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::::::::By Jove, you're right! I should only care about bigotry and racism when it effects ''me!'' Why didn't I see it before?--[[User:Godzillafan93|A Jaded Lizard]] ([[User talk:Godzillafan93|talk]]) 17:22, 5 February 2018 (EST) | ::::::::By Jove, you're right! I should only care about bigotry and racism when it effects ''me!'' Why didn't I see it before?--[[User:Godzillafan93|A Jaded Lizard]] ([[User talk:Godzillafan93|talk]]) 17:22, 5 February 2018 (EST) | ||
:::::::::My gosh, y’all are turning IMFDB into Tumblr(or some other leftist site) by trying to make every little thing racist. Dear goodness.--[[User:AK-74Fan|AK-74Fan]] ([[User talk:AK-74Fan|talk]]) 18:06, 5 February 2018 (EST) | :::::::::My gosh, y’all are turning IMFDB into Tumblr(or some other leftist site) by trying to make every little thing racist. Dear goodness.--[[User:AK-74Fan|AK-74Fan]] ([[User talk:AK-74Fan|talk]]) 18:06, 5 February 2018 (EST) | ||
::::::::::My God, you point out someone should probably come up with a better abbreviation than a racial slur, and suddenly you're a card carrying member of ANTIFA. I really don't understand why this is such a hard concept to grasp, or why telling people not to be racist is so upsetting. --[[User:Godzillafan93|A Jaded Lizard]] ([[User talk:Godzillafan93|talk]]) 18:08, 5 February 2018 (EST) | |||
:::::::::::It's the "accusing people of being racists and bigots" part. You know, that's kind of a major thing you shouldn't accuse people of over a word which in context clearly isn't a racial slur (being as the dot at the end makes it clear that the word is part of a larger word and the Japanese that follows shows it is not a reference to race) and which hasn't offended anyone. At most it's a bit of phrasing you don't personally like, you don't get to invoke hypothetical people to bolster your point and declare it racist if we don't respect the desires of those people you just invented. Now stop this nonsense, this is not the place for moral grandstanding. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 19:14, 5 February 2018 (EST) | |||
:::::::::::: What a load of self-important and downright unwarranted bitching. That said, I'd say it's lofty indeed to be talking anyone down about cultural sensitivity given [http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Resident_Evil:_Afterlife&diff=prev&oldid=755893 some remarks you've made in the past - Show this to any women, by chance?] Then again perhaps you weren't trying to be some sexist son of a bitch and instead were just making a dumb remark - rather like whoever put the 'jap.' wasn't trying trying to be some racist son of a bitch but rather simply made an unnecessary shorthand. Both had the proper thing done to them, that was removal. Removal because they added nothing. That's it. Anything more is making a stink for the sake of it, end of. Yeah you have a point about racial slurs, but what you're clearly failing at here is understanding the point that context and intent ''does'' matter and to get all worked up when it's plainly not called for is just outing yourself as some SJW-type roaming around looking for some kind of 'wrong' to be 'righted' - And as Tim said, we're not here for that. For the record, nothing peeves me more on here than people spending so much effort on something that is NOT the point of this site. Bottom line the comment is gone and I agree it was NOT a slur and NOT made in offense whatsoever so your whole ire is moot. Now if you disagree and truly think we're here to be a bunch of supposed bigots, no one's making you stay. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:20, 5 February 2018 (EST) |
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Unnecessary comments
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Shorthands
"jap." immediately before words in Japanese is about as offensive as "rus." before something in Russian, it's only going to offend people who make being offended their life's work, since it's obvious from context that it's referring to the Japanese language rather than Japanese people. Evil Tim (talk)
- JPN is the preferred abbreviation for Japanese in American English, given that "Jap" has unfortunate racist undertones thanks to WWII here (sort of like calling black people "negro" to prove a point). Feel free to look this up here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap. --A Jaded Lizard (talk) 20:36, 3 February 2018 (EST)
- Yeah but that doesn't really work as an equivalent since there's no language called "Negronese" the name of which is not regarded to be offensive that you might be talking about instead. If there was and you were clearly talking about that language, it would be silly to get offended by it. Anyway, it doesn't really matter since I've removed it, I figure most people can figure out the stuff that looks like it's Japanese is Japanese without further prompting. Evil Tim (talk) 01:22, 4 February 2018 (EST)
