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'''''See [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_1]], [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_2]], [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_3]] [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_4]] [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_5]], [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_6]], [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_7]] or [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_8]] for older discussions''''':
'''''See [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 11]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 12]] for older discussions''''':  


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==Happy 2023==
Happy New Year's to all. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 21:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC)


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== I guess, I made ID of Thark Rifle in John Carter movie ==


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At the ''[[John Carter (2012)|John Carter]]'' movie, most Tharks (Green Martian clan) use Thark Martian rifles. Of course, it was futurised guns, but, after closing inspection of the original movie props, I notice, that's this futusistic rifles were made from [[Tanegashima]]s (of course, a modern replicas). For proving this guess, I made a photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. So, I guess, that's useful to ID the gun as Tanegashma. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 13:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
[[Image:Thark rifle photoshop.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. The serpent for the match and closing powderbox (1), which is almost similar on the Tanegashima and Thark rifle. The pistol-grip buttstock (2) which is also almost similar. Of course, the movie prop is equipped with some part of other guns (percussion hammer) as well as some junks, to look more futuristic, as well, it's sawn in half, but the basing gun is Tanegashima.]]


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==Smiling Friends page?==
The western animation series Smiling Friends has quite a few realistically-drawn firearms which I documented on my sandbox [[User:Dnkakusei/Sandbox#Smiling_Friends_.5B2022-ongoing.2C_USA.5D|here]]. I would just like to know if the show qualifies for a page on this site. --[[User:Dnkakusei|Dnkakusei]] ([[User talk:Dnkakusei|talk]]) 13:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)


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== Delete category backlog ==


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Just want to holler at the mod/s just in case. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 07:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
: Got more screenshots from Detective Conan marked for deletion since Netflix Japan's able to get remastered episodes out and I'm slowly using them to update pages here. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 01:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
:: Got more stuff for deletion. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 06:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)


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== Blue Muzzle Flashes ==


Something I have noticed with classic action films, mostly within the 80's era, is that a lot of muzzle flashes appear more blue than yellow. Did this have something to do with the type of blanks/props that were being used back then, or was this just a result of 1980's cinematography? --[[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 12:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)


=2019=
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May you all have a great 2019! Happy New Year! --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 16:46, 31 December 2018 (EST)
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:Damn, I was hoping to beat everyone else to it this year. Stupid timezones... well, regardless, best wishes to everybody here! Here's to hoping that 2019 turns out well. Cheers, [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 16:58, 31 December 2018 (EST)
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::Happy New Year! Best wishes to everybody, in all corners of our Earth! [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 18:26, 31 December 2018 (EST)
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:::Guess what everyone? It's finally the ''[[Blade Runner]]'' year! Go get your spinners and PKD Blasters and hunt those skinjobs from the face of the Earth!--[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 20:56, 31 December 2018 (EST)
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:::: ^ Stay away from my pleasure model, bud! And a kickass 2019 to all. ;) [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 20:59, 31 December 2018 (EST)


== Foreign language titles with translated titles that start with "The" ==
== Monsters vs Aliens? ==


