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I think he might be bump firing his pistol, [https://youtu.be/hicRl73Dsto like in this video]. Bump firing works better when you tilt the gun downwards and let gravity drop the trigger towards your finger, which is what happens here. --[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 01:05, 12 July 2018 (EDT) | I think he might be bump firing his pistol, [https://youtu.be/hicRl73Dsto like in this video]. Bump firing works better when you tilt the gun downwards and let gravity drop the trigger towards your finger, which is what happens here. --[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 01:05, 12 July 2018 (EDT) | ||
:This technique was also used (with the Beretta 92FS turned upside down) far more famously in the movie ''[[Hard Target]].'' Another movie I've seen that featured it was ''[[Street Knight]]'' (a movie starring [[Jeff Speakman]]) where the protagonist is seen using the same technique at the end of the film when he kills the main bad guy with his Beretta 92FS Inox. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 01:59, 14 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
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[[File:Sic2_202.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[Beretta 92FS]] is wielded by the masked gunman.]] | [[File:Sic2_202.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[Beretta 92FS]] is wielded by the masked gunman.]] | ||
[[Image:Beretta92Centurion.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92FS Centurion - 9x19mm]] | [[Image:Beretta92Centurion.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Beretta 92FS Centurion - 9x19mm]] | ||
:I don't think so. Look at how much the edge of the slide extends past the frame. It looks more like a regular 92FS with a cut down barrel, likely to reduce snag when drawing (we've also seen those in some other movies). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 15:14, 8 June 2019 (EDT) | |||
==My "Sicario" Daniel Defense M4A1 clone== | |||
Because I'm ridiculous: I decided to set up my [[Daniel Defense M4A1]] to resemble Matt Graver's ([[Josh Brolin]]'s) weapon from this movie: | |||
[[File:ISS_03.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The movie gun as it appears in a Vickers Tactical video from 2018]] | |||
[[Image:SicarioSoldadoBHS-DDM4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A screenshot from a behind-the-scenes vide of Josh Brolin holding the weapon]] | |||
[[Image:SicarioDDM4clone-1%28reduced%29.jpg|thumb|none|600px|My clone build (left side)]] | |||
[[Image:SicarioDDM4clone-2%28reduced%29.jpg|thumb|none|600px|My clone build (right side)]] | |||
[[Image:SicarioDDM4clone-3%28reduced%29.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Angled left-side view of my clone build]] | |||
I already had the DDM4 for some time, but this year, I finally bought (1.) an FDE EOTech 553 (not marked "SU-231", as the one in the movie doesn't appear to be an issue SU-231), (2.) a black Surefire M720V RAID, and (3.) Troy BUIS. Before I those accessories, I ran the gun with my Aimpoint PRO, an FDE Surefire 600DF, and Daniel Defense fixed iron sights. My gun is not a 100% clone, though. Key differences between my gun and the movie gun (at least as it appears in the Vickers Tactical video) are: (1.) I have a Daniel Defense vert grip, whereas the movie gun has a KAC "Broom Handle" grip, (2.) I'm running a Radian Raptor charging handle, whereas the movie gun just has the factory mil-spec charging handle (though I do still have the old one if I needed to replace and make the gun more "clone correct"), and (3.) I don't have the same backplate that's on the movie gun; it appears to have a CQD back plate replacing the factory QD back plate. Otherwise, I think I've probably created the first-ever clone of this gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 18:56, 10 August 2021 (EDT) | |||
::Very cool. I understand exactly. I own a [[Beretta 92FS]] and a [[Smith & Wesson Model 19]]. It took me a few years, but I finally acquired matching grips for both handguns so that they resemble the two carried in ''[[Lethal Weapon (1987)]]''. The only thing is that my Model 19 isn't Magna-Ported like the one carried by [[Danny Glover]]. Well that and my Beretta is actually a 92FS instead of a Beretta 92F, but close enough for government work. It's fun and if somebody needs it explained to them then they'll never understand. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 01:23, 11 August 2021 (EDT) | |||
:::I respect that, and I don't think that there's anything wrong with wanting to own guns you've seen in the media. I feel like there are too many folks in the firearms community who partake in virtue-signaling about buying a gun due to its appearance in popular media (whether that's movies, TV, video games, or - nowadays - social media influencers' channels) and try to shame those that do. Personally, though, I've never been ashamed of the fact that I have an interest in guns in the movies, which is why I am an IMFDB member in the first place. That being said, collecting firearms does make a pretty big dent in my wallet. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 23:05, 11 August 2021 (EDT) | |||
::Very true about the dent in one's budget. I don't pay attention to those people who try to shame one for buying a gun because they've seen it in the movies or television. It isn't all about preparing for the End Times. It's also about fun which they don't understand. I purchased a [[Smith & Wesson Model 28]] thanks to ''[[Payback]]'' and a [[Mauser C96]] (that one put a serious dent in my savings) because of numerous appearances in many movies, television shows and even comic books. On and that Model 28 led to me rediscovering my love of revolvers which my dad started me on way back in 1980. Good times. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 00:18, 12 August 2021 (EDT)- | |||
:::Interesting, the reason I want a 4" S&W Model 29-2 is because that was Porter's gun in ''[[Payback]]'' (not sure if you've seen the screen-used gun pics that I added to the movie's IMFDB page). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] ([[User talk:MT2008|talk]]) 18:37, 16 August 2021 (EDT) | |||
::Just saw them a couple days ago. Very nice addition to the page. I purchased this [[Savage 1907]] thanks to [[Jude Law]] using one in ''[[Road to Perdition]]''. The movie led to me researching the pistol and when the opportunity presented itself I purchased it. Actually I've purchased two of them. The first one came with the [[Smith & Wesson Safety Hammerless]] in an auction. The S&W was another movie inspired purchase. It's fun. Like I wrote earlier; some people don't do fun. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 19:51, 16 August 2021 (EDT) | |||
[[File:Savage07b.jpg|thumb|none|300px]] | |||
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Latest revision as of 02:00, 14 April 2023
Rapid Fire Beretta?
