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Seems like Krnka to me, could be one of those shotgun conversions since I can't make out a rear sight in the image. [[User:Black Irish Paddy|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy|talk]]) 14:16, 24 March 2018 (EDT) | Seems like Krnka to me, could be one of those shotgun conversions since I can't make out a rear sight in the image. [[User:Black Irish Paddy|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy|talk]]) 14:16, 24 March 2018 (EDT) | ||
:It's possible, thanks, but I'm still in doubt as the block lever would be seen, it is large, and this gun looks more like percussion cap musket (or rifled musket), as for me. I'll try to make more screenshots. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 14:24, 24 March 2018 (EDT) | :It's possible, thanks, but I'm still in doubt as the block lever would be seen, it is large, and this gun looks more like percussion cap musket (or rifled musket), as for me. I'll try to make more screenshots. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 14:24, 24 March 2018 (EDT) | ||
:Sorry, the only seconds when this gun is seen are already on page. I tend to think that this is a percussion cap gun, maybe (with great care) we can assume that this is Russian percussion cap rifled musket (vintovka) M1856. Krnka rifle was a conversion of M1856 so they have very similar outlook. Or it can be a hunting percussion cap musket with military style handguard; such guns were very popular on periphery of Russian Empire where people tend to be poorer and couldn't afford modern breach-loading hunting gun. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 16:00, 25 March 2018 (EDT) | |||
::That makes sense to me, the old Sniders from Britain and surplus Trapdoors as well as the various french Tabatieres, Chassepots, and Gras were turned into sporting rifles and shotguns. The parts would be cheap and demand would keep them around for some time. Not to mention those muskets are the easiest shotgun conversions on earth just bore out the rifling and there you go. I think it would likely be a Russian musket possibly dressed up with surplus Krnka furniture, the barrel bands just seem Krnka like to me, although the stock seems to be sanded or worn down thinner than a normal Krnka. I think you're right on it being a hunting rifle or shotgun. [[User:Black Irish Paddy|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy|talk]]) 16:44, 25 March 2018 (EDT) | |||
==Winchester 1866== | ==Winchester 1866== | ||
Looks like a Musket variation in the first pic and a Carbine in the second, I'd bet on capture from the Ottomans. Just an interesting note. If only guns could talk. [[User:Black Irish Paddy|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy|talk]]) 14:51, 25 March 2018 (EDT) | Looks like a Musket variation in the first pic and a Carbine in the second, I'd bet on capture from the Ottomans. Just an interesting note. If only guns could talk. [[User:Black Irish Paddy|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy|talk]]) 14:51, 25 March 2018 (EDT) | ||
:Thanks a lot, I updated this section and added Musket sample. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:54, 25 March 2018 (EDT) | :Thanks a lot, I updated this section and added Musket sample. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 15:54, 25 March 2018 (EDT) | ||
Latest revision as of 20:44, 25 March 2018
Special Thanks
The idea and screenshots are provided by AVSniff, forum.guns.ru. Greg-Z (talk) 13:21, 24 March 2018 (EDT)
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Nagant M1895
Unknown Rifle
Seems like Krnka to me, could be one of those shotgun conversions since I can't make out a rear sight in the image. Black Irish Paddy (talk) 14:16, 24 March 2018 (EDT)
- It's possible, thanks, but I'm still in doubt as the block lever would be seen, it is large, and this gun looks more like percussion cap musket (or rifled musket), as for me. I'll try to make more screenshots. Greg-Z (talk) 14:24, 24 March 2018 (EDT)
- Sorry, the only seconds when this gun is seen are already on page. I tend to think that this is a percussion cap gun, maybe (with great care) we can assume that this is Russian percussion cap rifled musket (vintovka) M1856. Krnka rifle was a conversion of M1856 so they have very similar outlook. Or it can be a hunting percussion cap musket with military style handguard; such guns were very popular on periphery of Russian Empire where people tend to be poorer and couldn't afford modern breach-loading hunting gun. Greg-Z (talk) 16:00, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
- That makes sense to me, the old Sniders from Britain and surplus Trapdoors as well as the various french Tabatieres, Chassepots, and Gras were turned into sporting rifles and shotguns. The parts would be cheap and demand would keep them around for some time. Not to mention those muskets are the easiest shotgun conversions on earth just bore out the rifling and there you go. I think it would likely be a Russian musket possibly dressed up with surplus Krnka furniture, the barrel bands just seem Krnka like to me, although the stock seems to be sanded or worn down thinner than a normal Krnka. I think you're right on it being a hunting rifle or shotgun. Black Irish Paddy (talk) 16:44, 25 March 2018 (EDT)
Winchester 1866
Looks like a Musket variation in the first pic and a Carbine in the second, I'd bet on capture from the Ottomans. Just an interesting note. If only guns could talk. Black Irish Paddy (talk) 14:51, 25 March 2018 (EDT)