Talk:Warface: Difference between revisions
Talk:Warface: Difference between revisions - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games
Talk:Warface: Difference between revisions
--[[User:Mateogala|Emto_PL]] ([[User talk:Mateogala|talk]]) 03:22, 26 October 2016 (EDT)
:Mossberg 590 with a Sidewinder Venom kit installed. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 04:42, 26 October 2016 (EDT)
[[Image:Mossberg 500 Sidewinder.jpg|500px|thumb|none|Mossberg 500 with Sidewinder kit attachments - 12 gauge. Note the 10-round drum magazine, folding wire stock, and modified slide with an oblique vertical grip.]]
: Its "SIDEWINDER VENOM™ EQUIPPED [[Maverick Model 88|MAVERICK 88]]". [http://www.adaptivetactical.com/products/venom-10rndrotary-system.php Adaptive Tactical] --[[User:KINKI'boy|KINKI'boy]] ([[User talk:KINKI'boy|talk]]) 00:02, 27 October 2016 (JST)
::No, it isn't a Maverick 88, it is a Mossberg. The Maverick uses a cross bolt safety built into the trigger guard, whereas you can clearly see that this gun has the thumb safety on the top of the frame indicating that it is a Mossberg. Specifically it is a 590, based on the shape of the magazine tube end cap. They make a version of the kit for the 590, and a separate version for the 500/Maverick 88. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:50, 26 October 2016 (EDT)
:::Actually, on looking at it closely it may be a 500 incorrectly modelled with a 590 magazine end cap, as the mount of the magazine to the barrel looks more like a 500. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 13:58, 26 October 2016 (EDT)
:::: I agree, it looks like the 590 endcap slapped onto a 500 here. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 15:50, 26 October 2016 (EDT)
==The High Power==
I don't think that Hi Power is a Mark III. It looks more like a P35 with non-standard grips. At least compared to the example picture, the sights and safety are wrong. The sights are adjustable and the safety looks more the safety catch on my WETech FN P35. I think the grips may be Mark III grips, though, but that's the only thing I see. --[[User:Godzillafan93|That's the Way It's Done]] ([[User talk:Godzillafan93|talk]]) 20:25, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
:[[Image:Browning-Hi-Power.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Browning Hi-Power Mark III with Target sights - 9x19mm]] That's an image of a Mark III with the target sights. The safety looks also exactly the same on the model.
:[[Image:Browning HP West German Police.jpg|thumb|none|400px|West German Police Version of the Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm]] This is a standard BHP. You can see that the safety catch is different than the Mark III's. So effectively, this is a BHP Mark III than a P35. -[[User:SeptemberJack|SeptemberJack]] ([[User talk:SeptemberJack|talk]]) 21:19, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
::On a sidenote, why exactly is it that the reload consists of pulling back the slide, manually engaging the slide release, swapping mags, and then dropping the slide? I fail to see the logic. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 21:56, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
:::The Hi-Power reload seems pretty normal when you compare it to the SPAS-12's animations lol.--[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 10:51, 12 July 2017 (EDT)
::::Dear Christ... firing, automatically ejecting a shell, then pumping the shotgun, with the reload being the pump being pulled back, a speedloader being used, the charging handle (somehow still forward despite the pump being back) being pulled, then the pump being pushed forward... This is why we can't have nice things. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 13:37, 12 July 2017 (EDT)
==About East and West==
Is East version really a Russian one? Because if it is then this wiki-page in the beginning doesn't really have all of "real" names correct. [[User:Lunar Watcher|Lunar Watcher]] ([[User talk:Lunar Watcher|talk]]) 05:13, 2 May 2018 (EDT)
There are two versions of the game. European and Russian. The Russian version differs in updates (2-3 months difference). The Russian version has real gun names. The European version is backward with updates. It has incorrect weapon names.--[[User:Mateogala|Emto_PL]] ([[User talk:Mateogala|talk]]) 06:34, 2 May 2018 (EDT)
==About using skinned weapons in place of their standard version==
There's a few images on the page already with stuff from the crown weapon sets and whatnot, but how far does the line go with regards to using variants from skinned weapon series? I have some timed stuff from the Morion and Heat series but I'm not too sure with how well that'll blow over with how much they distract from the appearance of the base weapons. [[User:Fine cuisine|Fine cuisine]] ([[User talk:Fine cuisine|talk]]) 07:23, 4 July 2021 (EDT)
:I mean, as far as I can tell, they're just reskins, so they should be fine - default images would be preferable, but in situations like these where they aren't necessarily available, reskins aren't a problem - it'd only really be an issue if it actually changed the 3D model of the gun. [[User:Pyr0m4n14c|Pyr0m4n14c]] ([[User talk:Pyr0m4n14c|talk]]) 15:40, 4 July 2021 (EDT)
Broadly speaking, yes, but more specifically it looks like it is a Lone Star Arms build. --commando552 (talk) 16:55, 7 February 2016 (EST)
AUG A3 HBAR
Is there even an A3 variant of the AUG HBAR in real life? I looked up and saw this, but I'd like to know if it's real or just a photoshopped image. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 12:11, 7 February 2016 (EST)
That's a crappy image, but it doesn't look photoshoped. Could it be some kind of custom build?--AnActualAK47 (talk) 12:50, 21 February 2016 (EST)
I don't think there is an official A3 HBAR, but you could probably take the HBAR barrel with the bipod and put in an A3 upper receiver.AgentGumby (talk) 15:52, 21 February 2016 (EST)
