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==Reference Markup== | --[[User:Insert name here|Insert name here]] ([[User talk:Insert name here|talk]]) 19:43, 8 April 2020 (EDT)==Reference Markup== | ||
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I think it is a good idea to avoid manual reference lists, like this: '''['''[[Help_talk:Editing#References|1]]''']'''.--[[User:MarsVoyager|MarsVoyager]] ([[User talk:MarsVoyager|talk]]) 18:14, 15 January 2018 (EST) | I think it is a good idea to avoid manual reference lists, like this: '''['''[[Help_talk:Editing#References|1]]''']'''.--[[User:MarsVoyager|MarsVoyager]] ([[User talk:MarsVoyager|talk]]) 18:14, 15 January 2018 (EST) | ||
I'm having trouble creating pages because i can't use images that aren't already on this website. [[User:Insert name here|Insert name here]] ([[User talk:Insert name here|talk]]) 19:25, 8 April 2020 (EDT) | |||
=== References === | === References === | ||
[1] ([[Help_talk:Editing#Reference_Markup|return]]) [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Editing Bad reference list example]--[[User:MarsVoyager|MarsVoyager]] ([[User talk:MarsVoyager|talk]]) 18:14, 15 January 2018 (EST) | [1] ([[Help_talk:Editing#Reference_Markup|return]]) [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Editing Bad reference list example]--[[User:MarsVoyager|MarsVoyager]] ([[User talk:MarsVoyager|talk]]) 18:14, 15 January 2018 (EST) | ||
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:We don't want those either. Like I said, we don't use inline citations, so we don't need reference tags. Haven't you noticed there isn't a single article on IMFDB that has a references list? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 18:18, 15 January 2018 (EST) | :We don't want those either. Like I said, we don't use inline citations, so we don't need reference tags. Haven't you noticed there isn't a single article on IMFDB that has a references list? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 18:18, 15 January 2018 (EST) | ||
::Ok, understood. I have found some statements that could be supported by a source, e.g. the first sentence on [[For_a_Few_Dollars_More]], but I'll leave it. --[[User:MarsVoyager|MarsVoyager]] ([[User talk:MarsVoyager|talk]]) 18:40, 15 January 2018 (EST) | ::Ok, understood. I have found some statements that could be supported by a source, e.g. the first sentence on [[For_a_Few_Dollars_More]], but I'll leave it. --[[User:MarsVoyager|MarsVoyager]] ([[User talk:MarsVoyager|talk]]) 18:40, 15 January 2018 (EST) | ||
:::You're probably familiar with how Wikipedia does this, so to explain the difference: Wikipedia (and other places that use the same model) seeks to be a ''tertiary'' source, so each statement they make is supported by, ideally, an authoritative secondary source writing about the subject of the article. IMFDB seeks to be a ''secondary'' source, so we rely on our own authority by assembling a knowledgeable group of editors: we're as likely to end up arguing with other sources as we are to agree with them. One of Wikipedia's maxims is "verifiability, not truth:" we're the opposite. | |||
:::As a result, discussion of sources for any contentious information is done on the talk page between individual editors: if you believe any information you're adding is unusual or likely to be challenged, you can put a link to a source in your edit summary. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 04:49, 16 January 2018 (EST) | |||
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--Insert name here (talk) 19:43, 8 April 2020 (EDT)==Reference Markup== The <ref> and <reference/> tags don't work. This is seen in the examples on this page. MarsVoyager (talk) 15:18, 15 January 2018 (EST)
- Yes, we're aware of this. Fortunately, we don't really use the reference tag here. --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:48, 15 January 2018 (EST)
- Yeah, if I recall I actually deleted the ref template to emphasise that people shouldn't use inline citations because that isn't how IMFDB functions. I mean bear in mind that this is copy-pasted from Wookiepedia, hence all the references to Star Wars. Evil Tim (talk) 16:08, 15 January 2018 (EST)
- Reference tags seems to work in Wookieepedia[1]. Reference: [1] Wookieepedia Help Editing, retrieved 2018-01-15. --MarsVoyager (talk) 18:14, 15 January 2018 (EST)
- Yeah, if I recall I actually deleted the ref template to emphasise that people shouldn't use inline citations because that isn't how IMFDB functions. I mean bear in mind that this is copy-pasted from Wookiepedia, hence all the references to Star Wars. Evil Tim (talk) 16:08, 15 January 2018 (EST)
I think it is a good idea to avoid manual reference lists, like this: [1].--MarsVoyager (talk) 18:14, 15 January 2018 (EST)
I'm having trouble creating pages because i can't use images that aren't already on this website. Insert name here (talk) 19:25, 8 April 2020 (EDT)
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[1] (return) Bad reference list example--MarsVoyager (talk) 18:14, 15 January 2018 (EST)
- We don't want those either. Like I said, we don't use inline citations, so we don't need reference tags. Haven't you noticed there isn't a single article on IMFDB that has a references list? Evil Tim (talk) 18:18, 15 January 2018 (EST)
- Ok, understood. I have found some statements that could be supported by a source, e.g. the first sentence on For_a_Few_Dollars_More, but I'll leave it. --MarsVoyager (talk) 18:40, 15 January 2018 (EST)
- You're probably familiar with how Wikipedia does this, so to explain the difference: Wikipedia (and other places that use the same model) seeks to be a tertiary source, so each statement they make is supported by, ideally, an authoritative secondary source writing about the subject of the article. IMFDB seeks to be a secondary source, so we rely on our own authority by assembling a knowledgeable group of editors: we're as likely to end up arguing with other sources as we are to agree with them. One of Wikipedia's maxims is "verifiability, not truth:" we're the opposite.
- As a result, discussion of sources for any contentious information is done on the talk page between individual editors: if you believe any information you're adding is unusual or likely to be challenged, you can put a link to a source in your edit summary. Evil Tim (talk) 04:49, 16 January 2018 (EST)
- Ok, understood. I have found some statements that could be supported by a source, e.g. the first sentence on For_a_Few_Dollars_More, but I'll leave it. --MarsVoyager (talk) 18:40, 15 January 2018 (EST)