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==Glock non gun==
==Glock non gun==
During the climatic shoot-out at the brothel, one of the thugs send to ‘welcome’ Curtie is carrying what looks like a Glock non-gun, evidenced by the closed barrel and the crude finish. Since the gun is kicked from his hand martial-arts style, it is not surprising that a non-gun is used.  
During the climatic shoot-out at the brothel, one of the thugs send to ‘welcome’ Curtie is carrying what looks like a [[Glock]] non-gun, evidenced by the closed barrel and the crude finish. Since the gun is kicked from his hand martial-arts style, it is not surprising that a non-gun is used.  
[[Image:Glocknon-gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock Non Gun]]
[[Image:Glocknon-gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock Non Gun]]
[[Image:ElephantWhite-Glocknongun-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:ElephantWhite-Glocknongun-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A thug armed with a Glock non-gun.]]


=Submachine Guns=
=Submachine Guns=
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==M16A1 with M203 grenade launcher==
==M16A1 with M203 grenade launcher==
As a matter of last resort, Thai thugs who try to stop the fleeing Curtie, are employing an [[M16A1 with M203 Grenade Launcher]]. The shooter seems to be surprisingly skilled as he puts his first grenade right on top of the speeding van in which Curtie is leaving the scene.
As a matter of last resort, Thai thugs who try to stop the fleeing Curtie, are employing an [[M16A1]] with [[M203 Grenade Launcher]]. The shooter seems to be surprisingly skilled as he puts his first grenade right on top of the speeding van in which Curtie is leaving the scene.
[[Image:M16wM203.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 (5.56x45mm) with M203 40mm grenade launcher]]
[[Image:M16wM203.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 (5.56x45mm) with M203 40mm grenade launcher]]
[[Image:ElephantWhite-M16A1-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
[[Image:ElephantWhite-M16A1-01.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
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[[Image:ElephantWhite-cache2-04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From left to right: (1) [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]], (2) [[AK-47#AK-47|AK-47]] with synthetic foregrips, (3) [[Heckler & Koch G36C]], (4) [[MAC-10]] variant, (5) customized but unidentified [[M4/M4A1 Carbine|Knight's Armament SR-16 Carbine]] style sniper rifle with what looks like a Stoner logo on the receiver, maybe airsoft?, (6) [[Heckler & Koch PSG-1]].]]
[[Image:ElephantWhite-cache2-04.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From left to right: (1) [[Heckler & Koch MP5K]], (2) [[AK-47#AK-47|AK-47]] with synthetic foregrips, (3) [[Heckler & Koch G36C]], (4) [[MAC-10]] variant, (5) customized but unidentified [[M4/M4A1 Carbine|Knight's Armament SR-16 Carbine]] style sniper rifle with what looks like a Stoner logo on the receiver, maybe airsoft?, (6) [[Heckler & Koch PSG-1]].]]
[[Image:ElephantWhite-cache2-05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Faintly visible in the back: (1) [[Heckler & Koch MP5SD6]] and (2) [[Heckler & Koch HK53]].]]
[[Image:ElephantWhite-cache2-05.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Faintly visible in the back: (1) [[Heckler & Koch MP5SD6]] and (2) [[Heckler & Koch HK53]].]]
[[Image:ElephantWhite-cache2-07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From left to right: (1) [[Remington Model 870#Maruzen airsoft CA870 CQB|Maruzen airsoft CA870 CQB]], (2) [[Winchester Model 1897]] riot gun, (3) [[Sten Mk II]], (4) [[Heckler & Koch G36C]], (5) [[Barrett M82A1M]], (6) ???, (7) [[Benelli M4 Super 90]], (8) [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]], (9) [[FN P90#FN P90|FN P90]] with silencer, (10) unknown [[M4/M4A1 Carbine]] variant (see next image for more details) and (11) [[AK-47#AK-47|AK-47]].]]
[[Image:ElephantWhite-cache2-07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|From left to right: (1) [[Maruzen CA870 CQB]], (2) [[Winchester Model 1897]] riot gun, (3) [[Sten Mk II]], (4) [[Heckler & Koch G36C]], (5) [[Barrett M82A1M]], (6) ???, (7) [[Benelli M4 Super 90]], (8) [[Mossberg 500 Cruiser]], (9) [[FN P90#FN P90|FN P90]] with silencer, (10) unknown [[M4/M4A1 Carbine]] variant (see next image for more details) and (11) [[AK-47#AK-47|AK-47]].]]
[[Image:ElephantWhite-cache2-09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|And in the final corner:  (1) [[FN P90#FN P90|FN P90]] with silencer, (2) unknown [[M4/M4A1 Carbine]] variant, (3) modern [[AK-47#AK-47|AK-47]] with rails for accessories, (4) [[Heckler & Koch MP5SD6]], (5) rare [[Sten Mk II]] version with magazine well on bottom instead of left side, (6) [[Beretta 92FS Inox]], (7) [[M1911A1]], (8) [[SIG-Sauer P226]] and (9) ???.]]
[[Image:ElephantWhite-cache2-09.jpg|thumb|none|600px|And in the final corner:  (1) [[FN P90#FN P90|FN P90]] with silencer, (2) unknown [[M4/M4A1 Carbine]] variant, (3) modern [[AK-47#AK-47|AK-47]] with rails for accessories, (4) [[Heckler & Koch MP5SD6]], (5) rare [[Sten Mk II]] version with magazine well on bottom instead of left side, (6) [[Beretta 92FS Inox]], (7) [[M1911A1]], (8) [[SIG-Sauer P226]] and (9) ???.]]



