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== | =Additional Images= | ||
==Screen-Used== | |||
[[Image:Colt saa4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army w/ 7.5" barrel. This is the screen used gun used by [[Henry Fonda]] and [[Charles Bronson]] in ''[[Once Upon a Time in the West]]'', with nickel finish.)]] | |||
[[Image:Colt saa4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army w/ 7.5" barrel. This is the screen used gun used by [[Henry Fonda]] and [[Charles Bronson]] in [[Once Upon a Time in the West]], with nickel finish.)]] | [[Image:ColtSAA5inArtillary.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army w/ 5" barrel with blued finish. This is the screen used gun used by [[Jason Robards]] in the film ''[[Once Upon a Time in the West]]''.]] | ||
[[Image:ColtSAA5inArtillary.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army w/ 5" barrel with blued finish. This is the screen used gun used by [[Jason Robards]] in the film ''[[Once Upon a Time in the West]]'' | |||
[[Image:ColtSAACustomQuick&Dead.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The Custom engraved Colt Single Action army used by [[Lance Henriksen]] in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' - .45 LC.]] | [[Image:ColtSAACustomQuick&Dead.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The Custom engraved Colt Single Action army used by [[Lance Henriksen]] in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' - .45 LC.]] | ||
[[Image:TheQuickandtheDeadEMFHartfordSAALMO.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The EMF Hartford Single Action Army with an aluminum lightweight 4 3/4" barrel and nickel finish and holster used by [[Sharon Stone]] in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]''. - .45 Long Colt. Source: Supplied by Long Mountain Outfitters.]] | |||
[[Image:TheQuickandtheDeadCimmaronSAALMO.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The two Cimmaron Arms Single Action Army 4 3/4" Quickdraws with engraved nickel finishes and holsters used by [[Leonardo DiCaprio]] in ''[[The Quick and the Dead (1995)]]'' - .45 Long Colt. Source: Supplied by Long Mountain Outfitters.]] | |||
[[Image:HandOfGod.jpg|thumb|none|400px|One of the Single Action Army "Hand of God" live-firing revolvers used by [[Russell Crowe]] in ''[[3:10 to Yuma]]''.]] | |||
[[Image:ColtSAA Hidalgo.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Replica Colt Single Action Army Revolver - .45 Long Colt. This is the screen used gun, held and worn by [[Viggo Mortensen]] in ''[[Hidalgo]]''.]] | |||
[[Image:Small_killbill-Bird'shead.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Single Action Army .45 Long Colt with nickel finish, pearl "Bird's Head" grips, and custom muzzle brake. This is the actual screen-used pistol seen in the film ''[[Kill Bill Vol. 2]]''.]] | |||
[[Image:Earpbuntline.jpg|thumb|none|400px|EMF/Uberti Buntline Special used by [[Kurt Russell]] in the film ''Tombstone''. Due to the fact that current production Colt Buntlines are only available in 12" barrels, the film's armorer contacted EMF/Uberti to have three custom Buntlines made for ''Tombstone''. From the personal collection of the film's armorer [[Peter Sherayko]].]] | |||
[[Image:Montewalshcolt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1873 Single Action Army w. 7.5" barrel. This is the Hero Colt (Serial Number 4562. Mfd. 1874) used by [[Tom Selleck]] in ''[[Monte Walsh (2002)|Monte Walsh]].'']] | |||
[[File:Jamesgeorgopoulosexpendablesimfdb.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Custom Single Action Army - .45 Long Colt. This is the screen-used firearm first carried by [[Sylvester Stallone]] in ''[[The Expendables]]''. '''Thanks to [[User:Jimmygcreative|James Georgopoulos]]'''.]] | |||
[[File:Jamesgeorgopoulosthelonerangerimfdb.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Single Action Army Artillery - .45 Long Colt. This is one of the screen-used revolvers carried by [[Armie Hammer]] in ''[[The Lone Ranger (2013)]]''. '''Thanks to [[User:Jimmygcreative|James Georgopoulos]]'''.]] | |||
[[File:21640 r.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Single Action Army used by [[George Eads]] in [[Monte Walsh (2002)]]. Photo courtesy of NRA]] | |||
[[File:Red Sun Colt Alain Delon Collection.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Single Action Army used by [[Alain Delon]] in ''[[Red Sun]]''. Photo courtesy of [http://www.cornettedesaintcyr.fr Cornette de Saint Cyr].]] | |||
