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::The game is set a few years after the orignal 1948 I think. - [[User:Domj29|Domj29]] 01:49, 12 June 2009 (UTC) | ::The game is set a few years after the orignal 1948 I think. - [[User:Domj29|Domj29]] 01:49, 12 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::Also, Why is there a Sterling Sub Machine gun? The Sterling only came into service in 1953.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 12:45, 12 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::Its not historically accurate the game also features armoured mech suits and laser weapons. - [[User:Domj29|Domj29]] 14:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::Oh well. Atleast i get to kill nazis with a AK-47.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
: Making new version of the page with images. -[[User:Samz|Samz]] 16:20, 6 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
Silent Storm S2 is a WW2 tactical turn-based strategy game. | |||
The game notably features a focus on destructable environments as well as bullet penetration. | |||
It received sequels with an expansion pack called Sentinels moving the action to Post WW2 with the player recruiting characters from both the Allied/Axis campaigns from S2 as mercenaries. Hammer & Sickle, a mod turned standalone game, moves the action further into 1949 with the player as a Soviet Commando doing covert operatons behind British-American lines. | |||
Sentinels also added both a money system (instead of faction-alligned gear being free and unlocked by plot progression.) and alternative ammo types for weapons such as hollow points for guns and anti-armor rockets for the launchers. | |||
Hammer & Sickle changes how stats/mechanics work and added carry weight to the game with the total weight of the equipment the player is carrying impacting them as well as having relatively more of a focus on espionage and stealth over combat. | |||
A notable inclusion are "Panzerkleins" fictional mech suits that can be equipped with some heavier weaponry that wouldn't be man-portable (or are man portable in reality but locked to them like the Boys AT Rifle) for infantry, Panzerkleins also return in Sentinels though their stats are heavily rebalanced while Hammer & Sickle doesn't include them. | |||
While Sentinels is included in digital versions of Silent Storm, Hammer & Sickle has not seen a digital release. (and sadly is trapped behind Starforce DRM.) | |||
Weapons added in Sentinels will ''have Italic Text''. | |||
Weapons added in Hammer & Sickle will '''have Bold Text''' | |||
=Pistols= | |||
==''Browning Hi-Power''== | |||
The [[Browning Hi-Power]] is added in ''Sentinels''. | |||
[[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm]] | |||
[[Image:SilentStormHiPower.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
==''Colt Detective Special''== | |||
The [[Colt Detective Special]] is added in ''Sentinels''. | |||
[[Image:Colt Detective Special.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Colt Detective Special - .38 Special]] | |||
[[Image:Silent Storm Colt Detective Special.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
== Luger P08 == | |||
The [[Luger P08]] appears in two versions, a black gripped "Luger P08" and a brown gripped "Luger British". | |||
These use the exact same ".38" ammo down to even using the exact same magazines (Silent Storm has an error where every 9x19mm weapon is chambered in .38) despite the Luger British using ".38 British Service", a distinction no other British .38 weapon has. | |||
The two Lugers are practically identical gameplay-wise with the "Luger P08" just barely having slightly higher damage and range over the British counterpart. (With the British counterpart having higher durability in Sentinels.) | |||
[[Image:LugerP08Pistol.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Luger P08 - 9x19mm]] | |||
[[Image:SilentStormLuger.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The two Lugers in the inventory menu.]] | |||
==Nagant M1895== | |||
The [[Nagant M1895]] revolver appears as the "Nagant 1910" in both a suppressed and unsuppressed version. | |||
It is depicted as the only "multifaction" realistic weapon as both Quartermasters for the Allied/Axis campaigns will supply the player both this weapon and ammunition for it. | |||
Unlike other firearms which use magazines or speedloaders, the Nagant M1895's ammo is (visually) just 7 cartridges taking up 1 inventory tile that's actually up to ''21'' rounds for the Nagant, it's the only firearm that has it's ammunition supply more ammo than the capacity of the weapon. | |||
[[File:Nagant-1895.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Nagant M1895 - 7.62x38N]] | |||
[[Image:SilentStormNagantm1895.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The normal and suppressed Nagant 1895 in the inventory.]] | |||
== '''Stechkin APS''' == | |||
The [[Stechkin APS]] appears as a new pistol in '''Hammer & Sickle'''. | |||
