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'''''The Fourth War''''' is a 1990 drama directed by [[John Frankenheimer]] and starring [[Roy Scheider]] as Jack Knowles, a US Army Colonel and decorated Vietnam veteran who comes to be at odds with a | '''''The Fourth War''''' is a 1990 drama directed by [[John Frankenheimer]] and starring [[Roy Scheider]] as Jack Knowles, a US Army Colonel and decorated Vietnam veteran who comes to be at odds with a Soviet colonel ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]) at the West German-Czechoslovakia border during the height of the Cold War in the late 1980s. | ||
{{Film Title|The Fourth War}} | {{Film Title|The Fourth War}} | ||
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[[Image:ColtCombatCommander.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Combat Commander - .45 ACP.]] | [[Image:ColtCombatCommander.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Combat Commander - .45 ACP.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the [[1911#Colt Commander|Colt Commander]] compact pistol carried by COL Knowles. Note that his Commander is fitted with an extended, ambidextrous safety lever.]] | [[File:4thWar 06.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Closeup of the [[1911#Colt Commander|Colt Commander]] compact pistol carried by COL Knowles. Note that his Commander is fitted with an extended, ambidextrous safety lever.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 37.jpg|thumb|none|600px|COL Jack Knowles ([[Roy Scheider]]) holds his .45 [[1911#Colt Commander|Colt Commander]] while confronting some | [[File:4thWar 37.jpg|thumb|none|600px|COL Jack Knowles ([[Roy Scheider]]) holds his .45 [[1911#Colt Commander|Colt Commander]] while confronting some Soviet soldiers.]] | ||
[[File:FourthWar-ColtCommander-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|COL Jack Knowles holds his Colt Commander on COL Valachev while confronting him in his car.]] | [[File:FourthWar-ColtCommander-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|COL Jack Knowles holds his Colt Commander on COL Valachev while confronting him in his car.]] | ||
[[File:FourthWar-ColtCommander-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another close view of Knowles' Colt Commander from the above scene.]] | [[File:FourthWar-ColtCommander-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another close view of Knowles' Colt Commander from the above scene.]] | ||
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==Makarov PM== | ==Makarov PM== | ||
A | A Soviet soldier is seen with a [[Makarov PM]]. | ||
[[Image:MakarovPM.jpg|none|thumb|300px|[[Makarov PM]] - 9x18mm Makarov]] | [[Image:MakarovPM.jpg|none|thumb|300px|[[Makarov PM]] - 9x18mm Makarov]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 21.jpg|thumb|none|600px|At the left, a [[Makarov PM]] is used.]] | [[File:4thWar 21.jpg|thumb|none|600px|At the left, a [[Makarov PM]] is used.]] | ||
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=Rifles= | =Rifles= | ||
==M16(SP1) with M16A2 handguards== | ==M16(SP1) with M16A2 handguards== | ||
An early [[M16/SP1]] rifle fitted with A2-style round handguards is notably used by COL Knowles during his secret missions. This particular rifle is also fitted with an underbarrel laser sight. This particular laser-sighted M16 is also used briefly at the end of the film by Lt. Colonel Clark ([[Tim Reid]]) after he takes it from one of his men. At the time of filming, the | An early [[M16/SP1]] rifle fitted with A2-style round handguards is notably used by COL Knowles during his secret missions. This particular rifle is also fitted with an underbarrel laser sight. This particular laser-sighted M16 is also used briefly at the end of the film by Lt. Colonel Clark ([[Tim Reid]]) after he takes it from one of his men. At the time of filming, the US Army had recently adopted the M16A2. | ||
[[Image:M16-SP1-with-A2-Handguards.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M16 aka SP1 (flat "slab side receiver") with A2 style handguards used to impersonate the M16A2 - 5.56x45mm]] | [[Image:M16-SP1-with-A2-Handguards.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt M16 aka SP1 (flat "slab side receiver") with A2 style handguards used to impersonate the M16A2 - 5.56x45mm]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 40.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An [[M16]] fitted with an under-barrel laser sight is notably used by COL Knowles during his secret missions.]] | [[File:4thWar 40.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An [[M16]] fitted with an under-barrel laser sight is notably used by COL Knowles during his secret missions.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 58.jpg|thumb|none|600px|COL Knowles holds the [[M16]] when he confronts the | [[File:4thWar 58.jpg|thumb|none|600px|COL Knowles holds the [[M16]] when he confronts the Soviet soldiers.