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I have added a DEFAULTSORT magic word to the page. This page will now be sorted by P instead of by T in categories, and thus no longer needs to have its "The" moved to the end of the title.--[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 23:35, 17 January 2019 (EST)
I have added a DEFAULTSORT magic word to the page. This page will now be sorted by P instead of by T in categories, and thus no longer needs to have its "The" moved to the end of the title.--[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 23:35, 17 January 2019 (EST)


The page no longer needs to have "The" moved to the end of the title. Why did we move it to the end of the title? --[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 14:53, 22 January 2019 (EST)
The page no longer needs to have "The" moved to the end of the title. Why did we move it to the end of the title? I have shown that it is not necessary. --[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 14:53, 22 January 2019 (EST)


==Frank's Kimber==
==Frank's Kimber==


I'm not sure if the Kimber Frank carries in Season 2 is the Warrior. It doesn't look like it has a rail on it but it does have the Novak sights. Also in episode 10 there's a shot of Frank loading his pistol and when he releases the slide the markings on the right side of the slide are visible but blurred. They look to say US and then two other words if I recall correctly not just one word. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 15:58, 20 January 2019 (EST)
I'm not sure if the Kimber Frank carries in Season 2 is the Warrior. It doesn't look like it has a rail on it but it does have the Novak sights. Also in episode 10 there's a shot of Frank loading his pistol and when he releases the slide the markings on the right side of the slide are visible but blurred. They look to say US and then two other words if I recall correctly not just one word. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 15:58, 20 January 2019 (EST)
I'm fairly sure it was a Kimber Custom TLE. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 12:29, 23 January 2019 (EST)
[[File:PunisherS2E10_12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of Castle's pistol in "The Dark Hearts of Man" (S2E10).]]
The markings are in the wrong place for the TLE and they're too long as well. --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] ([[User talk:Cool-breeze|talk]]) 16:51, 28 February 2019 (EST)
:You can see the same thing on the 2nd pic of the season one page. Maybe a Warrior slide on a different frame? Although actually, the writing on the slide doesn't seem to match up either. I've scrolled through the 1911, Kimber and Para page and I can't find anything that matches. I'm thinking this might be a custom job. I found a [https://picturearchive.gunauction.com/1700/8028468/7be51f9a4eb3b319670aa6149ac926d7.jpg Llama 1911] that was a pretty close match but it has that rectangular extractor piece(not sure what it's called) that extends into the rear serrations, other than that it matches up perfectly. Slide serrations match, placement of the writing matches up. The sights and trigger are different but that can be done post-factory. --[[User:Slemke1998|Slemke1998]] ([[User talk:Slemke1998|talk]]) 08:46, 4 March 2019 (EST)
::I'm sure I see an S.S. rollmark on the slide so it could be an anodized stainless steel M1911 with some wear along the slide because that chicken scratch doesn't look appropriate for any part of the alphabet. [[User:Black Irish Paddy|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy|talk]]) 10:13, 4 March 2019 (EST)
:::Assuming it's the same gun, there's quite a few good shots of it at about 16 minutes into episode 6 if that helps--[[User:Slemke1998|Slemke1998]] ([[User talk:Slemke1998|talk]]) 09:16, 5 March 2019 (EST)
::::Can we put it as a "Custom M1911A1 (Kimber Hybrid)" or something along the lines of that? Since it has parts from different Kimber (maybe multiple different manufacturers) 1911s --[[User:I'mallaboutguns.1|I'mallaboutguns.1]] ([[User talk:I'mallaboutguns.1|talk]]) 09:37, 5 March 2019 (EST)
:::::The problem is, we're not even sure where the different parts come from. Yes, the slide says kimber on the left side but the markings on the opposite side don't match up to anything --[[User:Slemke1998|Slemke1998]] ([[User talk:Slemke1998|talk]]) 03:50, 6 March 2019 (EST)
:::::: According to IMDB, [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2677021/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr590 this guy] was an armourer for season 1, which I'm pretty sure has the same 1911 but with tan grips, would anyone be able to reach out to him and see if he can help ID it? There's also Russo's AR15 from season 1 that needs to be IDed. --[[User:Slemke1998|Slemke1998]] ([[User talk:Slemke1998|talk]]) 06:24, 6 March 2019 (EST)
::::::::[[File:Example.jpg]] I found a Kimber known as MCSOCOM DET-1 which had all the features shown in Frank's gun while the roll marks are on the frame instead of the slide (for some kind of copy right issue I would think) seems to be the same as the one on Frank's I would assume this is the version he uses not the Warrior ([[User talk:Serpico1911|talk]]) 03:31, 28 March 2019 (EST)