So the IMFDB policy on films with foreign titles only is to use a translated title and include the original title in brackets after the title. However, when "The" appears at the start of the translated title, our policy is apparently to move it to the end of the title too. This creates confusing titles like [[Gleiwitz Case (Der Fall Gleiwitz), The]], [[White Guard (Belaya gvardiya), The]], or the extremely confusing [[Star (Zvezda), The (1949)]], which adds a year at the end of the title. These titles are very confusing for several reasons: one is that the title is partially broken up due to the "The" policy, meaning that the translated title loses its "The", which can change its meaning. Two is that these translated titles are not actually official titles; sorting them with or without "the" is meaningless since we're sorting them by an unofficial title created solely for IMFDB. If anything, they should be sorted by their original language title. Thus, I propose that these titles should be exempt from the "The" rule, and they should use <nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT}}</nowiki> to sort them based on their original language titles. --[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 15:23, 12 January 2019 (EST)
Should we add a page about Monsters vs Aliens, the movie has some detailed guns like the M4 Carbine
: We add years to differentiate between same-named titles; remakes and series and so forth. It's a unilateral practice and one that I fail to see makes anything ''more'' confusing. That said, [[Rules,_Standards_and_Principles#The_American_Release_Title_takes_precedence|our rule]] on the matter seems to handle the rest of your so-called 'problem'. If there's no official title, we use a translated title except in certain instances, simple as that. This is how we do it, and have done it for all this time with - until now - no complaint whatsoever that I'm aware of. And if the translation includes a 'the' to it (and I'll grant that may be an optional linguistic liberty in some cases), well there it is. I don't think anybody's willing to get into a debate on the merits of translation and usage here. That aside this is just an extension of your previous complaint about the 'the' issue, and like that issue this is a 'problem' that again no one has raised as such other than you. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 16:37, 12 January 2019 (EST)
 
:: Fine. With no support, I'm not gonna pursue a policy change. But my opinion won't be changing in the slightest. The IMFDB policy is ''very'' flawed and is only maintained out of sheer laziness. --[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 18:03, 12 January 2019 (EST)
== Prodigal Son - Season 2, Unknown semi-auto pistol ==
::: Hey I'm just one user who provided a counterargument, I don't decide things around here or anything so don't be defeated so quick - at least give it a bit and see how others respond. Not saying it will make a change happen per-say but who knows? That said you can have any opinion you like about the standards - I certainly don't agree with absolutely everything myself - but they're what we got and what we operate on; saying one way is poorer or better is mostly subjective. For the record, I'm pretty sure the RS&P were arrived at with some consideration and thought. Which brings me to my final 'for the record' remark: I doubt calling the rest of us lazy is going to gain you any support in anything. Just sayin'. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 19:20, 12 January 2019 (EST)
 
:::: Sorry. My meanings came out wrong. I meant that the policy was "lazy" in the sense that it was never challenged despite having obvious flaws. --[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 20:05, 12 January 2019 (EST)
I believe have a positive ID on the "unknown" semi-auto pistol listed for Prodigal Son - Season 2.
::::: Clarification accepted, and kind of goes to my original point - Maybe it hasn't been challenged because it's just not that big an issue in the first place. Again just sayin'. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:03, 13 January 2019 (EST)
 
Frankly I'm unsure as to why the "The" rule exists at all aside from noone wanting to put in the effort to switch everything over. It's ugly and absolutely nowhere else does it. --[[User:Tamarin88|Tamarin88]] ([[User talk:Tamarin88|talk]]) 19:40, 12 January 2019 (EST)
I requested an account specifically to help with this ID but I don't understand how to correctly add this info
: We had [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_8#The_Titling.2C_The|that discussion]] already. That being said Tamarin now you have made the insinuation I took issue with before - one that frankly peeves me quite a bit. That said, no I don't believe there is any dire need to go about such a massive wholesale change on the site that really will improve next-to-absolutely-nothing on here aside from satisfying some aesthetic ideal. Imply we're a bunch of lazy slobs for it if you want, but again that is one of the methods that is least likely to get us to consider changing anything. But perhaps no one has bothered putting forth the effort for this 'problem' because there is none and as such the effort is not nearly worth the bother. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:03, 13 January 2019 (EST)
 
If someone could vet this and add it, I'd appreciate it!
 
Prodigal Son - S02E10, "Exit Strategy". At approx 34m:30s, Felix (spoiler: Clayton Fielder's twin) climbs a staircase while brandishing, then racking, a silver-tone semi-auto I identify as a TriStar P-120 (CZ75 clone). It's later seen several times from virtually every conceivable angle starting around 38:10.
 
:I checked it and I think you're right, so I did make all the necessary changes. By the way, don't forget to put your nickname and time in all discussions using 4 "~" at the end of each post. [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 15:30, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 
: Thank you!
 