[[File:Pistol Russian Stechkin 9x18mm Makarov machine pistol 2.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Stechkin APS - 9x18mm.]] | |||
== ''Sterling Mk.7'' == | |||
The [[Sterling_SMG#Sterling_Mk.7 | Sterling Mk.7]] is added as the "Sterling Patachett Para" in ''Sentinels''. | |||
[[File:Sterling MK7.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sterling Mk.7 A4 - 9x19mm]] | |||
[[Image:SilentStormSterlingMK7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
==Webley & Scott Revolver== | |||
An unknown [[Webley_%26_Scott#Revolvers | Webley & Scott]] Revolver is available as the "Webley & Scott" chambered in .455 Webley. | |||
It functions as the sterotypical "Magnum" of the game, dealing extremely high damage (capable of surpassing rifles) with low accuracy. | |||
''Sentinels'' reworks the Webley to have lower damage but can now be aimed like other pistols instead of only low-accuracy snap shots. | |||
In ''Sentinels'' it is also used by Swiss police. | |||
[[Image:SilentStormWebley&Scott.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
=Submachine Guns= | |||
=='''IMI UZI'''== | |||
The [[Uzi#Uzi|Uzi]] is added in '''Hammer & Sickle'''. | |||
[[Image:Uzi.jpg|thumb|none|350px|IMI Uzi - 9x19mm]] | |||
=='''MAT-49'''== | |||
The [[MAT-49]] is added in '''Hammer & Sickle'''. | |||
[[file:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none|450px|MAT-49 - 9x19mm]] | |||
== ''Sterling SMG'' == | |||
The [[Sterling SMG]] is added in ''Sentinels''. | |||
[[Image:SterlingSMG.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Sterling L2A3 - 9x19mm]] | |||
[[Image:SilentStormSterling.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
=Rifles= | |||
==''AK-47''== | |||
The [[AK-47]] is added in ''Sentinels''. | |||
[[file:TypeIII AK47.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]] | |||
[[file:SilentStormAK-47.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
==Boys AT Rifle== | |||
A fictionalized [[Boys anti-tank rifle]] appears as the "PTR Boys Gun" as a Panzerklein exclusive weapon. (Despite the fact the real life weapon is designed to be used by infantry.) | |||
Oddly all anti-armor rifles are treated as Panzerklein Sniper Rifles, having the option to use the unique scoped firing mode exclusive to scoped rifles despite the lack of any scope mounted on them. | |||
[[File:BoysMkIATRifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Boys Mark I - .55 Boys (13.9x99mmB)]] | |||
[[File:SilentStormBoysATRifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The "PTR Boys Gun" attached to a Panzerklein.]] | |||
==''Gustloff Volkssturmgewehr''== | |||
The [[Gustloff Volkssturmgewehr]] appears as new weapon in ''Sentinels''. While it's called an "Assault Rifle" when the cursor is placed over it, is classified mechanically with perks and the inventory as a submachine gun with abnormally high range and damage, a rather unusual choice as the real deal was not select fire. | |||
[[File:MP508.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Gustloff Volkssturmgewehr MP508 - 7.92x33mm Kurz]] | |||
[[Image:SilentStormvolkssturmgewehr.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
==''TKB-408''== | |||
The [[TKB-408]] appears in ''Sentinels''. | |||
[[Image:TKB-408.jpg|thumb|none|350px|TKB-408 - 7.62x39mm]] | |||
[[Image:SilentStormTKB408.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
==Panzerbüchse M.SS.41 == | |||
A highly altered [[Panzerbüchse M.SS.41]] appears as the "MSS 41 Sniper Cannon" as a Panzerklein weapon and has oddly been heavily redesigned to unbullpup it. | |||
[[file:Panzerbüchse M.SS.41.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Panzerbüchse M.SS.41 - 7.92x94mm (Patrone 318)]] | |||
[[Image:SilentStormMSS41.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "MSS 41 Sniper Cannon" attached to a Panzerklein.]] | |||
=Machine Guns= | |||
==Bren Mk1== | |||
The [[Bren gun|Bren Mk1]] appears as one of the machine guns | |||
[[Image:Bren gun.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Bren Mk1 (M) - .303 British]] | |||
[[file:SilentStormBREN.jpg|thumb|none|500px]] | |||
==DP Machine Gun== | |||
What is either the DP-27 or DP-28 from the DP from the [[Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun]] appears as the "DP". | |||
[[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Degtyaryov DP-27/28 - 7.62x54mm R]] | |||
[[Image:SilentStormDP.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
==DShK== | |||
The [[DShK heavy machine gun|DShK]] appears either mounted as a stationary turret or as a machine gun mounted on Panzerkleins. | |||
[[File:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|450px|DShKM on tripod - 12.7x108mm.]] | |||
[[File:SilentStormDSHKmounted.jpg|thumb|none|600px|DShK mounted turret in-game.]] | |||
== MG34 == | |||
The [[MG34]] appears on a tripod mounting. | |||
[[Image:MG34 Lafette.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MG34 on tripod - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | |||