==Not a MK12==
==Not a MK12==
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Judging by the forward assist built into the brass deflector, I'm thinking it's a [[Remington R25]]. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:36, 22 January 2019 (EST)
Judging by the forward assist built into the brass deflector, I'm thinking it's a [[Remington R25]]. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:36, 22 January 2019 (EST)
Maybe we should just call it an AR-10 because it looks like it has a bunch of different things one it. 16:23, 22 January 2019 (EST)
Both receivers are a perfect match for the R25. The raised ridges at the seam where they separate, the longer trigger box, the lack of any fencing on the lower receiver. Everything else like the handguard and buttstock is more or less interchangeable between platforms and thus would fit everything from an R25 to an AR-10 to an SR-25. I think it's best to ID based on the receivers. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 06:19, 23 January 2019 (EST)
== Missed Easter egg opportunity ==
When Frank donned the NYPD uniform to escape the hospital, I was a bit disappointed when the name tag didn't say [[The Walking Dead - Season 1|Walsh]]. :( [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 12:33, 23 January 2019 (EST)
:Well we did get an easter egg like that in GTA V if that makes you feel any better --[[User:Slemke1998|Slemke1998]] ([[User talk:Slemke1998|talk]]) 08:55, 4 March 2019 (EST)
::John Bernthal isn't part of GTA V's voice cast, though, which is why it's much more unfortunate here. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 09:18, 4 March 2019 (EST)
== Please help ID ==
Please help ID these weapons. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 17:55, 24 January 2019 (EST)
[[File:PunisherS2E13 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:PunisherS2E13 14.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[File:PunisherS2E13 19.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
The pistol in Pilgrim's hands looks like a P250 Compact (I can't make out any forward slide serrations like on the P320), the suppressed carbine in the hands of the CIA guard with his back to the camera in the second screenshot looks like an HK416 judging by the angled edges of the handguard, and the SBRs Frank is using in the third screenshot are probably the same model of 9mm SBR that Russo used in his shootout with Frank and the NYPD. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:22, 25 January 2019 (EST)
== Netflix and Marvel are apparently done ==
The last remaining shows, this and ''[[Jessica Jones]]'', are finished. [https://www.wired.com/story/netflix-canceled-jessica-jones-punisher/] [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 14:38, 19 February 2019 (EST)
== Finally, a show that knows how Glocks work! ==
Made my day when Frank said "Just point and shoot, there's no safety.". They definitely put quite a bit of thought into the guns used in this show. --[[User:Slemke1998|Slemke1998]] ([[User talk:Slemke1998|talk]]) 05:13, 4 March 2019 (EST)
: They did something like that on ''The Rookie'', the Nathan Fillon cop show. One of the older officers pulls the whole "not with the safety on" trick on a gunman, then tackles him when he looks. Another office then picks up the gun and notes that it is as Glock, it has no safety.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 16:12, 22 March 2019 (EDT)
== Hardin's sidearm ==
Sheriff Hardin has a 1911 with Colt medallion grips holstered, not sure which variant it is though, the grip can be seen somewhat clearly towards the end of episode 2 when he's talking to Frank. --[[User:Slemke1998|Slemke1998]] ([[User talk:Slemke1998|talk]]) 05:55, 4 March 2019 (EST)
== Browning HP ==
The hitman with a ponytail uses a Browning Hi-power in episode 9, it can be seen at about 43 minutes in --[[User:Slemke1998|Slemke1998]] ([[User talk:Slemke1998|talk]]) 02:20, 6 March 2019 (EST)
== Amy's sidearm ==
In "The Whirlwind" (S2E13), Amy carries a gun and threatens the Schultz's with it. I'm not too sure what it was, but it seemed to be a SIG-Sauer variant. --[[User:Bauer2121|Bauer2121]] ([[User talk:Bauer2121|talk]]) 16:01, 22 March 2019 (EDT)
== Mossberg Shotgun Magazine ==
Correct me if I'm wrong but does the Mossberg Shotgun and a Magazine attached to it?
:Yep, looks like the new 590M with a detachable double-stack magazine (a 20-rounder, judging by the length). Also, don't forget to sign your posts - type "<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>" without the quotation marks after your messages on talk pages. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 16:39, 22 March 2019 (EDT)
::Okay Thank You--[[User:Balin21|Balin21]] ([[User talk:Balin21|talk]]) 16:42, 22 March 2019 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 18:34, 16 August 2023

