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That revolver isn't a Webley, it is another top break. My guess would be an Iver Johnson but not 100% on that. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:47, 12 November 2017 (EST) | That revolver isn't a Webley, it is another top break. My guess would be an Iver Johnson but not 100% on that. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:47, 12 November 2017 (EST) | ||
:Also, are there any other shots of the "Winchester Model 1912" as to me it looks too skinny and the pump is too small and the wrong shape. I wonder if it is a [[22 LR Pump Action Rifles|.22 pump action rifle]] of some sort. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:54, 12 November 2017 (EST) | :Also, are there any other shots of the "Winchester Model 1912" as to me it looks too skinny and the pump is too small and the wrong shape. I wonder if it is a [[22 LR Pump Action Rifles|.22 pump action rifle]] of some sort. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:54, 12 November 2017 (EST) | ||
::The revolver looks like a top break pocket pistol in .38 S&W, need to find one that has the looking notches line up with the cylinder scoops like the picture shows. It could also be a Colt Lightning pump action rifle or carbine, have to see a better picture to be sure. [[User:Black Irish Paddy|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy|talk]]) 19:28, 12 November 2017 (EST) | |||
:::Did a bit of looking and the revolver pretty much is just the basic pattern mass market .38 pocket pistol from the late 1800's to the early 1900's, without seeing the grips or the markings on the pistol it will be extremely difficult to identify. There were a lot of producers of the guns. H&R, Iver Johnson, S&W, Hopkins and Allen, the various Belgian, German and Spanish factories churning them out by the train load. At least we know what it most likely will turn out be, huh? [[User:Black Irish Paddy|Black Irish Paddy]] ([[User talk:Black Irish Paddy|talk]]) 19:43, 12 November 2017 (EST) | |||
::::Just to elaborate, the reason I guessed Iver Johnson was that the revolver in question has 4 pins along the bottom of the frame, whereas most other guns like H&Rs, H&As, S&Ws and any other top breaks of this pattern normally have 2 or 3. The earlier Iver Johnsons have 2, but the later guns have 4 (I think that this is the 3rd model and it corresponds to them being chambered for smokeless cartridges but not sure about that). From an admittedly quick search the only other revolver that matched the pin patter was made by the US Revolver Company, but then I looked into that and it turned out that it is a subsidiary of Iver Johnson. As for the rifle, the pump shape looks closest to that of an early model Winchester Model 61 or 62, and based on the fact that it has what looks like a semi pistol grip my guess would be that it is the 61. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 20:16, 12 November 2017 (EST) | |||
I love this page title :D [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 19:24, 12 November 2017 (EST) | I love this page title :D [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 19:24, 12 November 2017 (EST) | ||
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That's an 1894 Winchester, note the long loading gate in relation to the receiver. Black Irish Paddy (talk) 22:34, 11 November 2017 (EST)
That revolver isn't a Webley, it is another top break. My guess would be an Iver Johnson but not 100% on that. --commando552 (talk) 18:47, 12 November 2017 (EST)
- Also, are there any other shots of the "Winchester Model 1912" as to me it looks too skinny and the pump is too small and the wrong shape. I wonder if it is a .22 pump action rifle of some sort. --commando552 (talk) 18:54, 12 November 2017 (EST)
- The revolver looks like a top break pocket pistol in .38 S&W, need to find one that has the looking notches line up with the cylinder scoops like the picture shows. It could also be a Colt Lightning pump action rifle or carbine, have to see a better picture to be sure. Black Irish Paddy (talk) 19:28, 12 November 2017 (EST)
- Did a bit of looking and the revolver pretty much is just the basic pattern mass market .38 pocket pistol from the late 1800's to the early 1900's, without seeing the grips or the markings on the pistol it will be extremely difficult to identify. There were a lot of producers of the guns. H&R, Iver Johnson, S&W, Hopkins and Allen, the various Belgian, German and Spanish factories churning them out by the train load. At least we know what it most likely will turn out be, huh? Black Irish Paddy (talk) 19:43, 12 November 2017 (EST)
- Just to elaborate, the reason I guessed Iver Johnson was that the revolver in question has 4 pins along the bottom of the frame, whereas most other guns like H&Rs, H&As, S&Ws and any other top breaks of this pattern normally have 2 or 3. The earlier Iver Johnsons have 2, but the later guns have 4 (I think that this is the 3rd model and it corresponds to them being chambered for smokeless cartridges but not sure about that). From an admittedly quick search the only other revolver that matched the pin patter was made by the US Revolver Company, but then I looked into that and it turned out that it is a subsidiary of Iver Johnson. As for the rifle, the pump shape looks closest to that of an early model Winchester Model 61 or 62, and based on the fact that it has what looks like a semi pistol grip my guess would be that it is the 61. --commando552 (talk) 20:16, 12 November 2017 (EST)
- Did a bit of looking and the revolver pretty much is just the basic pattern mass market .38 pocket pistol from the late 1800's to the early 1900's, without seeing the grips or the markings on the pistol it will be extremely difficult to identify. There were a lot of producers of the guns. H&R, Iver Johnson, S&W, Hopkins and Allen, the various Belgian, German and Spanish factories churning them out by the train load. At least we know what it most likely will turn out be, huh? Black Irish Paddy (talk) 19:43, 12 November 2017 (EST)
- The revolver looks like a top break pocket pistol in .38 S&W, need to find one that has the looking notches line up with the cylinder scoops like the picture shows. It could also be a Colt Lightning pump action rifle or carbine, have to see a better picture to be sure. Black Irish Paddy (talk) 19:28, 12 November 2017 (EST)
I love this page title :D Evil Tim (talk) 19:24, 12 November 2017 (EST)