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 33.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LTC Clark ([[Tim Reid]]) holding the laser-sighted M16 (SP1) with M16A2 handguards, which is also used in the film by COL Knowles ([[Roy Scheider]]).]] | [[File:4thWar 33.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LTC Clark ([[Tim Reid]]) holding the laser-sighted M16 (SP1) with M16A2 handguards, which is also used in the film by COL Knowles ([[Roy Scheider]]).]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 34.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LTC Clark ([[Tim Reid]]) activates the laser.]] | [[File:4thWar 34.jpg|thumb|none|600px|LTC Clark ([[Tim Reid]]) activates the laser.]] | ||
==M16A1 (w/ A2 style handguard)== | ==M16A1 (w/ A2 style handguard)== | ||
The majority of the US soldiers in the film carry what appear to be [[M16A2]]-style rifles, but close inspection reveals that they are in fact | The majority of the US soldiers in the film carry what appear to be [[M16A2]]-style rifles, but close inspection reveals that they are in fact carrying [[M16A1|M16A1s with A2 style handguards]]. | ||
[[Image:M16A1wA2Handguards.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with A2 style handguards - 5.56x45mm.]] | [[Image:M16A1wA2Handguards.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with A2 style handguards - 5.56x45mm.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|US troops at the right with their rifles. Note the forward assists.]] | [[File:4thWar 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|US troops at the right with their rifles. Note the forward assists.]] | ||
==Norinco Type 56-1== | ==Norinco Type 56-1== | ||
What appears to be the [[Norinco Type 56-1]] rifle carried by | What appears to be the [[Norinco Type 56-1]] rifle carried by Soviet soldiers in the film. These rifles have the distinctive full-circle ("hooded") front sights of the Norinco, but have slant muzzle brakes of Soviet-made [[AK]] rifles. Most are fitted with bakelite magazines (rather than metal), and at least one seen near the end of the film is fitted with an [[AK-74]]-style muzzle brake in an attempt to imitate the Soviet armed forces' service rifle at the time. Colonel Valachev ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]) uses one of these rifles that's been fitted with what appears to be a mock-up of a [[GP-series grenade launcher|GP-25 Grenade launcher]]. | ||
[[Image:Type56MuzzleBrake.jpg|thumb|450px|none|A Norinco Type 56-1 (7.62x39mm) mocked up to look like an AKS-74, as in ''GoldenEye''.]] | [[Image:Type56MuzzleBrake.jpg|thumb|450px|none|A Norinco Type 56-1 (7.62x39mm) mocked up to look like an AKS-74, as in ''GoldenEye''.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|[[Norinco Type 56-1]] rifles are carried by | [[File:4thWar 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|[[Norinco Type 56-1]] rifles are carried by Soviet soldiers behind Colonel Valachev ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]).]] | ||
[[File:FourthWar-AK-GP- | [[File:FourthWar-AK-GP-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colonel Valachev ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]) raises his [[Norinco Type 56-1]] fitted with a mockup of [[GP-series grenade launcher|GP-25 Grenade launcher]] to fire.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 27.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colonel Valachev ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]) holds the [[Norinco Type 56-1]] that's been fitted with a mockup of [[GP-series grenade launcher|GP-25 Grenade launcher]].]] | [[File:4thWar 27.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colonel Valachev ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]) holds the [[Norinco Type 56-1]] that's been fitted with a mockup of [[GP-series grenade launcher|GP-25 Grenade launcher]].]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[GP-series grenade launcher|GP-25 Grenade launcher]] is seen underneath Valachev's rifle.]] | [[File:4thWar 23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[GP-series grenade launcher|GP-25 Grenade launcher]] is seen underneath Valachev's rifle.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 51.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A view of the AK-style slant muzzle brake fitted on the [[Norinco Type 56-1]] rifle.]] | [[File:4thWar 51.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A view of the AK-style slant muzzle brake fitted on the [[Norinco Type 56-1]] rifle.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 30.jpg|thumb|none|600px| | [[File:4thWar 30.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet soldiers ride with their rifles on armor in response to the fight.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 55.