A note on titling

I have added a DEFAULTSORT magic word to the page. This page will now be sorted by P instead of by T in categories, and thus no longer needs to have its "The" moved to the end of the title.--Wuzh (talk) 23:35, 17 January 2019 (EST)

The page no longer needs to have "The" moved to the end of the title. Why did we move it to the end of the title? I have shown that it is not necessary. --Wuzh (talk) 14:53, 22 January 2019 (EST)

Frank's Kimber

I'm not sure if the Kimber Frank carries in Season 2 is the Warrior. It doesn't look like it has a rail on it but it does have the Novak sights. Also in episode 10 there's a shot of Frank loading his pistol and when he releases the slide the markings on the right side of the slide are visible but blurred. They look to say US and then two other words if I recall correctly not just one word. --cool-breeze (talk) 15:58, 20 January 2019 (EST)

I'm fairly sure it was a Kimber Custom TLE. Spartan198 (talk) 12:29, 23 January 2019 (EST)

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Closeup of Castle's pistol in "The Dark Hearts of Man" (S2E10).

The markings are in the wrong place for the TLE and they're too long as well. --cool-breeze (talk) 16:51, 28 February 2019 (EST)

You can see the same thing on the 2nd pic of the season one page. Maybe a Warrior slide on a different frame? Although actually, the writing on the slide doesn't seem to match up either. I've scrolled through the 1911, Kimber and Para page and I can't find anything that matches. I'm thinking this might be a custom job. I found a Llama 1911 that was a pretty close match but it has that rectangular extractor piece(not sure what it's called) that extends into the rear serrations, other than that it matches up perfectly. Slide serrations match, placement of the writing matches up. The sights and trigger are different but that can be done post-factory. --Slemke1998 (talk) 08:46, 4 March 2019 (EST)
I'm sure I see an S.S. rollmark on the slide so it could be an anodized stainless steel M1911 with some wear along the slide because that chicken scratch doesn't look appropriate for any part of the alphabet. Black Irish Paddy (talk) 10:13, 4 March 2019 (EST)
Assuming it's the same gun, there's quite a few good shots of it at about 16 minutes into episode 6 if that helps--Slemke1998 (talk) 09:16, 5 March 2019 (EST)
Can we put it as a "Custom M1911A1 (Kimber Hybrid)" or something along the lines of that? Since it has parts from different Kimber (maybe multiple different manufacturers) 1911s --I'mallaboutguns.1 (talk) 09:37, 5 March 2019 (EST)
The problem is, we're not even sure where the different parts come from. Yes, the slide says kimber on the left side but the markings on the opposite side don't match up to anything --Slemke1998 (talk) 03:50, 6 March 2019 (EST)
According to IMDB, this guy was an armourer for season 1, which I'm pretty sure has the same 1911 but with tan grips, would anyone be able to reach out to him and see if he can help ID it? There's also Russo's AR15 from season 1 that needs to be IDed. --Slemke1998 (talk) 06:24, 6 March 2019 (EST)
File:Example.jpg I found a Kimber known as MCSOCOM DET-1 which had all the features shown in Frank's gun while the roll marks are on the frame instead of the slide (for some kind of copy right issue I would think) seems to be the same as the one on Frank's I would assume this is the version he uses not the Warrior (talk) 03:31, 28 March 2019 (EST)