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Elephant White (2010)

Elephant White is a 2010 action movie about mercenary Curtie Church (Djimon Hounsou) who takes up an assignment in the Thai capital of Bangkok to stop a ruthless gang of human traffickers. With the help of old-time friend and shady arms dealer Jimmy (Kevin Bacon) he enters the dark side of Bangkok, only to discover that nobody is who they say they are and that he’s right in the middle of a local mob war. The title refers to an apparent Thai belief that a white elephant, being very rare, brings luck. In one scene in the movie, Thai godfather Boss Katha offers a white coated elephant to an opposing godfather in a vain attempt to stop the gang war.

The following guns were used in the film Elephant White:


Handguns

Beretta 92FS

The Beretta 92FS is a prominent handgun in the movie, being used by most Thai thugs. It is seen in black, two-tone but in most cases the inox version is used.

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Beretta 92FS - 9x19mm
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During the grand finale, Curtie is holding a Beretta 92FS on Thai godfather Boss Katha in a standoff with his bodyguards.
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During a car chase, a thug is seen firing a Beretta 92FS from a car window.

M1911A1

Several M1911A1’s are being used by Curtie during his exploits in Bangkok but they don’t get much ‘screentime’ so good screenshots are rare.

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Colt M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP
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Curtie handing his M1911A1 to Jimmy in order to gain his trust and get access to Jimmy’s weapons cache. Note the excellent view of the grip safety.
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After a hit on a group of thugs, Curtie puts a M1911A1 in the hands of one of them in order to make the scene look like the result of an internal mob conflict.

SIG-Sauer P226

Another weapon of choice for Curtie is the SIG-Sauer P226. It is not seen fired and may be some kind of non-gun because on several occasions it is held close to actor’s faces and because of the incorrect/missing SIG inscription on the slide.

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SIG-Sauer P226 - 9x19mm
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Curtie checking his SIG-Sauer P226 before he embarks on yet another mission. Note the unusually small SIG inscription.
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Curtie holding the SIG-Sauer P226 on Jimmy. Note the lack of slide inscriptions and the fact that the slide appears to be a bit too short on the front; possible indications of a non-gun. Also, the decocking lever appears to be, for whatever reason, locked in the middle, which would not be possible on a real SIG.

Browning Hi-Power

During the shoot-out in front of the nightclub, a Thai gangster is seen firing a Browning Hi-Power with a ring hammer.

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Browning Hi-Power with ring hammer and wood grips - 9x19mm
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A Thai gangster shoots his Browning during the gunfight. The distinctive hammer, dust cover and takedown notch help differentiate it from the similar CZ-75. Note that this Browning appears to be a pre-1973 model because it does not appear to have an external extractor.

Colt XSE

During a car chase, one of the Thai thugs fires what appears to be a blued Colt XSE with an extended barrel, but it could also be that the image was taken just as the slide was locking back.

