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(Per the discussion below, this doesn't belong here. Should we get an article for the Ag m/42, we'll use its talk page and move the Rasheed to it)
 
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=Additional Variants=
=Additional Variants=
[[Image:OP-SKS-Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|OP-SKS, a civilian version of SKS - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:SKS with no bayonet.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SKS with no bayonet - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:OP-SKS.jpg|thumb|none|500px|OP-SKS with scope - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:Chinese SKS Paratrooper Sporter 7.62x39mm Carbine 16.5-inch barrel.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Norinco SKS-63 with a 20-inch barrel - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:SKS ATI Fiberforce Dragunov stock.jpg|none|500px|thumb|SKS with flash hider and ATI Fiberforce "Dragunov" stock - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:SKS ATI Fiberforce Dragunov stock.jpg|none|500px|thumb|SKS with flash hider and ATI Fiberforce "Dragunov" stock - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:Yugo SKS Choate stock.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Yugoslavian M59/66 SKS rifle with Choate stock - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:Yugo SKS Choate stock.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Zastava M59/66 SKS rifle with Choate stock - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:SKS ATI folding stock.jpg|thumb|500px|none|SKS with ATI Ultralight folding stock and telescopic sight - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:SKS ATI folding stock.jpg|thumb|500px|none|SKS with ATI Ultralight folding stock and telescopic sight - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:SKSMontage.jpg|thumb|500px|none|SKS Montage comparing three major types]]
[[File:Norinco SKS ATI Folding Stock.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Norinco SKS with ATI Ultralight folding stock and 30-round magazine - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:SKSMontage.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Comparison of the three main SKS types]]
[[File:SGWorks bullpup SKS.jpg|thumb|500px|none|SKS in an SGWorks bullpup stock - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:SKS Fab Defence UAS Stock.jpg|thumb|500px|none|SKS with Fab Defence UAS Stock  - 7.62x39mm]]


=Discussion=
=Discussion=
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:I'm pretty sure it wasn't. If you're looking for a Soviet automatic rifle in 7.62x54R, then wouldn't that be the SVT-40? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 18:49, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure it wasn't. If you're looking for a Soviet automatic rifle in 7.62x54R, then wouldn't that be the SVT-40? --[[User:Funkychinaman|funkychinaman]] 18:49, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::Only ever made in 7.62 x 39mm. There was a Simonov-designed rifle in 7.62 x 54mm called the AVS-36, but it was very different from the SKS. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]
::Only ever made in 7.62 x 39mm. There was a Simonov-designed rifle in 7.62 x 54mm called the AVS-36, but it was very different from the SKS. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]]


== Rasheed Carbine ==
== Rasheed Carbine ==
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: Well, we have weapons that only match in external aesthetic listed on the same page as others - The CETME Ameli on the MG42/MG3 page comes to mind, but to be fair that one externally looks ''exactly'' like a scaled down MG, so that's probably more the exception. I do think it's more common that there are separate pages for some variations even if they share design and appearance characteristics - But of course not always. Bah, I'll leave this one to actual decision-makers here. <BR><BR> PS - A simpler solution (in the interim) might be to just move that variant onto the talk page here, as it's only listing is a game page that isn't there. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:28, 22 April 2016 (EDT)
: Well, we have weapons that only match in external aesthetic listed on the same page as others - The CETME Ameli on the MG42/MG3 page comes to mind, but to be fair that one externally looks ''exactly'' like a scaled down MG, so that's probably more the exception. I do think it's more common that there are separate pages for some variations even if they share design and appearance characteristics - But of course not always. Bah, I'll leave this one to actual decision-makers here. <BR><BR> PS - A simpler solution (in the interim) might be to just move that variant onto the talk page here, as it's only listing is a game page that isn't there. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:28, 22 April 2016 (EDT)
::It's a bit of a moot point, since the Rasheed is no longer eligible for inclusion, but if it were to come back, I believe it should go on the AG-42 page. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:05, 22 April 2016 (EDT)
::It's a bit of a moot point, since the Rasheed is no longer eligible for inclusion, but if it were to come back, I believe it should go on the AG-42 page. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 15:05, 22 April 2016 (EDT)
== Custom Bullpup SKS ==
I found a few primary Russian sources on the gun, but I don't understand any of them since I don't speak Russian. [https://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/54/95823.html This is a guns.ru thread] about that particular bullpup SKS, and clicking into the links leads to YouTube videos showing the bullpup SKS [https://www.youtube.com/user/Temes740/videos?sort=da&view=0&flow=grid made by a man named Alexey Temes], including a production video of ''Na Igre'' where the gun appeared in. Can anybody who speak Russian translate some of the contents so we can know more about the gun? --[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 22:58, 10 November 2018 (EST)
== SKS-D with incorrect image ==
I've been re-reading the page, and it appears the SKS pictured in the section and for reference on Film pages isn't actually an SKS-D. It's a regular SKS fitted with a 30 round duckbill magazine. You can tell by the magazine catch. SKS-D and M models have an AK style paddle, rather than the little latch the regular ones have. Does anyone have access to an SKS-D to take a new, correct picture, or can we use a picture from an online source?