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The rifle seen here appears to be fitted with an [[AK-74]]-style muzzle brake. Note that behind the soldier holding the Type 56-1 is another soldier holding what appears to be a .308-caliber [[Valmet M78|Valmet M78A2]] with a thumbhole stock (here being used as a stand-in for an [[SVD]]).]] | [[File:4thWar 55.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The rifle seen here appears to be fitted with an [[AK-74]]-style muzzle brake. Note that behind the soldier holding the Type 56-1 is another soldier holding what appears to be a .308-caliber [[Valmet M78|Valmet M78A2]] with a thumbhole stock (here being used as a stand-in for an [[SVD]]).]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 35.jpg|thumb|none|600px| | [[File:4thWar 35.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Soviet soldiers aim their Norinco rifles. These rifles have the distinctive full-circle ("hooded") front sights of the Norinco, but AK-style slant muzzle brakes. These rifles also have been fitted with laser sights.]] | ||
=Machine Guns= | =Machine Guns= | ||
==Browning M2HB Heavy Machine Gun== | ==Browning M2HB Heavy Machine Gun== | ||
[[Browning M2]] HB machine guns are seen mounted on US Army | [[Browning M2]] HB machine guns are seen mounted on US Army APCs in the film. | ||
[[Image:BrowningM2HB.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]] | [[Image:BrowningM2HB.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|[[Browning M2]] HB machine guns are seen mounted on US Army | [[File:4thWar 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|[[Browning M2]] HB machine guns are seen mounted on US Army APCs in the film. According to Dale Dye, the military adviser on the film, the M113 APCs were borrowed from the Canadian military as the movie was filmed in Canada.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 31.jpg|thumb|none|600px|[[Browning M2]] HB machine gun on the US Army APC.]] | [[File:4thWar 31.jpg|thumb|none|600px|[[Browning M2]] HB machine gun on the US Army APC.]] | ||
=Grenades= | =Grenades= | ||
==M26 Hand Grenade== | ==M26 Hand Grenade== | ||
COL Knowles holds up an [[M26 hand grenade]] when confronting some | COL Knowles holds up an [[M26 hand grenade]] when confronting some Soviet soldiers. | ||
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M26 "Lemon" hand grenade.]] | [[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|150px|M26 "Lemon" hand grenade.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 61.jpg|thumb|none|600px|COL Knowles holds up an [[M26 hand grenade]] when confronting some | [[File:4thWar 61.jpg|thumb|none|600px|COL Knowles holds up an [[M26 hand grenade]] when confronting some Soviet soldiers.]] | ||
[[File:FourthWar-grenade-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Knowles holds the grenade in Valachev's vehicle.]] | [[File:FourthWar-grenade-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Knowles holds the grenade in Valachev's vehicle.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 50.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The grenade also seen in a vehicle.]] | [[File:4thWar 50.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The grenade also seen in a vehicle.]] | ||
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What appears to be a [[GP-series grenade launcher|GP-25 Grenade launcher]] is mounted underneath the [[Norinco Type 56-1]] rifle used by Colonel Valachev ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]). This launcher is clearly a fabricated mockup which likely uses shotgun shells or another form of blank, since the GP-25 was not available to film armorers in the West at the time that this movie was filmed. | What appears to be a [[GP-series grenade launcher|GP-25 Grenade launcher]] is mounted underneath the [[Norinco Type 56-1]] rifle used by Colonel Valachev ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]). This launcher is clearly a fabricated mockup which likely uses shotgun shells or another form of blank, since the GP-25 was not available to film armorers in the West at the time that this movie was filmed. | ||
[[Image:Gp-25 1.jpg|thumb|none|401px|GP-25 Grenade Launcher - 40mm]] | [[Image:Gp-25 1.jpg|thumb|none|401px|GP-25 Grenade Launcher - 40mm]] | ||
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[[File:FourthWar-AK-GP-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the [[Norinco Type 56-1]] in the hands of Colonel Valachev ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]) as he employs it for the first time. The mock-up [[GP-series grenade launcher|GP-25]] is clearly visible here.]] | |||
[[File:4thWar 27.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colonel Valachev ([[Jürgen Prochnow]]) pursues COL Knowles while carrying his Norinco Type 56-1 fitted with the GP-25 mock-up. Note the shape of the trigger guard, which indicates clearly that the weapon is a mock-up (compare to the picture of a real GP-25 above).]] | |||