[[File:Red Sun Colt Holster Alain Delon Collection.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Belt and holster used by [[Alain Delon]] in ''[[Red Sun]]''. Photo courtesy of [http://www.cornettedesaintcyr.fr Cornette de Saint Cyr].]] | |||
==Colt Models== | |||
[[Image:PattonPistol 02.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Two custom Single Action Army revolvers with 4.75" barrel, ivory grips, and custom engravings - .45 Long Colt. The bottom is the 'hero gun' from ''[[Patton]]'', while the top is the actual SAA carried by Patton. Photograph courtesy of the Patton Museum of Cavalry and Armor, Fort Knox, KY.]] | |||
[[Image:Colt 1873 Civilian Model.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army "Quick Draw" - .45 Long Colt.]] | |||
[[Image:SAA3.5in.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Sheriff's Model Single Action Army w/ 3.5" barrel - .45 LC.]] | [[Image:SAA3.5in.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Sheriff's Model Single Action Army w/ 3.5" barrel - .45 LC.]] | ||
[[Image:Colt Single Action Army Custom Engraved Ivory 32-20 WCF.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army w/ 4.75" barrel, custom engraved with ivory - .32-20 Winchester]] | [[Image:Colt Single Action Army Custom Engraved Ivory 32-20 WCF.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army w/ 4.75" barrel, custom engraved with ivory - .32-20 Winchester]] | ||
[[File:Colt SAA with pearl grip.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army Artillery Model w/ 5.5" barrel - .38-40 Winchester.]] | |||
[[Image:Colt Single Action Army Quick-Draw 38 Special.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army w/ 4.75" barrel, referred to as "Quick-Draw" or "Civilian" model, custom engraved with ivory grips - .38 Special]] | [[Image:Colt Single Action Army Quick-Draw 38 Special.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army w/ 4.75" barrel, referred to as "Quick-Draw" or "Civilian" model, custom engraved with ivory grips - .38 Special]] | ||
[[Image:SingActArm2To.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Frontier Scout Revolver - .22 LR.]] | [[Image:SingActArm2To.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Frontier Scout Revolver - .22 LR.]] | ||
[[Image:ColtSAA HandOfGod.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army Fast Draw Model "Hand of God" - .45 LC]] | [[Image:ColtSAA HandOfGod.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army Fast Draw Model "Hand of God" - .45 LC]] | ||
[[File:BowenColtFlattopSA.jpg|thumb|none|400px| Flat-top target model with ivory grips. this specimen was manufactured in 1895. It can be seen at the Gene Autry museum.]] | [[File:BowenColtFlattopSA.jpg|thumb|none|400px| Flat-top target model with ivory grips. this specimen was manufactured in 1895. It can be seen at the Gene Autry museum.]] | ||
[[File:87 118 47 2.jpg|thumb|none| | [[File:87 118 47 2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Flat-top target model with ivory grips (left side)]] | ||
[[File:Colt Single Action Army.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army with wooden grips - .45 Long Colt]] | [[File:Colt Single Action Army.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army with wooden grips - .45 Long Colt]] | ||
[[Image:Colt Single Action Army Cavalry.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army w/ 7.5" barrel known as the "Cavalry" model with ivory grips]] | [[Image:Colt Single Action Army Cavalry.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army w/ 7.5" barrel known as the "Cavalry" model with ivory grips]] | ||
[[Image:SingleArmyAction IvoryGrips.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Single Action Army "Artillery" model with 5.5" barrel and ivory grips - .45 Long Colt]] | |||
[[File:Colt Peacemaker 22 6inch.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Peacemaker .22 (aka "G Series") with 6" barrel - .22LR / .22 Magnum]] | |||
[[Image:SAA Bisley Nickel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Nickel plated Bisley model Colt Single Action Army - .41 Long Colt]] | |||
[[File:Gold engraved SAA revolver.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Gold engraved Colt SAA revolver - .45 LC.]] | |||
==Replica Models== | |||
[[File:CimaronSAA ModP Nickel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Cimarron Model P (Copy of the Single Action Army) Nickel Finish - .45 Long Colt]] | |||
