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Happy New Year's to all. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 21:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
==2017==
== I guess, I made ID of Thark Rifle in John Carter movie ==
A Happy New Year to all! --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 18:44, 31 December 2016 (EST)
:Damn, looks like somebody beat me to it. Oh well. Here's to another year of letting people know about the guns they're seeing in popular media. It'll sure be fun for me (even if I did get my wisdom teeth removed last Friday), and I hope it will be for all of you, too. May your 2017 be free of Lyme Disease and Communism. Cheers! [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 23:48, 31 December 2016 (EST)
== Some question of rare gun in movie ==
At the ''[[John Carter (2012)|John Carter]]'' movie, most Tharks (Green Martian clan) use Thark Martian rifles. Of course, it was futurised guns, but, after closing inspection of the original movie props, I notice, that's this futusistic rifles were made from [[Tanegashima]]s (of course, a modern replicas). For proving this guess, I made a photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. So, I guess, that's useful to ID the gun as Tanegashma. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 13:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
[[Image:Thark rifle photoshop.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. The serpent for the match and closing powderbox (1), which is almost similar on the Tanegashima and Thark rifle. The pistol-grip buttstock (2) which is also almost similar. Of course, the movie prop is equipped with some part of other guns (percussion hammer) as well as some junks, to look more futuristic, as well, it's sawn in half, but the basing gun is Tanegashima.]]
Hello! I'm sorry, I have some question: I know, that pages about media, that contain only tanegashima matchlock are ineligible. But, the movie Azumi contain not only standart arquebuse, but also contain very rare, but realy historical exist Japanese matchlock revolver [http://radikal.ru/fp/8c7lkxhkdkcvs 1], [http://radikal.ru/fp/7o2nzza4ekx9z 2], [http://radikal.ru/fp/1cckd5cfhfmde 3], [https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/d3/9a/08/d39a08d69a70a389fd84a2910726202e.jpg like this]. So, may I upload screenshots on discussion page to view it for Administrators.
==Smiling Friends page?==
The western animation series Smiling Friends has quite a few realistically-drawn firearms which I documented on my sandbox [[User:Dnkakusei/Sandbox#Smiling_Friends_.5B2022-ongoing.2C_USA.5D|here]]. I would just like to know if the show qualifies for a page on this site. --[[User:Dnkakusei|Dnkakusei]] ([[User talk:Dnkakusei|talk]]) 13:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0384819/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 Azumi page on imdb].
:I added screenshots to disscussion page: [[Talk:Azumi]]. What do you think about eligibility of this page? [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 13:02, 19 January 2017 (EST)
::I vote for eligibility as the exact version of the gun is identified now. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 13:37, 19 January 2017 (EST)
:::Thank you very much! What will be the decision of other admins? [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 18:14, 22 January 2017 (EST)
==Excess Gun Image(s)==
Just want to holler at the mod/s just in case. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 07:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Most recent example - http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Remington_870_with_Hogue_pistol_grip.jpeg <BR>
: Got more screenshots from Detective Conan marked for deletion since Netflix Japan's able to get remastered episodes out and I'm slowly using them to update pages here. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 01:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Straight-up, I'm not sure this is a worthy image for inclusion. It's clearly a jacked one of someone's personal gun and not even that good a pic, either. I've seen quite a few excess gun images of this speed around actually, many only used on just one particular page (if that). Forgive me but I'm of the strong opinion that just because one particular show or movie has a gun in a particular configuration doesn't mean we absolutely have to have an image - in this case, *any* image - of said gun in said particular configuration. As stated we're not a gun encyclopedia, and I think this kind of thing leans a bit too far that way, frankly. I'd start marking some of these for deletion review but before I do I wanted some additional input on this. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 02:25, 18 January 2017 (EST)
:: Got more stuff for deletion. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 06:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
:Makes sense to me. What page was that image used on btw?--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 06:27, 18 January 2017 (EST)
:: "The following page links to this file: '''Talk:Remington Model 870'''" --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 08:05, 18 January 2017 (EST)
::: It was uploaded by Ominae I believe for the Gotham S3 page, now it looks like on that page it's been replaced with what I still think is a superfluous but admittedly much better image by Ben. I had put it on the talk page before deciding on posting about it here - I'll take it off there and nuke-tag it. That aside, I still think we have quite a load more of one-off gun pics and I wonder if they're really necessary in many cases.. I doubt it, but again, I wanted some extra input before I started nuke-tagging anything much more. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 15:44, 18 January 2017 (EST)