[[File:SilentStormBoysMG34Tripod.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A tripod mounted MG34.]] | |||
== RPD == | |||
The [[RPD]] appears as one of the Allied machine guns. | |||
[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPD Light Machine Gun - 7.62x39mm]] | |||
[[Image:SilentStormRPD.jpg|thumb|none|500px]] | |||
=Explosives= | |||
==PMD-6 Mine== | |||
The [[PMD-6 Mine]] is available as the "PMD-6M" | |||
[[File:PMD-6 Mine.jpg|thumb|none|250px|PMD-6 Mine]] | |||
[[File:SilentStormPMD6M.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "Smiz-35".]] | |||
==S-Mine== | |||
The [[S-Mine]] appears as the "Smiz-35" mine. | |||
[[File:Schrapnellmine 35 mine.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Schrapnellmine 35]] | |||
[[File:SilentStormSmz35.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "Smiz-35".]] | |||
==Schützenmine 42== | |||
The [[Schützenmine 42]] mine appears as the "Shumi-42" | |||
[[File:Schützenmine_42.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Schützenmine 42]] | |||
[[File:SilentStormSchützenmine 42.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "Shumi-42".]] | |||
=Others= | |||
==2cm FlaK 38== | |||
The [[2cm FlaK 38]] appears rarely as a usable turret. | |||
[[file:Flak38single.jpg|thumb|none|350px|2 cm FlaK 38 in single mounting - 20x138mm B]] | |||
[[Image:SilentStormFlak38.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The FlaK 38 in-game.]] | |||
==OSS "Bigot" M1911== | |||
The [[M1911_pistol_series#OSS_.22Bigot.22_M1911 | OSS "Bigot" M1911]] appears as a rare weapon from a specific random encounter and is misidentified as the "Big Joe". (presumably the Big Joe 5 Crossbow.) | |||
It fires explosive darts. | |||
In ''Sentinels'' it is now available from the Arms Dealer. | |||
[[File:Bigot 1911 pistol.jpg|thumb|none|350px|OSS "Bigot" M1911A1. The dart pictured here is the most popular kind, with sliding notched fins.]] | |||
[[Image:SilentStormM1911Bigot.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
==Little Joe Crossbow== | |||
The "Little Joe" Crossbow appears as a rare weapon, notably not only is in different random encounters for both Allied/Axis players, both encounters will only sometimes spawn the weapon in a specific variant of the encounter. | |||
It can be instead purchased from the Arms Dealer in ''Sentinels''. | |||
[[File:Little Joe Crossbow.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Little Joe crossbow.]] | |||
[[Image:SilentStormLittleJoeCrossbow.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
Latest revision as of 19:09, 11 December 2023
- Why is there an AK-47 in a WW2 game?-S&Wshooter 21:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- The game is set a few years after the orignal 1948 I think. - Domj29 01:49, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Also, Why is there a Sterling Sub Machine gun? The Sterling only came into service in 1953.-Oliveira 12:45, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Its not historically accurate the game also features armoured mech suits and laser weapons. - Domj29 14:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Oh well. Atleast i get to kill nazis with a AK-47.-Oliveira 13:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Also, Why is there a Sterling Sub Machine gun? The Sterling only came into service in 1953.-Oliveira 12:45, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- The game is set a few years after the orignal 1948 I think. - Domj29 01:49, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Making new version of the page with images. -Samz 16:20, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
Silent Storm S2 is a WW2 tactical turn-based strategy game.
The game notably features a focus on destructable environments as well as bullet penetration. It received sequels with an expansion pack called Sentinels moving the action to Post WW2 with the player recruiting characters from both the Allied/Axis campaigns from S2 as mercenaries. Hammer & Sickle, a mod turned standalone game, moves the action further into 1949 with the player as a Soviet Commando doing covert operatons behind British-American lines.
Sentinels also added both a money system (instead of faction-alligned gear being free and unlocked by plot progression.) and alternative ammo types for weapons such as hollow points for guns and anti-armor rockets for the launchers.
Hammer & Sickle changes how stats/mechanics work and added carry weight to the game with the total weight of the equipment the player is carrying impacting them as well as having relatively more of a focus on espionage and stealth over combat.
A notable inclusion are "Panzerkleins" fictional mech suits that can be equipped with some heavier weaponry that wouldn't be man-portable (or are man portable in reality but locked to them like the Boys AT Rifle) for infantry, Panzerkleins also return in Sentinels though their stats are heavily rebalanced while Hammer & Sickle doesn't include them.
