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So at what point do we stop pretending Batman doesn't kill people? Because that's a lot of firepower for not killing people. Or do the alien things not count as people?--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 14:55, 6 June 2017 (EDT) | So at what point do we stop pretending Batman doesn't kill people? Because that's a lot of firepower for not killing people. Or do the alien things not count as people?--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 14:55, 6 June 2017 (EDT) | ||
:To be fair, in the comics and cartoons Batman has not really had a problem with "killing" parademons, as in a lot of incarnations they are not really truley sentient instead being more like biomechanical drones (a bit like the Chitauri from ''The Avengers''), so fair game. Hey, maybe he is firing rubber bullets anyway. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:43, 6 June 2017 (EDT) | :To be fair, in the comics and cartoons Batman has not really had a problem with "killing" parademons, as in a lot of incarnations they are not really truley sentient instead being more like biomechanical drones (a bit like the Chitauri from ''The Avengers''), so fair game. Hey, maybe he is firing rubber bullets anyway. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:43, 6 June 2017 (EDT) | ||
:Don't forget, Batman '89 and Batman v Superman had him racking up sizable body counts. Then on the worst end (at least outside of comics), there's the Arrowverse's Earth-99 Batman, who had fought supervillains for so long that it made him a sociopath who ended up killing not only a number of his own rogues but also that Earth's Superman. There's also Flashpoint Batman who was nothing short of a murderous psychopath, but maybe he doesn't quite count here since that was Thomas Wayne instead of Bruce. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 06:23, 4 December 2020 (EST) | |||
== Glock 19 == | |||
It's kind of a dubious ID, IMO. There's no way to know ''what'' this guy has holstered from the given screencap. He could have an S&W 500, for all we know. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 17:20, 7 June 2017 (EDT) | |||
: You're right. I can't even see a holster. Sticking the picture back here for now.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 17:36, 7 June 2017 (EDT) | |||
::The gun isn't holstered, it is in his right hand. Probably best to still leave it unidentified though, as it isn't really seen well enough to establish anything past it being black and boxy. Whilst looking through the trailer and BTS reel they released to check for any more images of it I did find a couple more guns though. In the BTS video there is a scene with British Police carrying H&K G36Cs with ACOGs and there is also one of them that has a suppressed sniper rifle of some sort (probably an AW variant but not sure). In the main trailer when WW sweeps the guys legs out from under him there are a couple of guns visible on the floor, one that looks like an AR-15 and the other might be a suppressed SMG. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 18:32, 7 June 2017 (EDT) | |||
== Suppressed P30 == | |||
If you look closely at the rear of the pistol in the screencap, I think it looks more like the VP9 with a flat back, rather than the P30 with an exposed hammer. Just a thought. -- Mormonpowerranger521 | |||
== Unknown revolver == | |||
A burglar ([[Holt McCallany]], uncredited) draws an unidentified revolver on Batman in the opening scene. | |||
Latest revision as of 11:23, 4 December 2020
So at what point do we stop pretending Batman doesn't kill people? Because that's a lot of firepower for not killing people. Or do the alien things not count as people?--Mandolin (talk) 14:55, 6 June 2017 (EDT)
- To be fair, in the comics and cartoons Batman has not really had a problem with "killing" parademons, as in a lot of incarnations they are not really truley sentient instead being more like biomechanical drones (a bit like the Chitauri from The Avengers), so fair game. Hey, maybe he is firing rubber bullets anyway. --commando552 (talk) 16:43, 6 June 2017 (EDT)
- Don't forget, Batman '89 and Batman v Superman had him racking up sizable body counts. Then on the worst end (at least outside of comics), there's the Arrowverse's Earth-99 Batman, who had fought supervillains for so long that it made him a sociopath who ended up killing not only a number of his own rogues but also that Earth's Superman. There's also Flashpoint Batman who was nothing short of a murderous psychopath, but maybe he doesn't quite count here since that was Thomas Wayne instead of Bruce. Spartan198 (talk) 06:23, 4 December 2020 (EST)
Glock 19
It's kind of a dubious ID, IMO. There's no way to know what this guy has holstered from the given screencap. He could have an S&W 500, for all we know. Spartan198 (talk) 17:20, 7 June 2017 (EDT)
- You're right. I can't even see a holster. Sticking the picture back here for now.--Mandolin (talk) 17:36, 7 June 2017 (EDT)
- The gun isn't holstered, it is in his right hand. Probably best to still leave it unidentified though, as it isn't really seen well enough to establish anything past it being black and boxy. Whilst looking through the trailer and BTS reel they released to check for any more images of it I did find a couple more guns though. In the BTS video there is a scene with British Police carrying H&K G36Cs with ACOGs and there is also one of them that has a suppressed sniper rifle of some sort (probably an AW variant but not sure). In the main trailer when WW sweeps the guys legs out from under him there are a couple of guns visible on the floor, one that looks like an AR-15 and the other might be a suppressed SMG. --commando552 (talk) 18:32, 7 June 2017 (EDT)
Suppressed P30
If you look closely at the rear of the pistol in the screencap, I think it looks more like the VP9 with a flat back, rather than the P30 with an exposed hammer. Just a thought. -- Mormonpowerranger521
Unknown revolver
A burglar (Holt McCallany, uncredited) draws an unidentified revolver on Batman in the opening scene.