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:::Single barrel shotgun is possibly an IZh-5 ([http://www.wikihunt.ru/%D0%98%D0%96-5]) [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:42, 22 October 2018 (EDT) | :::Single barrel shotgun is possibly an IZh-5 ([http://www.wikihunt.ru/%D0%98%D0%96-5]) [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:42, 22 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
::::A great thanks! I had corrected the page. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 12:24, 26 October 2018 (EDT) | ::::A great thanks! I had corrected the page. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 12:24, 26 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
:::::The bolt handle on that unknown rifle makes me think of the Berdan II. Could it be a mock up from earlier movies being used here? [[User:Black Irish Paddy|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy|talk]]) 13:31, 26 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
::::::It's possible as there was a lot of versions of converted Berdan. A shotgun, converted from Berdan carbine, could have such relatively short barrel, for example. But this gun seems to have a protruding magazine, and this makes a puzzle. I don't think that anybody would attach a fake magazine to "berdanka". The screen gun also bears some resemblance with French Berthier rifle (Mle 1907-16 has a magazine and straight bolt handle), but it's hardly a correct guess. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 13:44, 26 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
::::::Bolt is definitely not Berdan. Something tells me that it could be a military Mannlicher or Ross, converted into a sporter.--[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 13:47, 29 March 2020 (EDT) | |||
:::::::Sorry, I couldn't find any other appearence pf this rifle in this movie. Anywhere, many thanks for the help! [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 17:04, 29 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 17:47, 29 March 2020
My opinion:
- Rifle-1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 1-5 - the barrel seems too short and too thick for Frolovka, also a ramrod is seen below the barrel. The magazine too small for Mosin. TOZ-21 looks similar but it appeared only in 1958. No idea what it can be, need more research.
- Rifle-3-1 - nothing common with NK-8,2. Different shape of the stock, a groove that isn't seen on NK-8,2, no front sight. My guess is Frolovka.
- Rifle-2-1, 2-2 - Mauser Sporter is a possible guess but this rifle looks so slim... like a .22 caliber (only a guess).
- Rifle-4-1, 1-7 - not sure about Arisaka. The buttstock is placed on different angle and look more straight rather than semi-grip.
- Greg-Z (talk) 16:53, 21 October 2018 (EDT)
- Possibly, some of them are TOZ .22 Caliber Rifles? Pyramid Silent (talk) 18:14, 21 October 2018 (EDT)
- I couldn't find a TOZ of appropriate time that match screen gun. Most TOZ small caliber rifles have a bolt handle placed in front of the trigger. I think that you may ignore my grumble on Mauser Sporter. It's just a gut feeling that hardly can be proved. Greg-Z (talk) 01:34, 22 October 2018 (EDT)
- Single barrel shotgun is possibly an IZh-5 ([1]) Greg-Z (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2018 (EDT)
- A great thanks! I had corrected the page. Pyramid Silent (talk) 12:24, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
- The bolt handle on that unknown rifle makes me think of the Berdan II. Could it be a mock up from earlier movies being used here? Black Irish Paddy (talk) 13:31, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
- It's possible as there was a lot of versions of converted Berdan. A shotgun, converted from Berdan carbine, could have such relatively short barrel, for example. But this gun seems to have a protruding magazine, and this makes a puzzle. I don't think that anybody would attach a fake magazine to "berdanka". The screen gun also bears some resemblance with French Berthier rifle (Mle 1907-16 has a magazine and straight bolt handle), but it's hardly a correct guess. Greg-Z (talk) 13:44, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
- Bolt is definitely not Berdan. Something tells me that it could be a military Mannlicher or Ross, converted into a sporter.--Slon95 (talk) 13:47, 29 March 2020 (EDT)
- Sorry, I couldn't find any other appearence pf this rifle in this movie. Anywhere, many thanks for the help! Pyramid Silent (talk) 17:04, 29 October 2018 (EDT)
- The bolt handle on that unknown rifle makes me think of the Berdan II. Could it be a mock up from earlier movies being used here? Black Irish Paddy (talk) 13:31, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
- A great thanks! I had corrected the page. Pyramid Silent (talk) 12:24, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
- Single barrel shotgun is possibly an IZh-5 ([1]) Greg-Z (talk) 15:42, 22 October 2018 (EDT)
- I couldn't find a TOZ of appropriate time that match screen gun. Most TOZ small caliber rifles have a bolt handle placed in front of the trigger. I think that you may ignore my grumble on Mauser Sporter. It's just a gut feeling that hardly can be proved. Greg-Z (talk) 01:34, 22 October 2018 (EDT)