- Feel free to ask any Japanese you know what their preferred race is "Japanese" or "Jap," and whether referring to them or their language as "Jap" would be offensive. I'm curious what their response would be. I'm white, and I don't appreciate accusations of race baiting. I'm not really interested in arguing on this either, but it's pretty common knowledge elsewhere on the internet, especially in places where lots of kana and kanji (such as the anime wikia I administer) are used. To use your argument, "Rus" probably wouldn't be offensive, but "Russkie" would almost certainly irritate someone, and that's without the racial undertones Russkie doesn't have, but Jap does. The point is, racial slurs are racial slurs, and context doesn't make them acceptable. --A Jaded Lizard (talk) 16:57, 4 February 2018 (EST)
- And you're continuing to miss the point. So disappointed. --A Jaded Lizard (talk) 11:01, 5 February 2018 (EST)
- I don't care and to be honest neither should you. Evil Tim (talk) 12:40, 5 February 2018 (EST)
- By Jove, you're right! I should only care about bigotry and racism when it effects me! Why didn't I see it before?--A Jaded Lizard (talk) 17:22, 5 February 2018 (EST)
- My gosh, y’all are turning IMFDB into Tumblr(or some other leftist site) by trying to make every little thing racist. Dear goodness.--AK-74Fan (talk) 18:06, 5 February 2018 (EST)
- My God, you point out someone should probably come up with a better abbreviation than a racial slur, and suddenly you're a card carrying member of ANTIFA. I really don't understand why this is such a hard concept to grasp, or why telling people not to be racist is so upsetting. --A Jaded Lizard (talk) 18:08, 5 February 2018 (EST)
- It's the "accusing people of being racists and bigots" part. You know, that's kind of a major thing you shouldn't accuse people of over a word which in context clearly isn't a racial slur (being as the dot at the end makes it clear that the word is part of a larger word and the Japanese that follows shows it is not a reference to race) and which hasn't offended anyone. At most it's a bit of phrasing you don't personally like, you don't get to invoke hypothetical people to bolster your point and declare it racist if we don't respect the desires of those people you just invented. Now stop this nonsense, this is not the place for moral grandstanding. Evil Tim (talk) 19:14, 5 February 2018 (EST)
- What a load of self-important and downright unwarranted bitching. That said, I'd say it's lofty indeed to be talking anyone down about cultural sensitivity given some remarks you've made in the past - Show this to any women, by chance? Then again perhaps you weren't trying to be some sexist son of a bitch and instead were just making a dumb remark - rather like whoever put the 'jap.' wasn't trying trying to be some racist son of a bitch but rather simply made an unnecessary shorthand. Both had the proper thing done to them, that was removal. Removal because they added nothing. That's it. Anything more is making a stink for the sake of it, end of. Yeah you have a point about racial slurs, but what you're clearly failing at here is understanding the point that context and intent does matter and to get all worked up when it's plainly not called for is just outing yourself as some SJW-type roaming around looking for some kind of 'wrong' to be 'righted' - And as Tim said, we're not here for that. For the record, nothing peeves me more on here than people spending so much effort on something that is NOT the point of this site. Bottom line the comment is gone and I agree it was NOT a slur and NOT made in offense whatsoever so your whole ire is moot. Now if you disagree and truly think we're here to be a bunch of supposed bigots, no one's making you stay. StanTheMan (talk) 22:20, 5 February 2018 (EST)
- It's the "accusing people of being racists and bigots" part. You know, that's kind of a major thing you shouldn't accuse people of over a word which in context clearly isn't a racial slur (being as the dot at the end makes it clear that the word is part of a larger word and the Japanese that follows shows it is not a reference to race) and which hasn't offended anyone. At most it's a bit of phrasing you don't personally like, you don't get to invoke hypothetical people to bolster your point and declare it racist if we don't respect the desires of those people you just invented. Now stop this nonsense, this is not the place for moral grandstanding. Evil Tim (talk) 19:14, 5 February 2018 (EST)
- My God, you point out someone should probably come up with a better abbreviation than a racial slur, and suddenly you're a card carrying member of ANTIFA. I really don't understand why this is such a hard concept to grasp, or why telling people not to be racist is so upsetting. --A Jaded Lizard (talk) 18:08, 5 February 2018 (EST)
- My gosh, y’all are turning IMFDB into Tumblr(or some other leftist site) by trying to make every little thing racist. Dear goodness.--AK-74Fan (talk) 18:06, 5 February 2018 (EST)
- By Jove, you're right! I should only care about bigotry and racism when it effects me! Why didn't I see it before?--A Jaded Lizard (talk) 17:22, 5 February 2018 (EST)
- I don't care and to be honest neither should you. Evil Tim (talk) 12:40, 5 February 2018 (EST)
- And you're continuing to miss the point. So disappointed. --A Jaded Lizard (talk) 11:01, 5 February 2018 (EST)