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May I puts it on discussion page, for somebody will available using it later? [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 10:47, 29 May 2016 (EDT) | May I puts it on discussion page, for somebody will available using it later? [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 10:47, 29 May 2016 (EDT) | ||
: Yes, please. I still have plenty of screens, but I'm too lazy to upload them. I'll do it soon. [[User:DJ von CAHEK|DJ_von_CAHEK]] ([[User talk:DJ von CAHEK|talk]]) 11:49, 12 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
:: Oh by the way, I have a .txt file with, like, 15-20 weapons with links, screens and stuff. So in case we DO create the page, I'll paste it there. [[User:DJ von CAHEK|DJ_von_CAHEK]] ([[User talk:DJ von CAHEK|talk]]) 11:52, 12 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
:::Thank you very much! [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 11:59, 12 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
::::[[Talk:World of Guns: Gun Disassembly|Here]]. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 12:38, 12 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
:::::Many thanks for your effort. I'll combine my stuff with yours. [[User:DJ von CAHEK|DJ_von_CAHEK]] ([[User talk:DJ von CAHEK|talk]]) 16:36, 12 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Your experiences with the AKS-74U == | |||
Why was it so difficult for you to use the AKS-74U accurately? Was the rifling in the barrel worn out in the one you used? Did they force you to fire it in full-auto mode even though semiautomatic fire would be much easier to control? I would think that being a Soviet-designed weapon (and the Soviets were no slouches when it came to making their weapons effective) it would be designed to be easy to use well. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 17:13, 27 May 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Well, sorry for the very late reply, but my biggest issue with the AKSU's performance is that we did the ''exact same'' exercises as with the full-sized AK-74M, targets at 400 meter distance and all. Then again, the rifles were old, so add wear to the mixture. [[User:DJ von CAHEK|DJ_von_CAHEK]] ([[User talk:DJ von CAHEK|talk]]) 10:55, 2 July 2022 (EDT) | |||
Hmm, sounds like you got to use worn-out guns that might have been used extensively in the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. A CQB exercise might have been better suited for the AKS-74u. Did you ever get to try any Russian guns in 9x39mm caliber? --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 18:12, 3 July 2022 (EDT) | |||
:I was a tank driver, so I didn't have as much luck as my classmate claims to have had, having somehow served in recon, spetsnaz, and airborne, training with all sorts of weaponry he doesn't even remember the names of. We had regular AK-74Ms in the training center when we technically were considered infantry. In the "battle unit" we were issued the AKSU's which is standard issue for tank crews. They are indeed old, clumsy, and almost entirely useless. [[User:DJ von CAHEK|DJ_von_CAHEK]] ([[User talk:DJ von CAHEK|talk]]) 08:12, 4 July 2022 (EDT) | |||
Do Russian helicopter pilots also get AKS-74us? I can see where an AKS-74u wouldn't be very useful for a tank crew. You'd be very hard-pressed to use one of those to effectively return fire against infantry trying to shoot at you after bailing out of a tank disabled (if not outright destroyed) by an ATGM, which can have very long ranges. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 18:07, 5 July 2022 (EDT) | |||
:Yeah, looks like aircraft crews are also issued the AKS-74Us. You're not supposed to be actively trying to return fire with what essentially is a PDW; the Czechs developed the dinky Skorpion for vehicle crews and it's only marginally superior in firepower to a pistol because, frankly, they don't need a whole rifle. My main issue with the AKSU is how bulky it and its ammo is, especially for its role. You don't just cut off half of your rifle's barrel and pretend that it's good. With how many submachine guns Russia has developed you'd think they could afford to rearm the specialists with something less overkill. But the recent events show that corruption has rotten away all pretense of common sense over here. [[User:DJ von CAHEK|Alex_D]] ([[User talk:DJ von CAHEK|talk]]) 04:32, 6 July 2022 (EDT) | |||
A PDW is certainly better than nothing, but that can get pretty close to nothing when the enemy has so-called "overmatch" (is out of range of your weapons, but still in range of their weapons) over you. I do remember that the Russians made quite a few compact SMGs (such as the [[PP-2000]]) or compact assault rifles (such as the unsuppressed ones chambered in 9x39mm) that might fit into the PDW role, but last I checked, the overpressure 9x19mm AP loadings used in many Russian SMGs have very light bullets to achieve their AP abilities, and as such they lose that required velocity fairly quickly, limiting their effectiveness to short ranges. The compact 9x39mm assault rifles all use subsonic ammunition, which also gives those weapons a short effective range of around 400 metres. Perhaps a solution that is both compact and has enough effective range might have been the [[OTs-14_Groza|Groza bullpup]] chambered in 5.45x39mm? Yes, the "corruption culture" over there destroyed virtually all the common sense. --[[User:Mazryonh|Mazryonh]] ([[User talk:Mazryonh|talk]]) 15:11, 6 July 2022 (EDT) | |||
Latest revision as of 19:11, 6 July 2022
Screenshots
Please do not crop the screenshots. --Funkychinaman (talk) 09:06, 8 June 2013 (EDT)
- I should clarify, if we had a choice between a cropped screenshot and an uncropped screenshot, we'd go for the uncropped. If you want to reupload your images as new files rather than overwriting the existing ones, that'd be fine. --Funkychinaman (talk) 09:24, 8 June 2013 (EDT)
Game screenshots
Hello, DJ von CAHEK! I'm sorry, I have some question: you uploaded many good quality screenshots for still not exist game "World of Guns: Gun Disassembly".
