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I've Just seen the movie, and I think That there is a continuity mistake during the first bank robbery, when the Smith and wesson 686 changes briefly to a s&w 65.[[User:Rafa|Rafa]] ([[User talk:Rafa|talk]]) 15:26, 1 January 2017 (EST) | |||
The influence of advisor and former Texas Ranger Joaquin Jackson can be seen in the pistol (a Commander-style 1911), holster and grips used by Jeff Bridges, very similar to those used by Nick Nolte in Extreme Prejudice. | |||
We should cut out the bit at the bottom of the screenshot of Alberto holding the AR. Kind of pretty big spoiler.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 22:23, 26 February 2017 (EST) | |||
==Pistol== | ==Pistol== | ||
What's the pistol used by the thug at the gas station? [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 11:57, 15 December 2016 (EST) | What's the pistol used by the thug at the gas station? [[User:Laqueesha|Laqueesha]] ([[User talk:Laqueesha|talk]]) 11:57, 15 December 2016 (EST) | ||
:I think it is a Ruger p-90 or P-95 [[User:Rafa|Rafa]]15:25, 1 January 2017 | |||
== Please help ID == | |||
Please help ID this rifle. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 16:26, 27 February 2017 (EST) | |||
Fairly certain it's a [[Marlin Model 1881]] lever action rifle. Note the loading gate and the shape of the lever. Pretty distinctive. Made between 1881 - 1891 in four calibers. There were two different frame sizes. The large frame was available in 45-70 Government, 45-85 and 40-60 Marlin.The medium frame was available in 32-40 and 38-55 Ballard. That one appears to be a large frame Model 1881. Marlin only made about 21,000 of this model and they are very collectible. An interesting choice and very cool.I created the page for the rifle and I've added the movie to it. I'll leave the rest to you since I haven't actually seen the film yet and therefore have no idea where it fits into the storyline. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 20:41, 27 February 2017 (EST) | |||
:I'm not so 100% sure that it actually is one. If you look at the receiver it looks like it has some extra pins or screws, a couple at the front of the receiver and one high up at the rear that are absent on the real Marlin 1881. Maybe it is a replica or a clone, but I can't find a match. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:39, 28 February 2017 (EST) | |||
:: It's not a Colt-Burgess rifle though. The loading gate is in the right place, but the CB was only made in 44-40 and the frame is too large for that caliber. I also keep looking at the shape of the lever itself. It's a tough one. I don't suppose there are any clearer screencaps?--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 15:38, 28 February 2017 (EST) | |||
Okay one last possibility. IT might be a Whitney Scharf rifle. Whitney only built 2000 Scharf's from around 1886-1888 before being bought out by Winchester Repeating Arms which promptly dissolved this old and historic company.--[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] ([[User talk:Jcordell|talk]]) 15:57, 28 February 2017 (EST) | |||
[[File:Whitney-scharf-rifle-17.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Whitney-Scharf Rifle 1886-1888]] | |||
[[File:Marlin1881rifle.jpg|thumb|none|401px|Marlin Model 1881]] | |||
[[File:HOHW 27.jpg|thumb|none|800px]] | |||
[[File:HOHW 29.jpg|thumb|none|800px]] | |||
== Please help ID this pistol == | |||
Please help ID this pistol. --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] ([[User talk:Ben41|talk]]) 17:07, 1 March 2017 (EST) | |||
[[File:HOHW 36.jpg|thumb|none|900px]] | |||
:Looks like it could be a [[Kahr P9]] to me. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 17:34, 1 March 2017 (EST) | |||
== Other pistol == | |||
Anyone able to catch what pistol is being used by the old man during the second bank robbery? It appeared to be nickel Beretta Cheetah, not sure exactly which model. The actor also seemed to greatly exaggerate the recoil.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 17:18, 1 March 2017 (EST) | |||
[[File:HOHW 07.jpg|thumb|none|600px|What appears to be a [[Beretta 84FS]] is the pistol pulled by a bank customer during a bank robbery.]] | |||
[[File:HOHW 08.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Seen at the right.]] | |||
: Uh, I believe both IDs are straight - The first is ID'd on the page as an 84F/FS, which looks right to me. The other I believe is indeed a 92FS Inox. I had thought for a second that second gun had a rounded look to the muzzle making me think Ruger KP94/95, but it has a stainless trigger guard as well, which rules that out. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 01:40, 2 March 2017 (EST) | |||
I wasn't talking about that scene those caps show above. I was talking about the second robbery at the beginning of the film. When the old man brings his coins in and the teller checks them out, then the brothers come in and rob the place. Tanner tells Toby to search him and he pulls out a small silver pistol, which the old man later fires at them as they flee. I watched the scene repeatedly but you never get a real clear view of the gun that isn't blurred.--[[User:1911isthebestgunever|One shot is all it takes.]] ([[User talk:1911isthebestgunever|talk]]) 04:56, 2 March 2017 (EST) | |||
[[File:Hell_1.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
[[File:Hell_2.JPG|thumb|none|600px|]] | |||
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[[File:Hell_4.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Now that is recoil.]] | |||
In the scene at Jeff Bridge’s house he appears to take an SR9 compact out of his safe and put it in his belt. | |||
Latest revision as of 03:48, 15 December 2019
I've Just seen the movie, and I think That there is a continuity mistake during the first bank robbery, when the Smith and wesson 686 changes briefly to a s&w 65.Rafa (talk) 15:26, 1 January 2017 (EST)
The influence of advisor and former Texas Ranger Joaquin Jackson can be seen in the pistol (a Commander-style 1911), holster and grips used by Jeff Bridges, very similar to those used by Nick Nolte in Extreme Prejudice.
