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'''''See [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_1]], [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_2]], [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_3]] [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_4]] [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_5]], [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_6]], or [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_7]] for older discussions''''':
'''''See [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 11]], [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 12]] for older discussions''''':  


==Happy 2023==
Happy New Year's to all. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 21:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC)


== 2018 ==
== I guess, I made ID of Thark Rifle in John Carter movie ==


Happy New Year, everybody! Here's to another great year of guns, movies, and more. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 00:29, 1 January 2018 (EST) P.S.: This time, I'm first.
At the ''[[John Carter (2012)|John Carter]]'' movie, most Tharks (Green Martian clan) use Thark Martian rifles. Of course, it was futurised guns, but, after closing inspection of the original movie props, I notice, that's this futusistic rifles were made from [[Tanegashima]]s (of course, a modern replicas). For proving this guess, I made a photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. So, I guess, that's useful to ID the gun as Tanegashma. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 13:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
:Happy Easter <3 [[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 05:22, 1 January 2018 (EST)
[[Image:Thark rifle photoshop.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. The serpent for the match and closing powderbox (1), which is almost similar on the Tanegashima and Thark rifle. The pistol-grip buttstock (2) which is also almost similar. Of course, the movie prop is equipped with some part of other guns (percussion hammer) as well as some junks, to look more futuristic, as well, it's sawn in half, but the basing gun is Tanegashima.]]


== Pulling a grenade pin with your teeth ==
==Smiling Friends page?==
The western animation series Smiling Friends has quite a few realistically-drawn firearms which I documented on my sandbox [[User:Dnkakusei/Sandbox#Smiling_Friends_.5B2022-ongoing.2C_USA.5D|here]]. I would just like to know if the show qualifies for a page on this site. --[[User:Dnkakusei|Dnkakusei]] ([[User talk:Dnkakusei|talk]]) 13:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)


Many pages point out how pulling a grenade pin with your teeth in real life would cause dental damage. So, why is it easier to do in movies? Prop grenade uses different material?--[[User:Thomas|Thomas]] ([[User talk:Thomas|talk]]) 13:55, 9 January 2018 (EST)
== Delete category backlog ==
:It's a split / cotter pin, you can bend the split ends back together to make it easier to pull, with the qualifier that it makes it easier to pull when you ''don't'' want to, too. Obviously with an explosive device that you're carrying, you don't generally want to be able to pull the pin out easily (there's a scene in ''[[The_Thin_Red_Line#MK_II_Hand_Grenade|The Thin Red Line]]'' based on this, in fact). [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 14:22, 9 January 2018 (EST)
::Maybe, I'm wrong, but, according [https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Граната#Распространённые_мифы_о_ручной_гранате Russian wikipedia], hand grenade's fuze contain two safeties (known in Russian as ''Usiki''), which completely blocked any moving the of pin. After this safeties were removed, the pin may be much more easily removed (which result to grenade activating and explosion after a few seconds). But, I don't know, is this a correct information or not. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 15:18, 9 January 2018 (EST)
:::I'm using Google Translate, but that seems to be talking about what I'm talking about. Here, I've got a grenade cutaway with a working pin, I'll show you.
:::[[Image:Grenade pin demo.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
:::Left is the pin split open like it would be on a live grenade, right is how it flattens out after being pulled (you have to have flatten it slightly more to put it back in, even). On the right it's only held in place by the upward pressure of the spoon, and takes almost no force to pull out, the left I actually bent the pull ring a little pulling it out. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 16:42, 9 January 2018 (EST)
::::The Russian wiki is just talking about the idea that you can straighten the split ring to make it easier to pull out. However there are some grenade that actually have multiple safeties or clips. For example, the M61 was an M26 that had an extra safety clip that kept the spoon in place even if you pulled the pin out. There are also other grenade where the pin itself is more complicated, like the [[L109 hand grenade]] where the ring of the pin is folded out of the way and clipped in place so the pin cant physically move out, or the [http://www.specialistauctions.net/uplimg/mb130918_9e406b4e720225a77615c1db780441f4_mainpic.jpg L83] smoke grenade where the pin is kind of like a safety pin with a second leg that hooks behind the main pin which must be unhooked before ring can be pulled.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:36, 9 January 2018 (EST)
:::::Yeah, the M84 flashbang has a second pin, too. But still, let's stay simple here, the answer in live-action film is that the pin's been straightened out. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 17:59, 9 January 2018 (EST)