[[Image:Cimarron-Model P 7-1_2-38.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Cimarron Model P 7 1/2", a replica of Single Action Army "Cavalry" Model - .32-20/.38-40/.38 Special]] | |||
[[Image:Uberti_bird'shead.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Uberti Repicla Single Action Army sporting the bird's head grip modification to make the gun more concealable]] | |||
[[Image:Uberti_Cattleman_Bird's_Head.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Uberti 1873 Cattleman Bird's Head]] | |||
[[File:Uberti 1873 Cattleman Birds Head 4-3_4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Uberti 1873 Cattleman Bird's Head with [[Colt Lightning]] style grip and 4 3/4" barrel - .45 Long Colt]] | |||
[[Image:Uberti boxed 3.jpg|thumb|none|400px|An Uberti "Cattleman" replica of Colt SAA "Artillery" model.]] | |||
[[Image:SAA_Man_with_No_Name.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Uberti Replica of Colt Single Action Army 5 1/2" Artillery with rattlesnake grips carried by "The Man with No Name".]] | |||
[[Image:Uberti-343090-037084430904-2.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Uberti Replica of Colt Single Action Army 5 1/2" "Stallion".]] | |||
[[File:UbertiSAA.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Uberti Replica of the Single Action Army - .45 Long Colt]] | |||
[[File:Uberti Cattleman Nickel.jpg|400px|thumb|none|Uberti Cattleman Nickel - .45 LC.]] | |||
[[File:Uberti-1873-Cattleman-Hombre-New-Model.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Uberti 1873 Cattleman Hombre New Model with 4.75" barrel - .45 Colt]] | |||
[[File:Uberti 1873 Cattleman New Model 4-3_4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Uberti 1873 Cattleman Charcoal Blue New Model with 4.75" barrel - .45 Colt]] | |||
[[File:Uberti Jesse 1873 5-5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Uberti Outlaws & Lawmen "Jesse" 1873 Single Action Cattleman with 5.5" barrel - .45 Colt]] | |||
[[File:Uberti Cattleman Patina Old Model 5-5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Uberti Cattleman Old Model with Old West Patina finish, 5.5" barrel]] | |||
[[File:Chiappa SAA 1873.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Chiappa SAA 1873, a blank firing replica of Single Action Army - .22 blank]] | |||
[[Image:Colt SAA cow grips.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Helfricht Shop Engraved Colt SAA Revolver - .45 Long Colt]] | |||
[[File:Armi San Marco Single Action Army Cavalry Model.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Armi San Marco replica of Single Action Army "Cavalry" model.]] | |||
[[File:Umarex Colt SAA Nickel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Umarex Colt Single Action Army 45 Nickel - .177. A CO2 replica of Single Action Army "Artillery" Model revolver.]] | |||
[[File:Sauer Single Action Army Nickel 22.jpg|thumb|none|400px|J.P Sauer & Sohn "Western Sixshooter", a replica of Single Action Army with 5.5" barrel and nickel finish - .22 LR]] | |||
=== Denix Non-Firing Replica Models === | |||
[[Image:Denix-Peacemaker-4-75barrel-Nickel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Denix Peacemaker with 4.75" barrel]] | |||
[[File:Denix-Peacemaker-4_75barrel-Blued.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Denix Peacemaker with 4.75" barrel and "blue" finish]] | |||
[[File:Denix Peacemaker Artillery Grey.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Denix "Cal.45 Peacemaker 5 1/2", USA 1873" (model 1106/G) replica of Single Action Army "Artillery" Model. Note the grey surface and thick wooden grips with large screw.]] | |||
[[File:Denix Peacemaker-7-1_2 1873.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Denix "Cal.45 Peacemaker 7 1/2", USA 1873". A replica of Single Action Army Cavalry model.]] | |||
[[File:Denix Peacemaker Cavalry Grey.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Denix "Cal.45 Peacemaker 7 1/2", USA 1873" (model 1107/G) replica of Single Action Army "Cavalry" Model. Note the grey surface and thick wooden grips with large screw.]] | |||
[[File:Denix Peacemaker Cavalry Ivory-Grips.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Denix "Cal.45 Peacemaker 7 1/2", USA 1873" (model 1109/N) replica of Single Action Army "Cavalry" Model. Note the plastic grips imitating ivory.]] | |||
[[File:Denix Peacemaker Cavalry Gold.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Denix "Cal.45 Peacemaker 7 1/2", USA 1873" (model 1109/L) replica of Single Action Army "Cavalry" Model. Note the "gold plated" frame, dark grey cylinder and barrel and plastic grips.]] | |||
