Sky Blue - Desert Wings" (Ep. 01).]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 01 machine gun 1 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebel's combat plane...]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 01 machine gun 1 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...is seen blasting the machine gun at the "Sky Blue - Desert Wings" (Ep. 01).]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 01 machine gun 3 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another rebel fires the machine gun at the same episode.]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 03 machine gun 6 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebel's combat plane in action...]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 03 machine gun 6 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...during the battle at the "Shin & Makoto - Finder of a Blue Sky" (Ep. 03).]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 05 machine gun 6 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebel attacks mercenaries at the "Lip Stick - Unyielding Rouge" (Ep. 05).]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 05 machine gun 6 4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close view of the same scene.]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 05 machine gun 6 5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The view of the same guns from the other side.]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 03 machine gun 2 5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shin shot down enemy combat plane at the "Shin & Makoto - Finder of a Blue Sky" (Ep. 03).]] | |||
This is a MiG-17, so the armament is two NR-23 cannons and an N-37 cannon. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:47, 27 December 2019 (EST) | |||
==Parabellum MG17== | |||
Several reabel's combat planes is seen with the mounted [[Parabellum MG17]] machine guns. | |||
[[Image:Parabellum MG17.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Parabellum MG17 aircraft machine Gun - 7.92 x 57mm]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 04 machine gun 7 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebel blastes the machine gun at the "Desert - Skies of Betrayal" (Ep. 04).]] | |||
==GSh-30-1== | |||
Numerous rebel's combat planes is seenequipped with the [[GSh-30-1]] machine guns. | |||
[[Image:GSH30 1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-1 with ammo belt - 30x165mm]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 04 machine gun 8 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Machine gun which is seen at the bottom is...]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 04 machine gun 8 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...is fires at the "Desert - Skies of Betrayal" (Ep. 04).]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 04 machine gun 8 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up...]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 04 machine gun 8 4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...of the firing machine gun at the same episode.]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 07 machine gun 6 6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebel a second before using his weapons at the "Hungry Boy - Sweet Soldier" (Ep. 07).]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 09 machine gun 8 5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Machine gun...]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 09 machine gun 8 6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|...is seen in action at the "Canyon - Tightrope at the Speed of Sound" (Ep. 09).]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 11 machine gun 8 7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebel fires the machine gun at the "Truth - Truth of the Sand" (Ep. 11).]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 11 machine gun 8 8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another rebel (at the background) pursing Shin at the same episode.]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 07 machine gun 6 7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rebel fires the machine gun at the "Hungry Boy - Sweet Soldier" (Ep. 07).]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 07 machine gun 6 8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another rebels uses their armament at the same episode.]] | |||
These are MiG-21s, so GSh-23s. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:47, 27 December 2019 (EST) | |||
== Removed == | |||
Navy F-4s didn't have internal guns or carry gun pods. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:53, 27 December 2019 (EST) | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 10 machine gun 16 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|During the prologue from Vietnam War, the M61 Vulcan is seen mounted on the F-4, operated by the Patrick Reed at the at the "Fire Ball - Contrails of Destiny" (Ep. 10).]] | |||
==General Dynamics GAU-17/A== | |||
Both Kitori and Shin uses [[General Dynamics GAU-17/A]] machine guns, mounted on their combat plane. | |||
[[File:Osprey RCWS machine gun and camera.jpg|thumb|none|400px|GAU-17/A mounted in Osprey V-22 VTOL fuselage via Remote Guardian System - 7.62x51mm NATO.]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 07 machine gun 11 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The airbase crew loaded Shin's machine gun at the "Hungry Boy - Sweet Soldier" (Ep. 07).]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 07 machine gun 11 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A more close view of the same scene.]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 07 machine gun 11 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Shin's six-barreled machine gun is partly seen a few minutes later.]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 07 machine gun 11 4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kitori fires a few seconds later.]] | |||
[[Image:Area 88 Ep 09 machine gun 15 1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Kitori's armament in action at the "Canyon - Tightrope at the Speed of Sound" (Ep. 09).]] | |||
These appear to be different gun pods, as one is single-barreled while others are multi-barrelled. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 00:30, 2 January 2020 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 05:30, 2 January 2020
The aircraft armament is all wrong. It's going to take some time to sort through this. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:13, 27 December 2019 (EST)
Shipunov 2A42
The Shipunov 2A42 is mounted on the Greg Gates' combat plane.
The A-4 Skyhawk uses either the Colt Mk 12 cannon or ADEN cannon. It depends on the variant or operator. Many air forces didn't want the Colt Mk 12. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:25, 27 December 2019 (EST)
Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30K
The combat palne of the female mercenary Kitori Palvanaff was equipped with the Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30K. Japanese mercenary, named Shin Kazama also uses the similar machine gun on his combat plane.
This a Mirage F1, so it's a DEFA cannon. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:25, 27 December 2019 (EST)
This appears to be an F-5/F-20, so it's a Pontiac M39. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:25, 27 December 2019 (EST)
Browning M2
Several mercenaries, include Kim Aba uses combat planes, which is equipped with the Browning M2 machine guns.
These are Harriers. It's hard to tell the variant, but it's either an ADEN or General Dynamics GAU-12/U. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:25, 27 December 2019 (EST)
Breda-SAFAT machine gun
The Breda-SAFAT machine gun is mounted on the combat plane of the American mercenary, named Mickey Simon.
This appears to be an F-14, so M61 Vulcan. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:25, 27 December 2019 (EST)
General Dynamics M197 Vulcan
During the prologue from Vietnam War, the General Dynamics M197 Vulcan is used by the Patrick Reed at the at the "Fire Ball - Contrails of Destiny" (Ep. 10).
F-4, so it's an M61 Vulcan. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:25, 27 December 2019 (EST)
- I would also add that the AA gun on three first screenshots in S-60 AA cannon section is too large for 57mm gun and has a different muzzle brake. The barrel looks similar to a 85mm Air Defense Gun M1939 (52-K) but other parts are drawn not very correct. --Greg-Z (talk) 14:35, 27 December 2019 (EST)
M240 Machine Gun
Twin M240 Machine Gun is seen mounted on the Shin's combat plane.
I don't know where you're getting these IDs. F-8, so also a Colt Mk 12. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:47, 27 December 2019 (EST)
Because it's a different plane, with different guns. --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:06, 27 December 2019 (EST)
Parabellum MG14
Rebel's combat planes is equipped with the Parabellum MG14 machine guns.
This is a MiG-17, so the armament is two NR-23 cannons and an N-37 cannon. --Funkychinaman (talk) 20:47, 27 December 2019 (EST)
Parabellum MG17
Several reabel's combat planes is seen with the mounted Parabellum MG17 machine guns.
GSh-30-1
Numerous rebel's combat planes is seenequipped with the GSh-30-1 machine guns.
These are MiG-21s, so GSh-23s. --Funkychinaman (talk) 20:47, 27 December 2019 (EST)
Removed
Navy F-4s didn't have internal guns or carry gun pods. --Funkychinaman (talk) 20:53, 27 December 2019 (EST)
General Dynamics GAU-17/A
Both Kitori and Shin uses General Dynamics GAU-17/A machine guns, mounted on their combat plane.
These appear to be different gun pods, as one is single-barreled while others are multi-barrelled. --Funkychinaman (talk) 00:30, 2 January 2020 (EST)