[[File:4thWar 23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The grenade seen in the launcher.]] | [[File:4thWar 23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The grenade seen in the launcher.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Preparing to use the launcher.]] | [[File:4thWar 22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Preparing to use the launcher.]] | ||
==RPG-7== | ==RPG-7== | ||
The [[RPG-7]] mounted with a PGO-7 scope, is used by | The [[RPG-7]] mounted with a PGO-7 scope, is used by Soviet soldier during the final confrontation. | ||
[[File:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 - 40mm]] | [[File:Rpg-7-1-.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-7 - 40mm]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 29.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[File:4thWar 29.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
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== FIM-92A Stinger == | == FIM-92A Stinger == | ||
During a confrontation with | During a confrontation with Soviet forces at the German-Czech border early in the film, COL Knowles orders one of his soldiers to point an [[FIM-92A Stinger]] at the "Soviet" helicopter (actually an American Sikorsky S-58 painted in Soviet Army markings) which buzzes the armored column under his command. ''[[The Fourth War]]'' is one of the earliest movies to feature an actual FIM-92A Stinger instead of the earlier [[FIM-43 Redeye]] (''[[Fire Birds]]'', which also featured the Stinger, was released nearly two months after this movie). | ||
[[ | [[File:FIM-92 Stinger.jpg|400px|thumb|none|FIM-92A Stinger 70mm]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 38.jpg|thumb|none|600px|COL Knowles orders one of his soldiers to aim an [[FIM-92A Stinger]] at the " | [[File:4thWar 38.jpg|thumb|none|600px|COL Knowles orders one of his soldiers to aim an [[FIM-92A Stinger]] at the "Soviet" helicopter. Note that this Stinger, like most used in movies, features a genuine launch tube mated to a mock-up fire control unit with a demilled IFF antenna - it notably lacks the latch at the front to secure the fire control unit to the launch tube. The IR window also appears to be gone.]] | ||
=Helicopters and | =Helicopters and armor= | ||
During the final confrontation, | During the final confrontation, US and Soviet forces respond with many armored vehicles and helicopters. Some of the "Soviet" armored vehicles in this scene appear to have been originally built for ''[[Red Dawn]]''. | ||
[[File:4thWar 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Sikorsky S-58 fitted with mock-up rocket pods and painted in Soviet markings.]] | [[File:4thWar 01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Sikorsky S-58 fitted with mock-up rocket pods and painted in Soviet markings.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 44.jpg|thumb|none|600px|What is likely a mock-up of an LAV-25 (incorrect for | [[File:4thWar 44.jpg|thumb|none|600px|What is likely a mock-up of an LAV-25 (incorrect for the US Army at the time) built from a Canadian-origin GM AVGP Grizzly (the movie was filmed in Canada), while a Gazelle helicopter gunship (also not used by the US Army) buzzes nearby.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M113 APC fitted with a Browning M2; several Willys M38A1 jeeps trail behind | [[File:4thWar 04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M113 APC fitted with a Browning M2; several Willys M38A1 jeeps trail behind (note that in US military service, the Ford M151 "MUTT" had long replaced the M38 during the time in which the film takes place; by 1988, the M151 itself was being replaced by the HMMWV).]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 28.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M60A3 tank.]] | [[File:4thWar 28.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M60A3 tank.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 41.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mock-up of a T-72, likely the same one from ''[[Red Dawn]]'', but re-painted.]] | [[File:4thWar 41.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mock-up of a T-72, likely the same one from ''[[Red Dawn]]'', but re-painted.]] | ||
[[File:4thWar 45.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The " | [[File:4thWar 45.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The "Soviet" Sikorsky S-58 hovers over a mock-up BTR-60 and a mock-up BRDM-2 (both likely the same vehicles originally made for ''[[Red Dawn]]'').]] | ||
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The Fourth War is a 1990 drama directed by John Frankenheimer and starring Roy Scheider as Jack Knowles, a US Army Colonel and decorated Vietnam veteran who comes to be at odds with a Soviet colonel (Jürgen Prochnow) at the West German-Czechoslovakia border during the height of the Cold War in the late 1980s.