:::: I've deleted the original image, but I think it is worth keeping the newer one that Ben uploaded. It is different to all of the other pistol gripped 870 images we have, as all of them either have a shorter barrel or an extended tube. I wouldn't be surprised if there are actually other pages already that would benefit from this image, where this one is a closer match but people have used other images as there wasn't one like this available. As for the wider issue of when to stop adding gun images, my opinion on it is that we do not need pictures of every gun with every accessory that has been used. For example, we do not need a picture of an M4 with an Aimpoint T1 because it appears in one film. However, in this case it is actually the configuration of the gun itself that is unique rather than accessories attached to it, so I think that it is worth the image. Also, it isn't like this is some weird and esoteric custom build, it is a vanilla 870 that has had the stock replaced with a pistol grip, so a pretty common gun I would imagine. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 16:58, 18 January 2017 (EST)
::::: Well most of the problem here was the chump image originally put up, which has been dealt with (thanks BTW, Ben). That said, I agree there are other some pages that could use this one and that's all right, great, even - If it can be spread out some, and/or is needed for reference or something I've no problem, but I still think there is something about some gun images again that are only used/meant for one particular page - To have a gun image for one page because it 'matches' in every respect seems a bit ridiculous (that's even if it's used on a page) - Yet people seem to do that quite a bit lately and there are already a fair number images like that it seems. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:42, 19 January 2017 (EST)
:::::: We used to have a serious problem with some users (and some mods) who had this weird fascination with putting as many screencaps as possible. This led to a change in the Rules and regulations. I remember one page that had 30 (!!!) screenshots of the same character firing or brandishing the same gun in nearly identical poses. It was silly, and thankfully, we don't have that problem any more. Many pages that were created a while ago, might still not be updated. Don't be alarmed if you see a ton of weird page formatting and photo discipline. Check the dates and they're usually OLDER pages, back when IMFDB was more of a 'wild west' ;) [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008|talk]]) 04:47, 4 April 2017 (EDT)
== One Gun Pages ==
== Blue Muzzle Flashes ==
I somehow confused. Do correspond pages with only one gun (which there was a lot lately) to IMFDB standards, or not? --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 12:41, 20 January 2017 (EST)
Something I have noticed with classic action films, mostly within the 80's era, is that a lot of muzzle flashes appear more blue than yellow. Did this have something to do with the type of blanks/props that were being used back then, or was this just a result of 1980's cinematography? --[[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 12:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
:[[Rules,_Standards_and_Principles#It_must_have_more_than_one_real_firearm_in_it|Rules, Standards and Principles]] say in what case such page qualify: "1) the firearm is identifiable, well seen and important to the story. A film where 'some character' wields an 'unknown revolver' means nothing. 2) it has enough screen time for any viewer to wonder what make or model it is. 3) it must drive the plot forward and not be an 'incidental' prop (like something hanging on the wall in the background).". [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 12:53, 20 January 2017 (EST)
::I was actually wondering about that. There's a really cool game called "Receiver" that only has two guns, a commander sized 1911 and a snub-nosed revolver (really bad at IDing revolvers). I was thinking about making a page for it, but since there's only two guns, it would feel a little bit unnecessary.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 13:22, 20 January 2017 (EST)
:::Movies and games are quite different things. At least movies show real guns, not something drawn on computer. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 13:33, 20 January 2017 (EST)
::::Well that guns are "real" in that they are based of actual firearms that exist (and function) in the real world.--[[User:AnActualAK47|AnActualAK47]] ([[User talk:AnActualAK47|talk]]) 14:03, 20 January 2017 (EST)
:::::No, that's not always true. There are tons of Anime and VG examples where the gun is a fanciful part of some designer or artists' imagination. At least in Movies and TV, you KNOW that the item actually physically exists, even if it was built from scratch by some prop department. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] ([[User talk:MoviePropMaster2008|talk]]) 04:49, 4 April 2017 (EDT)
== Requesting a page for Mine (2016) ==
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So i recently watched the new Armie Hammer's movie and i think it would be neat to include that movie, there are G3s and AK derivatives used by the insurgents as well as M4s, berettas and Armie's sniper rifle which i think its a McMillan Tac .338 but not so sure:https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OkOcVIR0CL4/maxresdefault.jpg
[[Image:T2JDBeretta92FS-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
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[[Image:CommandoS&W39-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
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You can see the rifle very well and with better view in its movie trailer that you guys can watch though.--[[User:Death Shadow20|Death Shadow20]] ([[User talk:Death Shadow20|talk]]) 17:36, 2 February 2017 (EST)
== Monsters vs Aliens? ==
:Once it's out, you're more than welcome to complete the page. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:03, 2 February 2017 (EST)
==Assessment==
Should we add a page about Monsters vs Aliens, the movie has some detailed guns like the M4 Carbine
Having doubts that this is qualified, but need another set of eyes for this.