May I puts it on discussion page, for somebody will available using it later? Pyramid Silent (talk) 10:47, 29 May 2016 (EDT)
- Yes, please. I still have plenty of screens, but I'm too lazy to upload them. I'll do it soon. DJ_von_CAHEK (talk) 11:49, 12 June 2016 (EDT)
- Oh by the way, I have a .txt file with, like, 15-20 weapons with links, screens and stuff. So in case we DO create the page, I'll paste it there. DJ_von_CAHEK (talk) 11:52, 12 June 2016 (EDT)
- Thank you very much! Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:59, 12 June 2016 (EDT)
- Here. Pyramid Silent (talk) 12:38, 12 June 2016 (EDT)
- Many thanks for your effort. I'll combine my stuff with yours. DJ_von_CAHEK (talk) 16:36, 12 June 2016 (EDT)
- Here. Pyramid Silent (talk) 12:38, 12 June 2016 (EDT)
- Thank you very much! Pyramid Silent (talk) 11:59, 12 June 2016 (EDT)
- Oh by the way, I have a .txt file with, like, 15-20 weapons with links, screens and stuff. So in case we DO create the page, I'll paste it there. DJ_von_CAHEK (talk) 11:52, 12 June 2016 (EDT)
Your experiences with the AKS-74U
Why was it so difficult for you to use the AKS-74U accurately? Was the rifling in the barrel worn out in the one you used? Did they force you to fire it in full-auto mode even though semiautomatic fire would be much easier to control? I would think that being a Soviet-designed weapon (and the Soviets were no slouches when it came to making their weapons effective) it would be designed to be easy to use well. --Mazryonh (talk) 17:13, 27 May 2021 (EDT)
- Well, sorry for the very late reply, but my biggest issue with the AKSU's performance is that we did the exact same exercises as with the full-sized AK-74M, targets at 400 meter distance and all. Then again, the rifles were old, so add wear to the mixture. DJ_von_CAHEK (talk) 10:55, 2 July 2022 (EDT)
Hmm, sounds like you got to use worn-out guns that might have been used extensively in the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. A CQB exercise might have been better suited for the AKS-74u. Did you ever get to try any Russian guns in 9x39mm caliber? --Mazryonh (talk) 18:12, 3 July 2022 (EDT)
- I was a tank driver, so I didn't have as much luck as my classmate claims to have had, having somehow served in recon, spetsnaz, and airborne, training with all sorts of weaponry he doesn't even remember the names of. We had regular AK-74Ms in the training center when we technically were considered infantry. In the "battle unit" we were issued the AKSU's which is standard issue for tank crews. They are indeed old, clumsy, and almost entirely useless. DJ_von_CAHEK (talk) 08:12, 4 July 2022 (EDT)
Do Russian helicopter pilots also get AKS-74us? I can see where an AKS-74u wouldn't be very useful for a tank crew. You'd be very hard-pressed to use one of those to effectively return fire against infantry trying to shoot at you after bailing out of a tank disabled (if not outright destroyed) by an ATGM, which can have very long ranges. --Mazryonh (talk) 18:07, 5 July 2022 (EDT)
- Yeah, looks like aircraft crews are also issued the AKS-74Us. You're not supposed to be actively trying to return fire with what essentially is a PDW; the Czechs developed the dinky Skorpion for vehicle crews and it's only marginally superior in firepower to a pistol because, frankly, they don't need a whole rifle. My main issue with the AKSU is how bulky it and its ammo is, especially for its role. You don't just cut off half of your rifle's barrel and pretend that it's good. With how many submachine guns Russia has developed you'd think they could afford to rearm the specialists with something less overkill. But the recent events show that corruption has rotten away all pretense of common sense over here. Alex_D (talk) 04:32, 6 July 2022 (EDT)
A PDW is certainly better than nothing, but that can get pretty close to nothing when the enemy has so-called "overmatch" (is out of range of your weapons, but still in range of their weapons) over you. I do remember that the Russians made quite a few compact SMGs (such as the PP-2000) or compact assault rifles (such as the unsuppressed ones chambered in 9x39mm) that might fit into the PDW role, but last I checked, the overpressure 9x19mm AP loadings used in many Russian SMGs have very light bullets to achieve their AP abilities, and as such they lose that required velocity fairly quickly, limiting their effectiveness to short ranges. The compact 9x39mm assault rifles all use subsonic ammunition, which also gives those weapons a short effective range of around 400 metres. Perhaps a solution that is both compact and has enough effective range might have been the Groza bullpup chambered in 5.45x39mm? Yes, the "corruption culture" over there destroyed virtually all the common sense. --Mazryonh (talk) 15:11, 6 July 2022 (EDT)