Therealnecroscope, 06:35, 6 June 2023
 
(Testing nic/time)
[[User:Therealnecroscope|Therealnecroscope]] ([[User talk:Therealnecroscope|talk]]) 10:35, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 
==White M18 grenade==
Are white M18 smoke grenade only seen in TV/movies/games? Been seeing some of those. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 17:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
:I don't think they come in white IRL. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 
==Stunt/action choreography for a director's page==
On the page for stunt choreographer and two-time film director [[Kensuke Sonomura]], I've added a list of films and games that he contributed stunt direction and choreography to. I'm planning on fully adding these productions to his category, but I was told to ask an admin first because stunt coordination is a pretty niche credit, however I believe that these productions should be added to his category as stunt and action sequences are vital and important parts of these films and games. Is it safe to add the pages? --[[User:Dnkakusei|Dnkakusei]] ([[User talk:Dnkakusei|talk]]) 12:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 
==Firearm citations without screen grabs?==
I am new here, and I have not seen any guidelines about whether it's okay to cite a firearm in a movie listing without an associated screen grab. Is it better to have a weapon identified, even without a photo? ... or is it really better to make sure that each citation includes corresponding screen grabs? --[[User:226X5-9-TAC|226X5-9-TAC]] ([[User talk:226X5-9-TAC|talk]]) 23:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC).
:First off, welcome aboard. As for your question, if it's a pre-existing page, then pointing out a specific gun that doesn't already have a screencap is fine, as long as you're specific about when and where it appears (though having a screencap is always preferable). If it's for a page that doesn't exist yet, we'd prefer not - we have an excess of pages without screencaps as-is. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 23:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 
== Identifying revolver ==
 
What type of revolver is this? Film is from 1938. [[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 17:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 
[[File:L&HTroubles Revolver 1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
: Not really a detailed enough shot to tell much. Appears to be a mid-size, .38 or therabouts. Ejector rod looks rather long which makes me think it has a socket, which would make it a S&W. If so, likely a  Military & Police model. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 17:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 
==NCIS Sydney==
Should I wait until the episode/s airing in Australia in the last few weeks this month are accessible in Canada/US next month (January 2024) before screencapping, even though the show's backed by CBS and Paramount Plus? [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 10:05, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 
== Happy New Year! (2024) ==
 
Happy New Year to all IMFDB and may this year be prolific in page editing too!--[[User:Dannyguns|Dannyguns]] ([[User talk:Dannyguns|talk]]) 08:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 08:57, 1 January 2024

See Talk:Main Page/Archive 1, Talk:Main Page/Archive 2, Talk:Main Page/Archive 3, Talk:Main Page/Archive 4, Talk:Main Page/Archive 5, Talk:Main Page/Archive 6, Talk:Main Page/Archive 7, Talk:Main Page/Archive 8, Talk:Main Page/Archive 9, Talk:Main Page/Archive 10, Talk:Main Page/Archive 11, Talk:Main Page/Archive 12 for older discussions:

Happy 2023

Happy New Year's to all. --Ben41 (talk) 21:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

I guess, I made ID of Thark Rifle in John Carter movie

At the John Carter movie, most Tharks (Green Martian clan) use Thark Martian rifles. Of course, it was futurised guns, but, after closing inspection of the original movie props, I notice, that's this futusistic rifles were made from Tanegashimas (of course, a modern replicas). For proving this guess, I made a photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. So, I guess, that's useful to ID the gun as Tanegashma. Pyramid Silent (talk) 13:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

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A photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. The serpent for the match and closing powderbox (1), which is almost similar on the Tanegashima and Thark rifle. The pistol-grip buttstock (2) which is also almost similar. Of course, the movie prop is equipped with some part of other guns (percussion hammer) as well as some junks, to look more futuristic, as well, it's sawn in half, but the basing gun is Tanegashima.