== Prodigal Son - Season 2, Unknown semi-auto pistol ==
http://postimg.org/image/45ppbm3sd/
I believe have a positive ID on the "unknown" semi-auto pistol listed for Prodigal Son - Season 2.
http://postimg.org/image/dea42nz0f/
I requested an account specifically to help with this ID but I don't understand how to correctly add this info
[[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 22:16, 23 February 2017 (EST)
If someone could vet this and add it, I'd appreciate it!
: Looks like a slightly crudely modeled Glock 19 to me. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 01:22, 24 February 2017 (EST)
Prodigal Son - S02E10, "Exit Strategy". At approx 34m:30s, Felix (spoiler: Clayton Fielder's twin) climbs a staircase while brandishing, then racking, a silver-tone semi-auto I identify as a TriStar P-120 (CZ75 clone). It's later seen several times from virtually every conceivable angle starting around 38:10.
::Thought so too. I assume it's a no go? [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 12:04, 24 February 2017 (EST)
:I checked it and I think you're right, so I did make all the necessary changes. By the way, don't forget to put your nickname and time in all discussions using 4 "~" at the end of each post. [[User:Pustelga7|Pustelga7]] ([[User talk:Pustelga7|talk]]) 15:30, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
:::There are a lot of better pages you can be working on. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:20, 24 February 2017 (EST)
== Adjustments ==
: Thank you!
I made some necessary changes to the Assault Rifles category. For some reason, it doesn't show up on the Main Page, so I'm posting here to let you know about it. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 18:58, 1 April 2017 (EDT)
Therealnecroscope, 06:35, 6 June 2023
:I've been tempted to do a joke page for April Fools, like a page for ''Game of Thrones'' or ''Lord of the Rings'', but I didn't want to set a bad example. Although I suppose the best prank would be to just restore the page for that porno someone created last year. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 20:17, 1 April 2017 (EDT)
::Okay, I know that it probably exists on the Internet (believe me, I've made more than a few poorly worded Google searches that I came to regret), but what kind of professionally/officially released porno has an eligible amount of guns in it? Actually, scratch that, I don't want to know... [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 20:33, 1 April 2017 (EDT)
(Testing nic/time)
::: Honestly can't remember if it was an 'original' piece or some parody (probably the latter), but there's at least one more recently where in just embedded ad clips I've seen there were several firearms well displayed that, other elements notwithstanding, would make it quite worthy of inclusion. Technically I would think it would be possible to do films of that sort if the firearms are shown in SFW spots, but as pornographic titles have a non-explicitly stated but quite implied unilateral ban, well that's pretty much that. Would make for a good joke though, I agree. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 02:24, 2 April 2017 (EDT)
[[User:Therealnecroscope|Therealnecroscope]] ([[User talk:Therealnecroscope|talk]]) 10:35, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
::::They just have to start making parodies of the right films. ''This isn't Black Hawk Down'', or ''John Wick: A Porn Parody''. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:56, 3 April 2017 (EDT)
:::::You also need to bear in mind that in a lot of countries there are laws that prohibit "violent" pornography. Even if you made a porno with gunfights that were in SFW portions, I am not 100% sure how the law works with this and I doubt that companies would want to take the risk. As for whether we ban them or not, we don't explicitly (no pun intended) do so, and personally (assuming that the page could be made relatively tastefully) I would not necessarily be against including them. However I don not think that there are many made that would fit our current inclusion criteria in the RSP. Mainly, we state that "the title must be available to the general public through recognized channels of commerce (Amazon, Blockbuster, Netflix, etc.). Self distribution via Amazon, home distribution or micro distribution websites do not qualify". Although pornography is available on Amazon, I believe that it is only through other stores where Amazon handles the transaction so it is arguably inelligible. However, if there was a "pornographic" film which somehow got a wide theatrical release (the most recent example of this sort of thing that springs to mind is stuff like ''Nymphomaniac'') and it featured guns to our inclusion criteria, I would not have a problem with it getting a page. All thing considered though, it is unlikely to happen too much if at all. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:48, 3 April 2017 (EDT)