=Discussion= | |||
==We will be spending an eternity getting all the SAA entries== | ==We will be spending an eternity getting all the SAA entries== | ||
To get this current we are missing many instances of the SAA in the countless Westerns (or even non-westerns) films and Television shows, going all the way back to the Silent era. It will take a long time, but we must do it. Anyone familiar with the SAA's usage in film/television will immediately know that we've only mentioned a FRACTION of the times the SAA has appeared over the last 100 years of cinema. MPM2008 | To get this current we are missing many instances of the SAA in the countless Westerns (or even non-westerns) films and Television shows, going all the way back to the Silent era. It will take a long time, but we must do it. Anyone familiar with the SAA's usage in film/television will immediately know that we've only mentioned a FRACTION of the times the SAA has appeared over the last 100 years of cinema. MPM2008 | ||
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--[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 11:01, 17 December 2010 (UTC) | --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 11:01, 17 December 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Here's another one, which could've been directed at any Colt firearm, but was most likely meant in reference to the SAA: | |||
"'''Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, but Sam Colt made them equal.'''" | |||
[[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 21:42, 5 March 2018 (EST) | |||
I hear that second one as "God made all men, but Samuel Colt made all men equal." [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 00:22, 6 March 2018 (EST) | |||
== Appearances == | == Appearances == | ||
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Can this be done with any single-action revolver, or only on older models without the modern internal safeties? - [[User: 2wingo]] | Can this be done with any single-action revolver, or only on older models without the modern internal safeties? - [[User: 2wingo]] | ||
The transfer bar found on post-1958 Rugers and some other clones prevent this most of the time. [[User:Mike Searson|Mike Searson]] ([[User talk:Mike Searson|talk]]) 15:02, 5 January 2017 (EST) | |||
== What is this Variants ? == | == What is this Variants ? == | ||
--[[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] 21:56, 1 March 2014 (JST) | --[[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] 21:56, 1 March 2014 (JST) | ||
These, I believe, are Uberti replicas. - [[User:2wingo]] | These, I believe, are Uberti replicas. - [[User:2wingo]] | ||
I've been reading Stephen King's Dark Tower series and I envision Roland's revolvers being SAAs with swing-out cylinders. Does anyone else share this opinion? (I am only in book three, so please avoid spoilers) | I've been reading Stephen King's Dark Tower series and I envision Roland's revolvers being SAAs with swing-out cylinders. Does anyone else share this opinion? (I am only in book three, so please avoid spoilers)--[[User:H3nry8adger1982|H3nry8adger1982]] ([[User talk:H3nry8adger1982|talk]]) 11:00, 29 October 2016 (EDT)H3nry8adger1982 | ||
-- In the film adaptation, they'll be using cartridge-converted Remington 1858 New Armies, which have cylinders you can remove and swap out like speedloaders. - [[User:2wingo]] | |||
Can't you swap out SAA cylinders too? Or at least remove them for cleaning?--[[User:H3nry8adger1982|H3nry8adger1982]] ([[User talk:H3nry8adger1982|talk]]) 14:08, 5 January 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982 | |||
You have to use tools to remove the cylinder on a Colt, while a New Army's cylinder can be swapped out in the heat of battle. - [[User:2wingo]] | |||
:Not necessarily. The older Blackpowder frame, yes, because the base pin was held in place by a screw. Frames made after 1898 have a push pin release type of cylinder bolt as opposed to the screw found on the Blackpowder frame (pre 1898). You push in the release, pull out the cylinder pin and remove the cylinder. [[User:Mike Searson|Mike Searson]] ([[User talk:Mike Searson|talk]]) 15:01, 5 January 2017 (EST) | |||
::But aren't those really fragile and prone to breaking in comparison to screw pins? - [[User:2wingo]] | |||
:::I have yet to break one and I own Colt's over 100 years old that I have run in SASS matches and fired thousands of rounds from before realizing my one 1st Gen was valued in the low 5 figures. [[User:Mike Searson|Mike Searson]] ([[User talk:Mike Searson|talk]]) 17:38, 5 January 2017 (EST) | |||