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Colt XSE with blued finish - .45 ACP
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The Thai thug shoots the XSE, circled in white.

Glock non gun

During the climatic shoot-out at the brothel, one of the thugs send to ‘welcome’ Curtie is carrying what looks like a Glock non-gun, evidenced by the closed barrel and the crude finish. Since the gun is kicked from his hand martial-arts style, it is not surprising that a non-gun is used.

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Glock Non Gun
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A thug armed with a Glock non-gun.

Submachine Guns

M1928 Thompson

When Jimmy gives Curtie a tour of his warehouse gun cache, he picks up a M1928 Thompson submachine gun elaborating on a future business venture that will focus on guns actually used in movies (sounds familiar?!?).

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M1928 " Tommy Gun" with 50-round drum magazine - .45 ACP
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”You ever hear of Pretty Boy Floyd? Not the bankrobber, the movie. This is the first piece I grabbed.”

Rifles

Remington 700 AICS

For his first assignment in Bangkok, Curtie chooses an Remington 700 AICS tactical rifle in olive drab version. He uses it with both a regular as well as with a night vision scope. In addition, he uses some kind of custom-made silencer but because it sits halfway down the barrel it’s probably a prop with the sole purpose to make the gun look cool.

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Remington 700 in AICS 1.5 stock with 10 round magazine - 7.62x51mm NATO
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Curtie testing the Remington 700 AICS in one of Jimmy’s gun caches. As a good customer, he’s displaying excellent trigger discipline.
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Curtie preparing for a night-time hit from his hide-out at the tower in the monastery. This shot has a good view of the night vision scope, with the switch correctly turned to ‘off’.
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Curtie facing attackers during the night-time shoot-out in the garden of the drug lord’s mansion. Again, the carrying sling is used for extra stability and the night vision scope proves it’s worth...
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While his mysterious associate Mae looks on, Curtie deals with a treat. Note how the carrying sling is wrapped around his hand for extra stability.

Barrett M82A1M

For his second assignment, Curtie picks a Barrett M82A1M from the impressive weapons cache that Jimmy keeps on board of the oriental junk moored in Bangkok harbor. Interestingly, it does not have the standard muzzle brake but rather a big suppressor that makes the rifle look even more massive than it already is.

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Barrett M82A1M - .50 BMG
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Curtie picking up the Barrett M82A1M for a closer inspection while Jimmy is doing his sales talk on the gun.
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A good angle on the massive Barrett M82A1M with Jimmy making his last offer. Note the stack of huge .50 BMG magazines underneath the gun, actually looking like bricks.
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A good action shot of Curtie taking out targets at Thai godfather Boss Katha’s mansion from a rooftop position. The gun blast at the end of the suppressor seems a bit odd and may have been added in post-production.
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Godfather Boss Katha inspecting the Barrett M82A1M in an attempt to determine who used it in the attack on his mansion. It seems inscriptions or serial numbers on the magazine well have been removed to cover the gun’s origins.

Norinco Type 56-1

Jimmy’s night club has a gambling joint where he likes to show off his weapon’s skills by betting with visitors how quick he is able to assemble an Norinco Type 56-1 assault rifle blindfolded. The rifle appears to be some kind of modified version because it has several Picatinny rails and does not have the traditional wooden grips but some kind of composite instead.

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Norinco Type 56-1 - 7.62x39mm
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The last bets are made as Jimmy goes along assembling the Norinco Type 56-1 on the gambling table.
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A good view of the all-black receiver of the Norinco Type 56-1 as Jimmy is about to insert the magazine in record time and win his bet.

M16A1

Curtie steals a M16A1 from a gunman on the rooftop to shoot a sniper on the next who is wielding a scoped M16A1.

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Colt M16A1 with 30 round magazine - 5.56x45mm
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Curtie fires a stolen M16A1 at the sniper

M16A1 with M203 grenade launcher

As a matter of last resort, Thai thugs who try to stop the fleeing Curtie, are employing an M16A1 with M203 Grenade Launcher. The shooter seems to be surprisingly skilled as he puts his first grenade right on top of the speeding van in which Curtie is leaving the scene.

