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=Additional Images= | |||
[[File:SM DP-12 OD green.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Standard Manufacturing DP-12 (green) - 12 gauge]] | |||
=Discussion= | |||
==Is this bullpup or no?== | ==Is this bullpup or no?== | ||
I'm seeing some different descriptions. Some sources say it is bullpup, other sources don't. --[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 02:34, 1 October 2018 (EDT) | I'm seeing some different descriptions. Some sources say it is bullpup, other sources don't. --[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 02:34, 1 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
:IMHO, as magazines are placed in front of the trigger group (no matter that magazines are tube or box), this weapon cannot be classified as bullup. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:40, 1 October 2018 (EDT) P.S. The description of DP-12 on manufacturer's webcite doesn't use the term "bullpup". [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:46, 1 October 2018 (EDT) | :IMHO, as magazines are placed in front of the trigger group (no matter that magazines are tube or box), this weapon cannot be classified as bullup. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:40, 1 October 2018 (EDT) P.S. The description of DP-12 on manufacturer's webcite doesn't use the term "bullpup". [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:46, 1 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
::The important part is the feeding location, which looks to be right on top of the trigger group rather than behind it. It's allowable for a bullpup's magazine to extend forwards (see, for example, the [[Heckler & Koch G11]]), what matters is where the feed location is. That said, the gun's bolt group (two bolts plus sled) ''is'' behind the grip, so I guess you could say it's semi-bullpup or something. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 06:39, 1 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
:::Well, it's reasonable. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 07:07, 1 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
::::The KSG, UTS-15, Neostead, Mossberg bullpup and many others have magazines that extend ahead of the trigger unit; that’s just a byproduct of using tube magazines. --[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 08:57, 1 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
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Is this bullpup or no?
I'm seeing some different descriptions. Some sources say it is bullpup, other sources don't. --Wuzh (talk) 02:34, 1 October 2018 (EDT)
- IMHO, as magazines are placed in front of the trigger group (no matter that magazines are tube or box), this weapon cannot be classified as bullup. Greg-Z (talk) 02:40, 1 October 2018 (EDT) P.S. The description of DP-12 on manufacturer's webcite doesn't use the term "bullpup". Greg-Z (talk) 02:46, 1 October 2018 (EDT)
- The important part is the feeding location, which looks to be right on top of the trigger group rather than behind it. It's allowable for a bullpup's magazine to extend forwards (see, for example, the Heckler & Koch G11), what matters is where the feed location is. That said, the gun's bolt group (two bolts plus sled) is behind the grip, so I guess you could say it's semi-bullpup or something. Evil Tim (talk) 06:39, 1 October 2018 (EDT)
- Well, it's reasonable. Greg-Z (talk) 07:07, 1 October 2018 (EDT)
- The KSG, UTS-15, Neostead, Mossberg bullpup and many others have magazines that extend ahead of the trigger unit; that’s just a byproduct of using tube magazines. --AgentGumby (talk) 08:57, 1 October 2018 (EDT)
- Well, it's reasonable. Greg-Z (talk) 07:07, 1 October 2018 (EDT)
- The important part is the feeding location, which looks to be right on top of the trigger group rather than behind it. It's allowable for a bullpup's magazine to extend forwards (see, for example, the Heckler & Koch G11), what matters is where the feed location is. That said, the gun's bolt group (two bolts plus sled) is behind the grip, so I guess you could say it's semi-bullpup or something. Evil Tim (talk) 06:39, 1 October 2018 (EDT)