==White M18 grenade==
::::::IIRC somebody tried making a page for some pirate porn movie. Also, LOL Blockbuster.--[[User:Mandolin|Mandolin]] ([[User talk:Mandolin|talk]]) 08:37, 4 April 2017 (EDT)
Are white M18 smoke grenade only seen in TV/movies/games? Been seeing some of those. [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 17:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
:I don't think they come in white IRL. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 18:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
==Stunt/action choreography for a director's page==
On the page for stunt choreographer and two-time film director [[Kensuke Sonomura]], I've added a list of films and games that he contributed stunt direction and choreography to. I'm planning on fully adding these productions to his category, but I was told to ask an admin first because stunt coordination is a pretty niche credit, however I believe that these productions should be added to his category as stunt and action sequences are vital and important parts of these films and games. Is it safe to add the pages? --[[User:Dnkakusei|Dnkakusei]] ([[User talk:Dnkakusei|talk]]) 12:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
==Firearm citations without screen grabs?==
I am new here, and I have not seen any guidelines about whether it's okay to cite a firearm in a movie listing without an associated screen grab. Is it better to have a weapon identified, even without a photo? ... or is it really better to make sure that each citation includes corresponding screen grabs? --[[User:226X5-9-TAC|226X5-9-TAC]] ([[User talk:226X5-9-TAC|talk]]) 23:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC).
:First off, welcome aboard. As for your question, if it's a pre-existing page, then pointing out a specific gun that doesn't already have a screencap is fine, as long as you're specific about when and where it appears (though having a screencap is always preferable). If it's for a page that doesn't exist yet, we'd prefer not - we have an excess of pages without screencaps as-is. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 23:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
== Identifying revolver ==
What type of revolver is this? Film is from 1938. [[User:Theakker3|Theakker3]] ([[User talk:Theakker3|talk]]) 17:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
: Not really a detailed enough shot to tell much. Appears to be a mid-size, .38 or therabouts. Ejector rod looks rather long which makes me think it has a socket, which would make it a S&W. If so, likely a Military & Police model. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 17:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
==NCIS Sydney==
Should I wait until the episode/s airing in Australia in the last few weeks this month are accessible in Canada/US next month (January 2024) before screencapping, even though the show's backed by CBS and Paramount Plus? [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 10:05, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
== Happy New Year! (2024) ==
Happy New Year to all IMFDB and may this year be prolific in page editing too!--[[User:Dannyguns|Dannyguns]] ([[User talk:Dannyguns|talk]]) 08:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Happy New Year's to all. --Ben41 (talk) 21:36, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
I guess, I made ID of Thark Rifle in John Carter movie
At the John Carter movie, most Tharks (Green Martian clan) use Thark Martian rifles. Of course, it was futurised guns, but, after closing inspection of the original movie props, I notice, that's this futusistic rifles were made from Tanegashimas (of course, a modern replicas). For proving this guess, I made a photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. So, I guess, that's useful to ID the gun as Tanegashma. Pyramid Silent (talk) 13:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Error creating thumbnail: File missingA photoshoping compilation of the movie props and modern Tanegashima replica. The serpent for the match and closing powderbox (1), which is almost similar on the Tanegashima and Thark rifle. The pistol-grip buttstock (2) which is also almost similar. Of course, the movie prop is equipped with some part of other guns (percussion hammer) as well as some junks, to look more futuristic, as well, it's sawn in half, but the basing gun is Tanegashima.