== Some assistance to check out the page for any unidentified weapons. ==
Just want to holler at the mod/s just in case. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 07:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
: Got more screenshots from Detective Conan marked for deletion since Netflix Japan's able to get remastered episodes out and I'm slowly using them to update pages here. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 01:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
:: Got more stuff for deletion. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 06:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)


Happy New Year folks. I'm working on [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Black_Lagoon:_Roberta%27s_Blood_Trail this], but I got some missing info on some of the small arms used. Need another pair of eyes to check. Thanks. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 08:52, 10 January 2018 (EST)
== Blue Muzzle Flashes ==


== Registration ==
Something I have noticed with classic action films, mostly within the 80's era, is that a lot of muzzle flashes appear more blue than yellow. Did this have something to do with the type of blanks/props that were being used back then, or was this just a result of 1980's cinematography? --[[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 12:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)


It says forum registration has been disabled and I can't register. Am I missing a step to join or was there too much spam? --[[User:H3nry8adger1982|H3nry8adger1982]] ([[User talk:H3nry8adger1982|talk]]) 18:43, 18 January 2018 (EST)H3nry8adger1982
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== Doing a gun article on the ballistic knife pistol ==
== Monsters vs Aliens? ==


Is it fine to do so? At least shows here have used it, but it's from anime. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 01:30, 27 January 2018 (EST)
Should we add a page about Monsters vs Aliens, the movie has some detailed guns like the M4 Carbine
:If you mean something like the Soviet NRS-2 Scout Firing Knife that fires actual bullets then sure, for just generic spring knives no because they aren't firearms. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 02:01, 27 January 2018 (EST)
:: Gotcha. The ones in the show don't have any clues on the manufacturer, but they're based on actual BKPs. So I'll just give a generic title except for the NRS-2.[[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 02:52, 27 January 2018 (EST)


== 6P62 ==
== Prodigal Son - Season 2, Unknown semi-auto pistol ==


Out of curiosity, the 6P62 Russian experimental anti-material rifle was intended as a portable machine gun, but with that 12.7x108mm round (albeit with a blatant 14-round magazine capacity), what would it classify exactly as? A GPMG or a unique form of man-portable heavy MG? (lol) --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 05:59, 27 January 2018 (EST)
I believe have a positive ID on the "unknown" semi-auto pistol listed for Prodigal Son - Season 2.
:Its official classification is "Ruchnoy krupnokaliberny pulemyot" - literally "handheld large caliber machine gun", or (an oxymoron!) "light heavy machine gun". [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 06:21, 27 January 2018 (EST)
::Absurd. That's what you call it. Or maybe just stupid. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 09:05, 27 January 2018 (EST)
:::They could have likely meant "handheld heavy machine gun". Now, GPMGs mostly fire full-sized rifle rounds in addition to being man-portable, but the 6P62's round is bigger. So... final verdict: portable HMG? (one of the very few real ones) --[[User:Ultimate94ninja|Ultimate94ninja]] ([[User talk:Ultimate94ninja|talk]]) 15:03, 31 January 2018 (EST)


== Tracking new articles made in contribution page ==
I requested an account specifically to help with this ID but I don't understand how to correctly add this info


Not sure about this, but does a registered user like mua have a way of keeping track of finding how many pages I made are new (The one with the ''N'' symbol)? [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 04:34, 28 January 2018 (EST)
If someone could vet this and add it, I'd appreciate it!
:If you add your new articles in your watchlist, then "View and edit watchlist" in "My watchlist" section would be useful. If not... then I can suggest only manual listing in "My contrubution", choosing Namespace: Main (this option would exclude the list of uploaded files). Sorry, no more ideas. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 06:40, 28 January 2018 (EST)


== P226 full size? ==
Prodigal Son - S02E10, "Exit Strategy". At approx 34m:30s, Felix (spoiler: Clayton Fielder's twin) climbs a staircase while brandishing, then racking, a silver-tone semi-auto I identify as a TriStar P-120 (CZ75 clone). It's later seen several times from virtually every conceivable angle starting around 38:10.


