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= Additional Images = | |||
[[File:Fedorov M1913 Rifle 7.62.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Fedorov self-loading rifle M1913 - 7.62x54mmR. As far as it know, the earliest M1911 and M1912 were almost identical.]] | |||
[[File:Fedorov M1913.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Fedorov self-loading rifle M1913 - 6.5mm Fedorov]] | |||
=Discussion= | |||
So, I finally, perhaps, found the most detailed article about this weapon: [http://www.kalashnikov.ru/oruzhie-novogo-tipa] (on Russian language, though). --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 12:59, 17 November 2017 (EST) | So, I finally, perhaps, found the most detailed article about this weapon: [http://www.kalashnikov.ru/oruzhie-novogo-tipa] (on Russian language, though). --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 12:59, 17 November 2017 (EST) | ||
:Well, this article provides a lot new info. Looks a very careful research. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 13:17, 17 November 2017 (EST) | :Well, this article provides a lot new info. Looks a very careful research. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 13:17, 17 November 2017 (EST) | ||
::Okay, so what does that mean? "M1916" is actually M1919? Since the real M1916, it turns out, did not have a front grip and a barrel shroud. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 18:18, 17 November 2017 (EST) | ::Okay, so what does that mean? "M1916" is actually M1919? Since the real M1916, it turns out, did not have a front grip and a barrel shroud. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 18:18, 17 November 2017 (EST) | ||
:::Hm. Author says he only saw one gun in what he said was the original configuration, though. From what google translate tells me, the one he saw had a 15-round magazine and no foregrip? [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 18:47, 17 November 2017 (EST) | |||
And a number of later versions, which I do not even know how to describe: [http://zhurnal.lib.ru/img/k/krasilxnikow_o_j/fedorov/af2.jpg], [https://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/019966/19966185.jpg]. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 19:05, 9 May 2018 (EDT) | |||
==Fedorov-Degtyaryov== | |||
I found a few mentions of this gun on the internet. So it is known that 4 prototypes were created (minimum). The first 3 prototypes were based on the basic 25-round magazine-fed model, the fourth prototype was a plate-fed version. I think it's worth putting all 4 prototypes on the main page with the date and prototype number.--[[User:Mateogala|Emto_PL]] ([[User talk:Mateogala|talk]]) 06:25, 8 December 2022 (UTC) | |||
[[File:Fedorov-Diegtyarev LMG prototyp 1 - 1921.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Fedorov-Degtyaryov light machine gun with [[Lewis Gun]]-type water-cooled jacket and standard 25-round magazine - 6.5x50mmSR Arisaka. Prototype from 1921.]] | |||
[[File:Fedorov-Diegtyarev LMG prototyp 2 - 1922.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Fedorov-Degtyaryov light machine gun with air cooling of the barrel and standard 25-round magazine - 6.5x50mmSR Arisaka. Prototype from 1922.]] | |||
[[File:Fedorov-Diegtyarev LMG prototyp 3 - 1922.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Fedorov-Degtyaryov light machine gun with [[Maxim]]-type water-cooled jacket and standard 25-round magazine - 6.5x50mmSR Arisaka. Prototype from 1922.]] | |||
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*Exhibition at the Military Historical Museum of Artillery, Engineering and Signal Corps in St. Petersburg, dedicated to the work of Degtyarev and Fyodorov. | |||
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[[File:Fedorov-Diegtyarev LMG prototyp 1 - 1921 real.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Fedorov-Degtyaryov light machine gun with [[Lewis Gun]]-type water-cooled jacket and standard 25-round magazine - 6.5x50mmSR Arisaka. Prototype from 1921.]] | |||
[[File:Fedorov-Diegtyarev LMG prototyp 2 - 1922 real.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Fedorov-Degtyaryov light machine gun with air cooling of the barrel and standard 25-round magazine - 6.5x50mmSR Arisaka. Prototype from 1922.]] | |||
[[File:Fedorov-Diegtyarev LMG prototyp 3 - 1922 real.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Fedorov-Degtyaryov light machine gun with [[Maxim]]-type water-cooled jacket - 6.5x50mmSR Arisaka. Prototype from 1922.]] | |||
Latest revision as of 07:08, 8 December 2022
Additional Images
Discussion
So, I finally, perhaps, found the most detailed article about this weapon: [1] (on Russian language, though). --Slon95 (talk) 12:59, 17 November 2017 (EST)
- Well, this article provides a lot new info. Looks a very careful research. Greg-Z (talk) 13:17, 17 November 2017 (EST)
And a number of later versions, which I do not even know how to describe: [2], [3]. --Slon95 (talk) 19:05, 9 May 2018 (EDT)
![[2]](http://zhurnal.lib.ru/img/k/krasilxnikow_o_j/fedorov/af2.jpg){kind=link}
![[3]](https://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/019966/19966185.jpg){kind=link}
Fedorov-Degtyaryov
I found a few mentions of this gun on the internet. So it is known that 4 prototypes were created (minimum). The first 3 prototypes were based on the basic 25-round magazine-fed model, the fourth prototype was a plate-fed version. I think it's worth putting all 4 prototypes on the main page with the date and prototype number.--Emto_PL (talk) 06:25, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- Exhibition at the Military Historical Museum of Artillery, Engineering and Signal Corps in St. Petersburg, dedicated to the work of Degtyarev and Fyodorov.