The following weapons were used in the film The Fourth War:
Handguns
Colt Combat Commander
Colonel Jack Knowles (Roy Scheider) carries a Colt Commander compact pistol as his sidearm in the film.
Beretta 92F
The Beretta 92F is seen in the hands of Colonel Valachev (Jürgen Prochnow).
Makarov PM
A Soviet soldier is seen with a Makarov PM.
Rifles
M16(SP1) with M16A2 handguards
An early M16/SP1 rifle fitted with A2-style round handguards is notably used by COL Knowles during his secret missions. This particular rifle is also fitted with an underbarrel laser sight. This particular laser-sighted M16 is also used briefly at the end of the film by Lt. Colonel Clark (Tim Reid) after he takes it from one of his men. At the time of filming, the US Army had recently adopted the M16A2.
M16A1 (w/ A2 style handguard)
The majority of the US soldiers in the film carry what appear to be M16A2-style rifles, but close inspection reveals that they are in fact carrying M16A1s with A2 style handguards.
Norinco Type 56-1
What appears to be the Norinco Type 56-1 rifle carried by Soviet soldiers in the film. These rifles have the distinctive full-circle ("hooded") front sights of the Norinco, but have slant muzzle brakes of Soviet-made AK rifles. Most are fitted with bakelite magazines (rather than metal), and at least one seen near the end of the film is fitted with an AK-74-style muzzle brake in an attempt to imitate the Soviet armed forces' service rifle at the time. Colonel Valachev (Jürgen Prochnow) uses one of these rifles that's been fitted with what appears to be a mock-up of a GP-25 Grenade launcher.
Machine Guns
Browning M2HB Heavy Machine Gun
Browning M2 HB machine guns are seen mounted on US Army APCs in the film.
Grenades
M26 Hand Grenade
COL Knowles holds up an M26 hand grenade when confronting some Soviet soldiers.
Launchers
M72 LAW
COL Jack Knowles (Roy Scheider) uses an M72 LAW to destroy a guard tower.
GP-25 Grenade launcher
What appears to be a GP-25 Grenade launcher is mounted underneath the Norinco Type 56-1 rifle used by Colonel Valachev (Jürgen Prochnow). This launcher is clearly a fabricated mockup which likely uses shotgun shells or another form of blank, since the GP-25 was not available to film armorers in the West at the time that this movie was filmed.
RPG-7
The RPG-7 mounted with a PGO-7 scope, is used by Soviet soldier during the final confrontation.
FIM-92A Stinger
During a confrontation with Soviet forces at the German-Czech border early in the film, COL Knowles orders one of his soldiers to point an FIM-92A Stinger at the "Soviet" helicopter (actually an American Sikorsky S-58 painted in Soviet Army markings) which buzzes the armored column under his command. The Fourth War is one of the earliest movies to feature an actual FIM-92A Stinger instead of the earlier FIM-43 Redeye (Fire Birds, which also featured the Stinger, was released nearly two months after this movie).
Helicopters and armor
During the final confrontation, US and Soviet forces respond with many armored vehicles and helicopters. Some of the "Soviet" armored vehicles in this scene appear to have been originally built for Red Dawn.