Saw this when I was taking snapshot of Counterpart. Do need a second look [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:CounterpartS01E02_05.jpg here]. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 23:49, 22 March 2018 (EDT)
:I checked it and I think you're right, so I did make all the necessary changes. By the way, don't forget to put your nickname and time in all discussions using 4 "~" at the end of each post. [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 15:30, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
: That is definitely a full size P226 given both the longer slide and hooked trigger guard. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 16:18, 23 March 2018 (EDT)


== Pistol-Caliber Carbines ==
: Thank you!


So, yeah. These things are kind of a mess when it comes to classification. You can't really put them under pistols, because they rather obviously aren't, but you can't put them under submachine guns either, because they aren't full-auto, and they really can't be grouped with rifles either, because those generally fire rifle rounds, not handgun rounds. So, is there any really good way to deal with these? So far, the best answer I've heard is to just put them with the SMGs and then point out that they aren't full-auto, but if there are any other ideas out there that could work, I'm open to those too.
Therealnecroscope, 06:35, 6 June 2023
 
(Testing nic/time)
[[User:Therealnecroscope|Therealnecroscope]] ([[User talk:Therealnecroscope|talk]]) 10:35, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 
==White M18 grenade==
Are white M18 smoke grenade only seen in TV/movies/games? Been seeing some of those. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 17:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
:I don't think they come in white IRL. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
 
==Stunt/action choreography for a director's page==
On the page for stunt choreographer and two-time film director [[Kensuke Sonomura]], I've added a list of films and games that he contributed stunt direction and choreography to. I'm planning on fully adding these productions to his category, but I was told to ask an admin first because stunt coordination is a pretty niche credit, however I believe that these productions should be added to his category as stunt and action sequences are vital and important parts of these films and games. Is it safe to add the pages? --[[User:Dnkakusei|Dnkakusei]] ([[User talk:Dnkakusei|talk]]) 12:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
 
==Firearm citations without screen grabs?==
I am new here, and I have not seen any guidelines about whether it's okay to cite a firearm in a movie listing without an associated screen grab. Is it better to have a weapon identified, even without a photo? ... or is it really better to make sure that each citation includes corresponding screen grabs? --[[User:226X5-9-TAC|226X5-9-TAC]] ([[User talk:226X5-9-TAC|talk]]) 23:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC).
:First off, welcome aboard. As for your question, if it's a pre-existing page, then pointing out a specific gun that doesn't already have a screencap is fine, as long as you're specific about when and where it appears (though having a screencap is always preferable). If it's for a page that doesn't exist yet, we'd prefer not - we have an excess of pages without screencaps as-is. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 23:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 
== Identifying revolver ==
 
What type of revolver is this? Film is from 1938. [[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 17:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 
[[File:L&HTroubles Revolver 1.jpg|thumb|600px|none|]]
: Not really a detailed enough shot to tell much. Appears to be a mid-size, .38 or therabouts. Ejector rod looks rather long which makes me think it has a socket, which would make it a S&W. If so, likely a  Military & Police model. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 17:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 
==NCIS Sydney==
Should I wait until the episode/s airing in Australia in the last few weeks this month are accessible in Canada/US next month (January 2024) before screencapping, even though the show's backed by CBS and Paramount Plus? [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 10:05, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
 
== Happy New Year! (2024) ==
 
Happy New Year to all IMFDB and may this year be prolific in page editing too!--[[User:Dannyguns|Dannyguns]] ([[User talk:Dannyguns|talk]]) 08:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 08:57, 1 January 2024

See Talk:Main Page/Archive 1, Talk:Main Page/Archive 2, Talk:Main Page/Archive 3, Talk:Main Page/Archive 4, Talk:Main Page/Archive 5, Talk:Main Page/Archive 6, Talk:Main Page/Archive 7, Talk:Main Page/Archive 8, Talk:Main Page/Archive 9, Talk:Main Page/Archive 10, Talk:Main Page/Archive 11, Talk:Main Page/Archive 12 for older discussions:

Happy 2023

Happy New Year's to all. --Ben41 (talk) 21:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

I guess, I made ID of Thark Rifle in John Carter movie

At the John Carter movie, most Tharks (Green Martian clan) use Thark Martian rifles. Of course, it was futurised guns, but, after closing inspection of the original movie props, I notice, that's this futusistic rifles were made from Tanegashimas (of course, a modern replicas). For proving this guess, I made a photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. So, I guess, that's useful to ID the gun as Tanegashma. Pyramid Silent (talk) 13:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

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A photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. The serpent for the match and closing powderbox (1), which is almost similar on the Tanegashima and Thark rifle. The pistol-grip buttstock (2) which is also almost similar. Of course, the movie prop is equipped with some part of other guns (percussion hammer) as well as some junks, to look more futuristic, as well, it's sawn in half, but the basing gun is Tanegashima.