Has anyone seen this way of rapid firing a Beretta? --Ben41 (talk) 18:59, 20 December 2017 (EST)
- I've only ever seen this technique in shitposts....--AgentGumby (talk) 21:58, 20 December 2017 (EST)
I think he might be bump firing his pistol, like in this video. Bump firing works better when you tilt the gun downwards and let gravity drop the trigger towards your finger, which is what happens here. --Wuzh (talk) 01:05, 12 July 2018 (EDT)
- This technique was also used (with the Beretta 92FS turned upside down) far more famously in the movie Hard Target. Another movie I've seen that featured it was Street Knight (a movie starring Jeff Speakman) where the protagonist is seen using the same technique at the end of the film when he kills the main bad guy with his Beretta 92FS Inox. -MT2008 (talk) 01:59, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Maybe not Cartel gunmen
I have a sneaking suspicion that the scene where all the guys ambushing are not Cartel and they're actual US guys and Alejandro Excalibur01 (talk) 13:58, 27 December 2017 (EST)
-Looks like the recent trailer confirmed my suspicion Excalibur01 (talk) 14:15, 21 March 2018 (EDT)
Beretta Centurion
I think Alejandro's Beretta might be a Centurion. The barrel is clearly flat with the front of the slide, as it doesn't stick out.--Thomas (talk) 11:45, 29 September 2018 (EDT)
- I don't think so. Look at how much the edge of the slide extends past the frame. It looks more like a regular 92FS with a cut down barrel, likely to reduce snag when drawing (we've also seen those in some other movies). -MT2008 (talk) 15:14, 8 June 2019 (EDT)
My "Sicario" Daniel Defense M4A1 clone
Because I'm ridiculous: I decided to set up my Daniel Defense M4A1 to resemble Matt Graver's (Josh Brolin's) weapon from this movie:
I already had the DDM4 for some time, but this year, I finally bought (1.) an FDE EOTech 553 (not marked "SU-231", as the one in the movie doesn't appear to be an issue SU-231), (2.) a black Surefire M720V RAID, and (3.) Troy BUIS. Before I those accessories, I ran the gun with my Aimpoint PRO, an FDE Surefire 600DF, and Daniel Defense fixed iron sights. My gun is not a 100% clone, though. Key differences between my gun and the movie gun (at least as it appears in the Vickers Tactical video) are: (1.) I have a Daniel Defense vert grip, whereas the movie gun has a KAC "Broom Handle" grip, (2.) I'm running a Radian Raptor charging handle, whereas the movie gun just has the factory mil-spec charging handle (though I do still have the old one if I needed to replace and make the gun more "clone correct"), and (3.) I don't have the same backplate that's on the movie gun; it appears to have a CQD back plate replacing the factory QD back plate. Otherwise, I think I've probably created the first-ever clone of this gun. -MT2008 (talk) 18:56, 10 August 2021 (EDT)
- Very cool. I understand exactly. I own a Beretta 92FS and a Smith & Wesson Model 19. It took me a few years, but I finally acquired matching grips for both handguns so that they resemble the two carried in Lethal Weapon (1987). The only thing is that my Model 19 isn't Magna-Ported like the one carried by Danny Glover. Well that and my Beretta is actually a 92FS instead of a Beretta 92F, but close enough for government work. It's fun and if somebody needs it explained to them then they'll never understand. --Jcordell (talk) 01:23, 11 August 2021 (EDT)
- I respect that, and I don't think that there's anything wrong with wanting to own guns you've seen in the media. I feel like there are too many folks in the firearms community who partake in virtue-signaling about buying a gun due to its appearance in popular media (whether that's movies, TV, video games, or - nowadays - social media influencers' channels) and try to shame those that do. Personally, though, I've never been ashamed of the fact that I have an interest in guns in the movies, which is why I am an IMFDB member in the first place. That being said, collecting firearms does make a pretty big dent in my wallet. -MT2008 (talk) 23:05, 11 August 2021 (EDT)
- Very true about the dent in one's budget. I don't pay attention to those people who try to shame one for buying a gun because they've seen it in the movies or television. It isn't all about preparing for the End Times. It's also about fun which they don't understand. I purchased a Smith & Wesson Model 28 thanks to Payback and a Mauser C96 (that one put a serious dent in my savings) because of numerous appearances in many movies, television shows and even comic books. On and that Model 28 led to me rediscovering my love of revolvers which my dad started me on way back in 1980. Good times. --Jcordell (talk) 00:18, 12 August 2021 (EDT)-
- Just saw them a couple days ago. Very nice addition to the page. I purchased this Savage 1907 thanks to Jude Law using one in Road to Perdition. The movie led to me researching the pistol and when the opportunity presented itself I purchased it. Actually I've purchased two of them. The first one came with the Smith & Wesson Safety Hammerless in an auction. The S&W was another movie inspired purchase. It's fun. Like I wrote earlier; some people don't do fun. --Jcordell (talk) 19:51, 16 August 2021 (EDT)