Smiling Friends page?
The western animation series Smiling Friends has quite a few realistically-drawn firearms which I documented on my sandbox here. I would just like to know if the show qualifies for a page on this site. --Dnkakusei (talk) 13:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Delete category backlog
Just want to holler at the mod/s just in case. Ominae (talk) 07:56, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
Got more screenshots from Detective Conan marked for deletion since Netflix Japan's able to get remastered episodes out and I'm slowly using them to update pages here. Ominae (talk) 01:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Got more stuff for deletion. Ominae (talk) 06:52, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
Blue Muzzle Flashes
Something I have noticed with classic action films, mostly within the 80's era, is that a lot of muzzle flashes appear more blue than yellow. Did this have something to do with the type of blanks/props that were being used back then, or was this just a result of 1980's cinematography? --Theakker3 (talk) 12:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Should we add a page about Monsters vs Aliens, the movie has some detailed guns like the M4 Carbine
Prodigal Son - Season 2, Unknown semi-auto pistol
I believe have a positive ID on the "unknown" semi-auto pistol listed for Prodigal Son - Season 2.
I requested an account specifically to help with this ID but I don't understand how to correctly add this info
If someone could vet this and add it, I'd appreciate it!
Prodigal Son - S02E10, "Exit Strategy". At approx 34m:30s, Felix (spoiler: Clayton Fielder's twin) climbs a staircase while brandishing, then racking, a silver-tone semi-auto I identify as a TriStar P-120 (CZ75 clone). It's later seen several times from virtually every conceivable angle starting around 38:10.
I checked it and I think you're right, so I did make all the necessary changes. By the way, don't forget to put your nickname and time in all discussions using 4 "~" at the end of each post. Pustelga7 (talk) 15:30, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
Are white M18 smoke grenade only seen in TV/movies/games? Been seeing some of those. Ominae (talk) 17:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
I don't think they come in white IRL. --Funkychinaman (talk) 18:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
Stunt/action choreography for a director's page
On the page for stunt choreographer and two-time film director Kensuke Sonomura, I've added a list of films and games that he contributed stunt direction and choreography to. I'm planning on fully adding these productions to his category, but I was told to ask an admin first because stunt coordination is a pretty niche credit, however I believe that these productions should be added to his category as stunt and action sequences are vital and important parts of these films and games. Is it safe to add the pages? --Dnkakusei (talk) 12:50, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
Firearm citations without screen grabs?
I am new here, and I have not seen any guidelines about whether it's okay to cite a firearm in a movie listing without an associated screen grab. Is it better to have a weapon identified, even without a photo? ... or is it really better to make sure that each citation includes corresponding screen grabs? --226X5-9-TAC (talk) 23:02, 15 December 2023 (UTC).
First off, welcome aboard. As for your question, if it's a pre-existing page, then pointing out a specific gun that doesn't already have a screencap is fine, as long as you're specific about when and where it appears (though having a screencap is always preferable). If it's for a page that doesn't exist yet, we'd prefer not - we have an excess of pages without screencaps as-is. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 23:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Identifying revolver
What type of revolver is this? Film is from 1938. Theakker3 (talk) 17:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Not really a detailed enough shot to tell much. Appears to be a mid-size, .38 or therabouts. Ejector rod looks rather long which makes me think it has a socket, which would make it a S&W. If so, likely a Military & Police model. StanTheMan (talk) 17:30, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
NCIS Sydney
Should I wait until the episode/s airing in Australia in the last few weeks this month are accessible in Canada/US next month (January 2024) before screencapping, even though the show's backed by CBS and Paramount Plus? Ominae (talk) 10:05, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Happy New Year! (2024)
Happy New Year to all IMFDB and may this year be prolific in page editing too!--Dannyguns (talk) 08:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