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M16A1 (5.56x45mm) with M203 40mm grenade launcher
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Norinco QBZ-95

A scoped assault rifle is used by a Thai sniper trying to take out Curtie during one of his missions. The pronounced carrying handle, handguards and front sight post seem to give it away as an Norinco QBZ-95-style rifle.

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Norinco QBZ-95 with proprietary Y/MA 95-002 scope - 5.8x42mm
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The Thai sniper aims at Curtie with his Type 95.

Shotguns

SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper

For the brothel shootout, Curtie chooses a SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper to clear Rajahdon’s brothel. He manufactures an unidentified duckbeak-shaped device and affixes it to the barrel. Apart from making the shotgun look like a vacuum cleaner this device seems to make the spray of the shotgun shells wider, allowing him to hit more targets in the confined hallways.

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SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper with short barrel and top folding stock - 12 Gauge
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Curtie checking the SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper before he takes off for his final mission.
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Curtie making his way through the brothel. Note the strange device that he has attached to the barrel of his SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper.
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Curtie fires his SWD/Cobray Street Sweeper during the brothel shootout.

Miscellaneous

Gun cache in warehouse

When Curtie checks with Jimmy for the first time for ‘tools’, Jimmy takes him to his downtown warehouse. Here, Jimmy keeps a cache of predominantly historic weapons that he plans to use in a future business venture; a Hard Rock Café-style franchise which instead of guitars will have screen-used guns on the walls. It is possible that most wall-mounted guns are actually airguns or props.

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Jimmy giving Curtie a tour of his well-stocked warehouse. In this shot, the following guns are visible; (1) M1 Garand rifles, (2) several AK-47 type rifles, (3) a scoped M16A1 Rifle plus some unidentifiable revolvers on the ammunition crate on the left.
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”No! No! Wrong section, not for rent! Not just any M76, it was used by Lee Marvin in Prime Cut. He shot Gene Hackman with it, and I’ve got the papers to prove it. I am starting my own Planet Hollywood here, with all guns. It’s all genius, right?”
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This looks like the ‘left-over corner’ of the gun cache. Two guns are clearly visible; (1) a M1 Garand plus (2) what appears to be a rubber prop of an M16A1 Rifle with a visibly bend barrel cover. In the back, on the left, stands what looks like some kind of an anti-tank rifle but it cannot be clearly identified.
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”This (1) M1 was used by Clint himself in Pink Cadillac, (5) Grease Gun, Charlie Bronson, Dirty Dozen! I know it’s a franchise, right? All I need is a name. I was thinking, you know, “AK Cafe”, or “Gunzone” like “Funzone”, right?” (Also visible: (2) AK-47 rifle, (3) Accuracy International Arctic Warfare and (4) MAT-49 submachine gun.

Gun cache on junk

On a non-assuming junk in Bangkok harbor, Jimmy keeps a weapons cache that’s even more complete than the one in the warehouse. The place looks like a ‘gun candy store’, containing a wide array of historical and present-day pistols, rifles and everything in between. Here, again, it may be that most guns are props but there’s not enough detail to tell.

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From left to right: (1) Heckler & Koch MP5K, (2) AK-47 with synthetic foregrips, (3) Heckler & Koch G36C, (4) MAC-10 variant, (5) customized but unidentified Knight's Armament SR-16 Carbine style sniper rifle with what looks like a Stoner logo on the receiver, maybe airsoft?, (6) Heckler & Koch PSG-1.
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Faintly visible in the back: (1) Heckler & Koch MP5SD6 and (2) Heckler & Koch HK53.
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From left to right: (1) Maruzen CA870 CQB, (2) Winchester Model 1897 riot gun, (3) Sten Mk II, (4) Heckler & Koch G36C, (5) Barrett M82A1M, (6) ???, (7) Benelli M4 Super 90, (8) Mossberg 500 Cruiser, (9) FN P90 with silencer, (10) unknown M4/M4A1 Carbine variant (see next image for more details) and (11) AK-47.
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And in the final corner: (1) FN P90 with silencer, (2) unknown M4/M4A1 Carbine variant, (3) modern AK-47 with rails for accessories, (4) Heckler & Koch MP5SD6, (5) rare Sten Mk II version with magazine well on bottom instead of left side, (6) Beretta 92FS Inox, (7) M1911A1, (8) SIG-Sauer P226 and (9) ???.