We should cut out the bit at the bottom of the screenshot of Alberto holding the AR. Kind of pretty big spoiler.--One shot is all it takes. (talk) 22:23, 26 February 2017 (EST)
Pistol
What's the pistol used by the thug at the gas station? Laqueesha (talk) 11:57, 15 December 2016 (EST)
- I think it is a Ruger p-90 or P-95 Rafa15:25, 1 January 2017
Please help ID
Please help ID this rifle. --Ben41 (talk) 16:26, 27 February 2017 (EST)
Fairly certain it's a Marlin Model 1881 lever action rifle. Note the loading gate and the shape of the lever. Pretty distinctive. Made between 1881 - 1891 in four calibers. There were two different frame sizes. The large frame was available in 45-70 Government, 45-85 and 40-60 Marlin.The medium frame was available in 32-40 and 38-55 Ballard. That one appears to be a large frame Model 1881. Marlin only made about 21,000 of this model and they are very collectible. An interesting choice and very cool.I created the page for the rifle and I've added the movie to it. I'll leave the rest to you since I haven't actually seen the film yet and therefore have no idea where it fits into the storyline. --Jcordell (talk) 20:41, 27 February 2017 (EST)
- I'm not so 100% sure that it actually is one. If you look at the receiver it looks like it has some extra pins or screws, a couple at the front of the receiver and one high up at the rear that are absent on the real Marlin 1881. Maybe it is a replica or a clone, but I can't find a match. --commando552 (talk) 13:39, 28 February 2017 (EST)
- It's not a Colt-Burgess rifle though. The loading gate is in the right place, but the CB was only made in 44-40 and the frame is too large for that caliber. I also keep looking at the shape of the lever itself. It's a tough one. I don't suppose there are any clearer screencaps?--Jcordell (talk) 15:38, 28 February 2017 (EST)
Okay one last possibility. IT might be a Whitney Scharf rifle. Whitney only built 2000 Scharf's from around 1886-1888 before being bought out by Winchester Repeating Arms which promptly dissolved this old and historic company.--Jcordell (talk) 15:57, 28 February 2017 (EST)
Please help ID this pistol
Please help ID this pistol. --Ben41 (talk) 17:07, 1 March 2017 (EST)
- Looks like it could be a Kahr P9 to me. --commando552 (talk) 17:34, 1 March 2017 (EST)
Other pistol
Anyone able to catch what pistol is being used by the old man during the second bank robbery? It appeared to be nickel Beretta Cheetah, not sure exactly which model. The actor also seemed to greatly exaggerate the recoil.--One shot is all it takes. (talk) 17:18, 1 March 2017 (EST)
- Uh, I believe both IDs are straight - The first is ID'd on the page as an 84F/FS, which looks right to me. The other I believe is indeed a 92FS Inox. I had thought for a second that second gun had a rounded look to the muzzle making me think Ruger KP94/95, but it has a stainless trigger guard as well, which rules that out. StanTheMan (talk) 01:40, 2 March 2017 (EST)
I wasn't talking about that scene those caps show above. I was talking about the second robbery at the beginning of the film. When the old man brings his coins in and the teller checks them out, then the brothers come in and rob the place. Tanner tells Toby to search him and he pulls out a small silver pistol, which the old man later fires at them as they flee. I watched the scene repeatedly but you never get a real clear view of the gun that isn't blurred.--One shot is all it takes. (talk) 04:56, 2 March 2017 (EST)
In the scene at Jeff Bridge’s house he appears to take an SR9 compact out of his safe and put it in his belt.