Smiling Friends page?

The western animation series Smiling Friends has quite a few realistically-drawn firearms which I documented on my sandbox here. I would just like to know if the show qualifies for a page on this site. --Dnkakusei (talk) 13:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Delete category backlog

Just want to holler at the mod/s just in case. Ominae (talk) 07:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Got more screenshots from Detective Conan marked for deletion since Netflix Japan's able to get remastered episodes out and I'm slowly using them to update pages here. Ominae (talk) 01:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Got more stuff for deletion. Ominae (talk) 06:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Blue Muzzle Flashes

Something I have noticed with classic action films, mostly within the 80's era, is that a lot of muzzle flashes appear more blue than yellow. Did this have something to do with the type of blanks/props that were being used back then, or was this just a result of 1980's cinematography? --Theakker3 (talk) 12:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

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Monsters vs Aliens?

Should we add a page about Monsters vs Aliens, the movie has some detailed guns like the M4 Carbine

Prodigal Son - Season 2, Unknown semi-auto pistol

I believe have a positive ID on the "unknown" semi-auto pistol listed for Prodigal Son - Season 2.

I requested an account specifically to help with this ID but I don't understand how to correctly add this info

If someone could vet this and add it, I'd appreciate it!

Prodigal Son - S02E10, "Exit Strategy". At approx 34m:30s, Felix (spoiler: Clayton Fielder's twin) climbs a staircase while brandishing, then racking, a silver-tone semi-auto I identify as a TriStar P-120 (CZ75 clone). It's later seen several times from virtually every conceivable angle starting around 38:10.

I checked it and I think you're right, so I did make all the necessary changes. By the way, don't forget to put your nickname and time in all discussions using 4 "~" at the end of each post. Pustelga7 (talk) 15:30, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
Thank you!

Therealnecroscope, 06:35, 6 June 2023

(Testing nic/time) Therealnecroscope (talk) 10:35, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

White M18 grenade

Are white M18 smoke grenade only seen in TV/movies/games? Been seeing some of those. Ominae (talk) 17:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

I don't think they come in white IRL. --Funkychinaman (talk) 18:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Stunt/action choreography for a director's page

On the page for stunt choreographer and two-time film director Kensuke Sonomura, I've added a list of films and games that he contributed stunt direction and choreography to. I'm planning on fully adding these productions to his category, but I was told to ask an admin first because stunt coordination is a pretty niche credit, however I believe that these productions should be added to his category as stunt and action sequences are vital and important parts of these films and games. Is it safe to add the pages? --Dnkakusei (talk) 12:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Firearm citations without screen grabs?

I am new here, and I have not seen any guidelines about whether it's okay to cite a firearm in a movie listing without an associated screen grab. Is it better to have a weapon identified, even without a photo? ... or is it really better to make sure that each citation includes corresponding screen grabs? --226X5-9-TAC (talk) 23:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC).

First off, welcome aboard. As for your question, if it's a pre-existing page, then pointing out a specific gun that doesn't already have a screencap is fine, as long as you're specific about when and where it appears (though having a screencap is always preferable). If it's for a page that doesn't exist yet, we'd prefer not - we have an excess of pages without screencaps as-is. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 23:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Identifying revolver

What type of revolver is this? Film is from 1938. Theakker3 (talk) 17:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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Not really a detailed enough shot to tell much. Appears to be a mid-size, .38 or therabouts. Ejector rod looks rather long which makes me think it has a socket, which would make it a S&W. If so, likely a Military & Police model. StanTheMan (talk) 17:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

NCIS Sydney

Should I wait until the episode/s airing in Australia in the last few weeks this month are accessible in Canada/US next month (January 2024) before screencapping, even though the show's backed by CBS and Paramount Plus? Ominae (talk) 10:05, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy New Year! (2024)

Happy New Year to all IMFDB and may this year be prolific in page editing too!--Dannyguns (talk) 08:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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