While Sentinels is included in digital versions of Silent Storm, Hammer & Sickle has not seen a digital release. (and sadly is trapped behind Starforce DRM.)
Weapons added in Sentinels will have Italic Text.
Weapons added in Hammer & Sickle will have Bold Text
Pistols
Browning Hi-Power
The Browning Hi-Power is added in Sentinels.
Colt Detective Special
The Colt Detective Special is added in Sentinels.
Luger P08
The Luger P08 appears in two versions, a black gripped "Luger P08" and a brown gripped "Luger British". These use the exact same ".38" ammo down to even using the exact same magazines (Silent Storm has an error where every 9x19mm weapon is chambered in .38) despite the Luger British using ".38 British Service", a distinction no other British .38 weapon has. The two Lugers are practically identical gameplay-wise with the "Luger P08" just barely having slightly higher damage and range over the British counterpart. (With the British counterpart having higher durability in Sentinels.)
Nagant M1895
The Nagant M1895 revolver appears as the "Nagant 1910" in both a suppressed and unsuppressed version. It is depicted as the only "multifaction" realistic weapon as both Quartermasters for the Allied/Axis campaigns will supply the player both this weapon and ammunition for it. Unlike other firearms which use magazines or speedloaders, the Nagant M1895's ammo is (visually) just 7 cartridges taking up 1 inventory tile that's actually up to 21 rounds for the Nagant, it's the only firearm that has it's ammunition supply more ammo than the capacity of the weapon.
Stechkin APS
The Stechkin APS appears as a new pistol in Hammer & Sickle.
Sterling Mk.7
The Sterling Mk.7 is added as the "Sterling Patachett Para" in Sentinels.
Webley & Scott Revolver
An unknown Webley & Scott Revolver is available as the "Webley & Scott" chambered in .455 Webley. It functions as the sterotypical "Magnum" of the game, dealing extremely high damage (capable of surpassing rifles) with low accuracy. Sentinels reworks the Webley to have lower damage but can now be aimed like other pistols instead of only low-accuracy snap shots. In Sentinels it is also used by Swiss police.
Submachine Guns
IMI UZI
The Uzi is added in Hammer & Sickle.
MAT-49
The MAT-49 is added in Hammer & Sickle.
Sterling SMG
The Sterling SMG is added in Sentinels.
Rifles
AK-47
The AK-47 is added in Sentinels.
Boys AT Rifle
A fictionalized Boys anti-tank rifle appears as the "PTR Boys Gun" as a Panzerklein exclusive weapon. (Despite the fact the real life weapon is designed to be used by infantry.) Oddly all anti-armor rifles are treated as Panzerklein Sniper Rifles, having the option to use the unique scoped firing mode exclusive to scoped rifles despite the lack of any scope mounted on them.
Gustloff Volkssturmgewehr
The Gustloff Volkssturmgewehr appears as new weapon in Sentinels. While it's called an "Assault Rifle" when the cursor is placed over it, is classified mechanically with perks and the inventory as a submachine gun with abnormally high range and damage, a rather unusual choice as the real deal was not select fire.
TKB-408
The TKB-408 appears in Sentinels.
Panzerbüchse M.SS.41
A highly altered Panzerbüchse M.SS.41 appears as the "MSS 41 Sniper Cannon" as a Panzerklein weapon and has oddly been heavily redesigned to unbullpup it.
Machine Guns
Bren Mk1
The Bren Mk1 appears as one of the machine guns
DP Machine Gun
What is either the DP-27 or DP-28 from the DP from the Degtyaryov DP Series Machine Gun appears as the "DP".
DShK
The DShK appears either mounted as a stationary turret or as a machine gun mounted on Panzerkleins.
MG34
The MG34 appears on a tripod mounting.
RPD
The RPD appears as one of the Allied machine guns.
Explosives
PMD-6 Mine
The PMD-6 Mine is available as the "PMD-6M"
S-Mine
The S-Mine appears as the "Smiz-35" mine.
Schützenmine 42
The Schützenmine 42 mine appears as the "Shumi-42"
Others
2cm FlaK 38
The 2cm FlaK 38 appears rarely as a usable turret.
OSS "Bigot" M1911
The OSS "Bigot" M1911 appears as a rare weapon from a specific random encounter and is misidentified as the "Big Joe". (presumably the Big Joe 5 Crossbow.) It fires explosive darts. In Sentinels it is now available from the Arms Dealer.
Little Joe Crossbow
The "Little Joe" Crossbow appears as a rare weapon, notably not only is in different random encounters for both Allied/Axis players, both encounters will only sometimes spawn the weapon in a specific variant of the encounter. It can be instead purchased from the Arms Dealer in Sentinels.