Smiling Friends page?

The western animation series Smiling Friends has quite a few realistically-drawn firearms which I documented on my sandbox here. I would just like to know if the show qualifies for a page on this site. --Dnkakusei (talk) 13:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Delete category backlog

Just want to holler at the mod/s just in case. Ominae (talk) 07:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Got more screenshots from Detective Conan marked for deletion since Netflix Japan's able to get remastered episodes out and I'm slowly using them to update pages here. Ominae (talk) 01:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Got more stuff for deletion. Ominae (talk) 06:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Blue Muzzle Flashes

Something I have noticed with classic action films, mostly within the 80's era, is that a lot of muzzle flashes appear more blue than yellow. Did this have something to do with the type of blanks/props that were being used back then, or was this just a result of 1980's cinematography? --Theakker3 (talk) 12:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

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Monsters vs Aliens?

Should we add a page about Monsters vs Aliens, the movie has some detailed guns like the M4 Carbine

Prodigal Son - Season 2, Unknown semi-auto pistol

I believe have a positive ID on the "unknown" semi-auto pistol listed for Prodigal Son - Season 2.

I requested an account specifically to help with this ID but I don't understand how to correctly add this info

If someone could vet this and add it, I'd appreciate it!

Prodigal Son - S02E10, "Exit Strategy". At approx 34m:30s, Felix (spoiler: Clayton Fielder's twin) climbs a staircase while brandishing, then racking, a silver-tone semi-auto I identify as a TriStar P-120 (CZ75 clone). It's later seen several times from virtually every conceivable angle starting around 38:10.

I checked it and I think you're right, so I did make all the necessary changes. By the way, don't forget to put your nickname and time in all discussions using 4 "~" at the end of each post. Pustelga7 (talk) 15:30, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
Thank you!

Therealnecroscope, 06:35, 6 June 2023

(Testing nic/time) Therealnecroscope (talk) 10:35, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

White M18 grenade

Are white M18 smoke grenade only seen in TV/movies/games? Been seeing some of those. Ominae (talk) 17:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

I don't think they come in white IRL. --Funkychinaman (talk) 18:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Stunt/action choreography for a director's page

On the page for stunt choreographer and two-time film director Kensuke Sonomura, I've added a list of films and games that he contributed stunt direction and choreography to. I'm planning on fully adding these productions to his category, but I was told to ask an admin first because stunt coordination is a pretty niche credit, however I believe that these productions should be added to his category as stunt and action sequences are vital and important parts of these films and games. Is it safe to add the pages? --Dnkakusei (talk) 12:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Firearm citations without screen grabs?

I am new here, and I have not seen any guidelines about whether it's okay to cite a firearm in a movie listing without an associated screen grab. Is it better to have a weapon identified, even without a photo? ... or is it really better to make sure that each citation includes corresponding screen grabs? --226X5-9-TAC (talk) 23:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC).

First off, welcome aboard. As for your question, if it's a pre-existing page, then pointing out a specific gun that doesn't already have a screencap is fine, as long as you're specific about when and where it appears (though having a screencap is always preferable). If it's for a page that doesn't exist yet, we'd prefer not - we have an excess of pages without screencaps as-is. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 23:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Identifying revolver

What type of revolver is this? Film is from 1938. Theakker3 (talk) 17:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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Not really a detailed enough shot to tell much. Appears to be a mid-size, .38 or therabouts. Ejector rod looks rather long which makes me think it has a socket, which would make it a S&W. If so, likely a Military & Police model. StanTheMan (talk) 17:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

NCIS Sydney

Should I wait until the episode/s airing in Australia in the last few weeks this month are accessible in Canada/US next month (January 2024) before screencapping, even though the show's backed by CBS and Paramount Plus? Ominae (talk) 10:05, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy New Year! (2024)

Happy New Year to all IMFDB and may this year be prolific in page editing too!--Dannyguns (talk) 08:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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