I think that specific image is a photoshop, it comes from Small Arms Illustrated who use a lot of photoshops to manufacture clean side on images like this. The gun is real though, I believe based on this image. However, this is not an AUG A3 HBAR, but rather a civillian AUG Z A3 with a long "sniper" barrel. Not sure haow long the barrel is exactly, found some places claiming it is 20 inches but it looks longer than that to me, more like 24". --commando552 (talk) 16:07, 21 February 2016 (EST)
So while it is an AUG Z A3 w/ long barrel, there is no "AUG A3 HBAR" in reality? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 17:33, 21 February 2016 (EST)
I looked into it farther, and it turns out that the AUGs with the railed handguard like this are not actually "A3s" but rather "A3 CQCs". They were promoted by Steyr but in the end were never actually manufactured. They only made 5 prototypes for display and image that you see of genuine guns will all be of these which were made in a variety of configurations to demonstrate the modularity. Depending on what you read it was abandoned because of needless weight, cost, and the fact that in order to disassemble the gun for cleaning you had to remove the handguard which could be a PITA to get off and back on correctly. Replica ones are actually made by a company in the US now, but they were never an official Steyr product. The guns in the game do not have the rail so they are "real" A3s rather then the one pictured in the links above, and these were not made in an official "HBAR" variant. However, the weapon is totally modular so you could swap the barrels or rail systems from one gun to another so it would be possible to make this particular gun easily. --commando552 (talk) 21:11, 21 February 2016 (EST)
Alright, thanks man. So I guess we can say in the main page (as well as the Call of Duty Online page) that it's an AUG A3 assault rifle with an HBAR-style barrel. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 14:42, 22 February 2016 (EST)
No, it isn't a Maverick 88, it is a Mossberg. The Maverick uses a cross bolt safety built into the trigger guard, whereas you can clearly see that this gun has the thumb safety on the top of the frame indicating that it is a Mossberg. Specifically it is a 590, based on the shape of the magazine tube end cap. They make a version of the kit for the 590, and a separate version for the 500/Maverick 88. --commando552 (talk) 13:50, 26 October 2016 (EDT)
Actually, on looking at it closely it may be a 500 incorrectly modelled with a 590 magazine end cap, as the mount of the magazine to the barrel looks more like a 500. --commando552 (talk) 13:58, 26 October 2016 (EDT)
I agree, it looks like the 590 endcap slapped onto a 500 here. StanTheMan (talk) 15:50, 26 October 2016 (EDT)
The High Power
I don't think that Hi Power is a Mark III. It looks more like a P35 with non-standard grips. At least compared to the example picture, the sights and safety are wrong. The sights are adjustable and the safety looks more the safety catch on my WETech FN P35. I think the grips may be Mark III grips, though, but that's the only thing I see. --That's the Way It's Done (talk) 20:25, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
Error creating thumbnail: File missingBrowning Hi-Power Mark III with Target sights - 9x19mm That's an image of a Mark III with the target sights. The safety looks also exactly the same on the model.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingWest German Police Version of the Browning Hi-Power - 9x19mm This is a standard BHP. You can see that the safety catch is different than the Mark III's. So effectively, this is a BHP Mark III than a P35. -SeptemberJack (talk) 21:19, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
On a sidenote, why exactly is it that the reload consists of pulling back the slide, manually engaging the slide release, swapping mags, and then dropping the slide? I fail to see the logic. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 21:56, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
The Hi-Power reload seems pretty normal when you compare it to the SPAS-12's animations lol.--AgentGumby (talk) 10:51, 12 July 2017 (EDT)
Dear Christ... firing, automatically ejecting a shell, then pumping the shotgun, with the reload being the pump being pulled back, a speedloader being used, the charging handle (somehow still forward despite the pump being back) being pulled, then the pump being pushed forward... This is why we can't have nice things. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 13:37, 12 July 2017 (EDT)
About East and West
Is East version really a Russian one? Because if it is then this wiki-page in the beginning doesn't really have all of "real" names correct. Lunar Watcher (talk) 05:13, 2 May 2018 (EDT)
There are two versions of the game. European and Russian. The Russian version differs in updates (2-3 months difference). The Russian version has real gun names. The European version is backward with updates. It has incorrect weapon names.--Emto_PL (talk) 06:34, 2 May 2018 (EDT)
About using skinned weapons in place of their standard version
There's a few images on the page already with stuff from the crown weapon sets and whatnot, but how far does the line go with regards to using variants from skinned weapon series? I have some timed stuff from the Morion and Heat series but I'm not too sure with how well that'll blow over with how much they distract from the appearance of the base weapons. Fine cuisine (talk) 07:23, 4 July 2021 (EDT)
I mean, as far as I can tell, they're just reskins, so they should be fine - default images would be preferable, but in situations like these where they aren't necessarily available, reskins aren't a problem - it'd only really be an issue if it actually changed the 3D model of the gun. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 15:40, 4 July 2021 (EDT)
