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| Since those crazies from the site guns ru accuse me of having stolen "their" film, I ask you to just remove it, and forget about it. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 09:14, 8 February 2019 (EST)
| | The idea and screenshots are provided by AVSniff, forum.guns.ru. --[[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 06:08, 28 July 2019 (EDT) |
| : But.. we're not "stealing" "their" film, we're chronicling the firearms used in a piece of media, that's it. Now if these were spy spots from something still in production or otherwise yet to be released that'd be one thing but this is a 30 year old flick. This before we even get into the question of whether a few internet 'crazies' actually have any let alone exclusive rights to it in the first place. Bottom-line I don't see how they can insist or demand us to remove a damn thing and frankly I don't see why we should humor them, either. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:08, 8 February 2019 (EST)
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| ::Greg-Z works with guns.ru a lot. Did you talk to him? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:19, 8 February 2019 (EST)
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| :::Well, I myself do not really understand. Are ''screenshots'' of a movie, taken from a publicly available free source, is a copyright objects? Many of my files have long been scattered over the Internet, but I have never freaked out about this, as these are not some author's photos or images, and not even from some rare copy; and no one can claim true possession of movie frames, except for the actual creators of this film. But so that these crazy people do not annoy us, I would just like we to forget about it. And I advise anyone to never take anything from that site again, do not repeat my mistakes. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 14:30, 8 February 2019 (EST)
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| ::::We should be covered under fair use. If they took the screenshots, you're certainly not stealing from them, but it'd be courteous to at least credit them. Again, talk to Greg-Z. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:32, 8 February 2019 (EST)
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| :::::Well, considering that there is only one known available copy of this film, it does not make any sense at all. Therefore, I would prefer to just delete it, and forget about it. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 15:56, 8 February 2019 (EST)
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| :::::: Bah, I too don't understand what the deal is now and/or with this particular film given we've used guns.ru as a resource for a while now. Like FCM said, fair use doctrine should be quite firmly on our side. As for 'annoying' us - likely all these so-called crazies can do is try to spam or troll on here in which case they'll just get blocked. All-in-all we shouldn't have to tiptoe because of some other fools on the internet. I do agree discussing this with Greg might help. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 23:46, 8 February 2019 (EST)
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