I was really just wondering how other people envisioned the guns in the books regardless of the movie images and proper mechanics, because the story is, after all, fantasy.--[[User:H3nry8adger1982|H3nry8adger1982]] ([[User talk:H3nry8adger1982|talk]]) 16:26, 23 January 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982 | |||
== Calibers == | |||
I think the caliber listing needs some way of distinguishing the listing is period production and note separately what's "modern" production (however it be defined. Post 1945? Smokeless proofed? Not by Colt?) since virtually every rimmed handgun cartridge still in production prob has an SAA clone in it somewhere. --[[User:VladVladson|VladVladson]] ([[User talk:VladVladson|talk]]) 18:52, 14 June 2021 (EDT) | |||
From the Blue Book of Gun Values: | |||
The Colt SAA has been produced in 36 calibers. Of the standard manufacture 1st Generation SAAs (1873-1940), 42% are .45 Colt, followed by .44-40 (18%), .38-40 (11%), .32-20 (8%) and .41 (4.5%). For the 2nd generation SAAs (1965-1976), .45 Colt was the most popular, followed by .44 Special, .38 Special and .357 Magnum. The 3rd Generation SAAs (1976-present) have been manufactured in .45 Colt, .44-40, .44 Special, .38-40, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .32-20 and others. | |||
From Flayderman's Guide: | |||
Colt SAAs manufactured 1872-1940 were available in the standard calibers .45 Colt, .44-40, .38-40, .32-20, and .41. Less common calibers were .22 rimfire, .32 rimfire, .32 Colt, .32 S&W, .32-44, .38 Colt, .38 S&W, .38 Colt Special, .38 S&W Special, .38-44, .357 Magnum, .380 Eley, .44 smoothbore, .44 rimfire, .44 German, .44 Russian, .44 S&W, .44 S&W Special, .45 smoothbore, .45 ACP, .450 Boxer, .450 Eley, .455 Eley and .476 Eley. [[User:LJ|LJ]] ([[User talk:LJ|talk]]) 15:13, 15 June 2021 (EDT) | |||
==Nicknames== | |||
I thought "the gun that won the west" was the 1866 Yellowboy? [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 22:35, 11 February 2022 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 17:27, 7 January 2023
Additional Images
Screen-Used
Colt Models
Replica Models
Denix Non-Firing Replica Models
Discussion
We will be spending an eternity getting all the SAA entries
To get this current we are missing many instances of the SAA in the countless Westerns (or even non-westerns) films and Television shows, going all the way back to the Silent era. It will take a long time, but we must do it. Anyone familiar with the SAA's usage in film/television will immediately know that we've only mentioned a FRACTION of the times the SAA has appeared over the last 100 years of cinema. MPM2008
Makes me want to go back to bed just thinking about it. If I wasn't at work right now I would. Big job ahead of us.--Jcordell 16:12, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Colt Bisley
The Colt Bisley was not produced in Bisley. Bisley is not a factory, it's a world-famous shooting range and mecca for competitive shooting, so when they introduced a target model they called it the Bisley model. The only British-made Colts were percussion revolvers made between 1854-1856.
Fun little quote about the Single Action Army
Eh, I just thought I'd throw this in for a little bit of fun and praise to this firearm:
"Be not afraid of any man no matter what his size; when danger threatens, call on me, and I will equalize."
--ThatoneguyJosh 11:01, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
- Here's another one, which could've been directed at any Colt firearm, but was most likely meant in reference to the SAA:
"Abe Lincoln may have freed all men, but Sam Colt made them equal."
Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 21:42, 5 March 2018 (EST)
I hear that second one as "God made all men, but Samuel Colt made all men equal." Evil Tim (talk) 00:22, 6 March 2018 (EST)
Appearances
Wouldn't it make sense, regarding the sheer amount of appearances that this gun has, for someone to put them in lists by variant, then alphabetize those? --Sangheili1155 (talk) 15:16, 16 November 2012 (EST)
Ammo
How common is .45 Long Colt today? Spartan198 (talk) 17:36, 5 March 2013 (EST)
It's common enough honestly depends on the loads you're looking for, most of the online stuff is out but you'd be able to find some at local gunshops. --Black Irish Paddy (talk) 17:45, 5 March 2013 (EST).