Not a MK12

I think the magazine is too wide to be a 5.56 mag. I think it's a 7.62. In the script, Curtis even calls it an AR-10 Excalibur01 (talk) 09:53, 21 January 2019 (EST)

Judging by the forward assist built into the brass deflector, I'm thinking it's a Remington R25. Spartan198 (talk) 07:36, 22 January 2019 (EST)

Maybe we should just call it an AR-10 because it looks like it has a bunch of different things one it. 16:23, 22 January 2019 (EST)

Both receivers are a perfect match for the R25. The raised ridges at the seam where they separate, the longer trigger box, the lack of any fencing on the lower receiver. Everything else like the handguard and buttstock is more or less interchangeable between platforms and thus would fit everything from an R25 to an AR-10 to an SR-25. I think it's best to ID based on the receivers. Spartan198 (talk) 06:19, 23 January 2019 (EST)

Missed Easter egg opportunity

When Frank donned the NYPD uniform to escape the hospital, I was a bit disappointed when the name tag didn't say Walsh. :( Spartan198 (talk) 12:33, 23 January 2019 (EST)

Well we did get an easter egg like that in GTA V if that makes you feel any better --Slemke1998 (talk) 08:55, 4 March 2019 (EST)
John Bernthal isn't part of GTA V's voice cast, though, which is why it's much more unfortunate here. Spartan198 (talk) 09:18, 4 March 2019 (EST)

Please help ID

Please help ID these weapons. --Ben41 (talk) 17:55, 24 January 2019 (EST)

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The pistol in Pilgrim's hands looks like a P250 Compact (I can't make out any forward slide serrations like on the P320), the suppressed carbine in the hands of the CIA guard with his back to the camera in the second screenshot looks like an HK416 judging by the angled edges of the handguard, and the SBRs Frank is using in the third screenshot are probably the same model of 9mm SBR that Russo used in his shootout with Frank and the NYPD. Spartan198 (talk) 07:22, 25 January 2019 (EST)

Netflix and Marvel are apparently done

The last remaining shows, this and Jessica Jones, are finished. [1] Spartan198 (talk) 14:38, 19 February 2019 (EST)

Finally, a show that knows how Glocks work!

Made my day when Frank said "Just point and shoot, there's no safety.". They definitely put quite a bit of thought into the guns used in this show. --Slemke1998 (talk) 05:13, 4 March 2019 (EST)

They did something like that on The Rookie, the Nathan Fillon cop show. One of the older officers pulls the whole "not with the safety on" trick on a gunman, then tackles him when he looks. Another office then picks up the gun and notes that it is as Glock, it has no safety.--Mandolin (talk) 16:12, 22 March 2019 (EDT)

Hardin's sidearm

Sheriff Hardin has a 1911 with Colt medallion grips holstered, not sure which variant it is though, the grip can be seen somewhat clearly towards the end of episode 2 when he's talking to Frank. --Slemke1998 (talk) 05:55, 4 March 2019 (EST)

Browning HP

The hitman with a ponytail uses a Browning Hi-power in episode 9, it can be seen at about 43 minutes in --Slemke1998 (talk) 02:20, 6 March 2019 (EST)

Amy's sidearm

In "The Whirlwind" (S2E13), Amy carries a gun and threatens the Schultz's with it. I'm not too sure what it was, but it seemed to be a SIG-Sauer variant. --Bauer2121 (talk) 16:01, 22 March 2019 (EDT)

Mossberg Shotgun Magazine

Correct me if I'm wrong but does the Mossberg Shotgun and a Magazine attached to it?

Yep, looks like the new 590M with a detachable double-stack magazine (a 20-rounder, judging by the length). Also, don't forget to sign your posts - type "~~~~" without the quotation marks after your messages on talk pages. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 16:39, 22 March 2019 (EDT)
Okay Thank You--Balin21 (talk) 16:42, 22 March 2019 (EDT)