Latest revision as of 07:20, 23 September 2023


Additional Variants

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SKS with no bayonet - 7.62x39mm
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OP-SKS with scope - 7.62x39mm
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Norinco SKS-63 with a 20-inch barrel - 7.62x39mm
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SKS with flash hider and ATI Fiberforce "Dragunov" stock - 7.62x39mm
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Zastava M59/66 SKS rifle with Choate stock - 7.62x39mm
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SKS with ATI Ultralight folding stock and telescopic sight - 7.62x39mm
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Norinco SKS with ATI Ultralight folding stock and 30-round magazine - 7.62x39mm
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Comparison of the three main SKS types
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SKS in an SGWorks bullpup stock - 7.62x39mm
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SKS with Fab Defence UAS Stock - 7.62x39mm

Discussion

Was the SKS ever made in 7.62x54R?

WHY!?!?!?!? The SKS was built BECAUSE the Red Army needed a rifle to field the new intermediate round. Why on earth would they make their brand new design to FIRE the caliber they're trying to replace (as a main battle cartridge). MoviePropMaster2008
I'm pretty sure it wasn't. If you're looking for a Soviet automatic rifle in 7.62x54R, then wouldn't that be the SVT-40? --funkychinaman 18:49, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Only ever made in 7.62 x 39mm. There was a Simonov-designed rifle in 7.62 x 54mm called the AVS-36, but it was very different from the SKS. - Nyles

Rasheed Carbine

Isn't it incorrect to feature on this page? The Rasheed is a derivative of the Ljungman AG-42 and Hakim designs; it only resembles the SKS externally.

Well, we have weapons that only match in external aesthetic listed on the same page as others - The CETME Ameli on the MG42/MG3 page comes to mind, but to be fair that one externally looks exactly like a scaled down MG, so that's probably more the exception. I do think it's more common that there are separate pages for some variations even if they share design and appearance characteristics - But of course not always. Bah, I'll leave this one to actual decision-makers here.

PS - A simpler solution (in the interim) might be to just move that variant onto the talk page here, as it's only listing is a game page that isn't there. StanTheMan (talk) 14:28, 22 April 2016 (EDT)
It's a bit of a moot point, since the Rasheed is no longer eligible for inclusion, but if it were to come back, I believe it should go on the AG-42 page. --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:05, 22 April 2016 (EDT)

Custom Bullpup SKS

I found a few primary Russian sources on the gun, but I don't understand any of them since I don't speak Russian. This is a guns.ru thread about that particular bullpup SKS, and clicking into the links leads to YouTube videos showing the bullpup SKS made by a man named Alexey Temes, including a production video of Na Igre where the gun appeared in. Can anybody who speak Russian translate some of the contents so we can know more about the gun? --Wuzh (talk) 22:58, 10 November 2018 (EST)

SKS-D with incorrect image

I've been re-reading the page, and it appears the SKS pictured in the section and for reference on Film pages isn't actually an SKS-D. It's a regular SKS fitted with a 30 round duckbill magazine. You can tell by the magazine catch. SKS-D and M models have an AK style paddle, rather than the little latch the regular ones have. Does anyone have access to an SKS-D to take a new, correct picture, or can we use a picture from an online source?