- What exactly are "loads?" - User: 2wingo
The rounds, ammunition, cartridges, et al. Basically it's what you load in the brass to shoot, lots of different loads for .45 Colt. Hunting, target shooting, self defense. The sky's the limit dude. --Black Irish Paddy (talk) 10:51, 7 March 2013 (EST).
Fanning the hammer
Can this be done with any single-action revolver, or only on older models without the modern internal safeties? - User: 2wingo The transfer bar found on post-1958 Rugers and some other clones prevent this most of the time. Mike Searson (talk) 15:02, 5 January 2017 (EST)
What is this Variants ?
--KINKI'boy 21:56, 1 March 2014 (JST)
These, I believe, are Uberti replicas. - User:2wingo
I've been reading Stephen King's Dark Tower series and I envision Roland's revolvers being SAAs with swing-out cylinders. Does anyone else share this opinion? (I am only in book three, so please avoid spoilers)--H3nry8adger1982 (talk) 11:00, 29 October 2016 (EDT)H3nry8adger1982
-- In the film adaptation, they'll be using cartridge-converted Remington 1858 New Armies, which have cylinders you can remove and swap out like speedloaders. - User:2wingo
Can't you swap out SAA cylinders too? Or at least remove them for cleaning?--H3nry8adger1982 (talk) 14:08, 5 January 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982
You have to use tools to remove the cylinder on a Colt, while a New Army's cylinder can be swapped out in the heat of battle. - User:2wingo
- Not necessarily. The older Blackpowder frame, yes, because the base pin was held in place by a screw. Frames made after 1898 have a push pin release type of cylinder bolt as opposed to the screw found on the Blackpowder frame (pre 1898). You push in the release, pull out the cylinder pin and remove the cylinder. Mike Searson (talk) 15:01, 5 January 2017 (EST)
- But aren't those really fragile and prone to breaking in comparison to screw pins? - User:2wingo
- I have yet to break one and I own Colt's over 100 years old that I have run in SASS matches and fired thousands of rounds from before realizing my one 1st Gen was valued in the low 5 figures. Mike Searson (talk) 17:38, 5 January 2017 (EST)
I was really just wondering how other people envisioned the guns in the books regardless of the movie images and proper mechanics, because the story is, after all, fantasy.--H3nry8adger1982 (talk) 16:26, 23 January 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982
Calibers
I think the caliber listing needs some way of distinguishing the listing is period production and note separately what's "modern" production (however it be defined. Post 1945? Smokeless proofed? Not by Colt?) since virtually every rimmed handgun cartridge still in production prob has an SAA clone in it somewhere. --VladVladson (talk) 18:52, 14 June 2021 (EDT)
From the Blue Book of Gun Values:
The Colt SAA has been produced in 36 calibers. Of the standard manufacture 1st Generation SAAs (1873-1940), 42% are .45 Colt, followed by .44-40 (18%), .38-40 (11%), .32-20 (8%) and .41 (4.5%). For the 2nd generation SAAs (1965-1976), .45 Colt was the most popular, followed by .44 Special, .38 Special and .357 Magnum. The 3rd Generation SAAs (1976-present) have been manufactured in .45 Colt, .44-40, .44 Special, .38-40, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .32-20 and others.
From Flayderman's Guide: Colt SAAs manufactured 1872-1940 were available in the standard calibers .45 Colt, .44-40, .38-40, .32-20, and .41. Less common calibers were .22 rimfire, .32 rimfire, .32 Colt, .32 S&W, .32-44, .38 Colt, .38 S&W, .38 Colt Special, .38 S&W Special, .38-44, .357 Magnum, .380 Eley, .44 smoothbore, .44 rimfire, .44 German, .44 Russian, .44 S&W, .44 S&W Special, .45 smoothbore, .45 ACP, .450 Boxer, .450 Eley, .455 Eley and .476 Eley. LJ (talk) 15:13, 15 June 2021 (EDT)
Nicknames
I thought "the gun that won the west" was the 1866 Yellowboy? Spartan198 (talk) 22:35, 11 February 2022 (EST)