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::"AK-47"s seems to be the AK-74Ms, just for some reason deprived of his muzzle brakes. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 10:27, 2 April 2016 (EDT) | ::"AK-47"s seems to be the AK-74Ms, just for some reason deprived of his muzzle brakes. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 10:27, 2 April 2016 (EDT) | ||
:::Also, most of the "AKS-74U"s is actually the [[AK-104]]s or [[AK-105]]s, but I can not determine '''precisely''' because of the very strong similarities. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 14:48, 3 April 2016 (EDT) | :::Also, most of the "AKS-74U"s is actually the [[AK-104]]s or [[AK-105]]s, but I can not determine '''precisely''' because of the very strong similarities. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 14:48, 3 April 2016 (EDT) | ||
::::But the AK rifles, that was used by militia absolutely are equiped by folding stock. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 15:25, 3 April 2016 (EDT) | |||
Why did you identify the gun fired by Kolyan as Fort-12? Actually it is Browning BDA9. Look at your own screenshot, the gun on them has clearly longer barrel and lacks all of Fort-12 features. Yes, the Fort-12 is based on CZ-75 which was, in turn, made after Browning Hi-Power, but still... sorry, I couldn't help but to fix it. By the way, I wanted to start a page for Truckers too, but now that you created it, I am truly grateful. [[User:SilverFox|SilverFox]] ([[User_talk:SilverFox|talk]]) 22:19, 19 January 2015 (UTC) | Why did you identify the gun fired by Kolyan as Fort-12? Actually it is Browning BDA9. Look at your own screenshot, the gun on them has clearly longer barrel and lacks all of Fort-12 features. Yes, the Fort-12 is based on CZ-75 which was, in turn, made after Browning Hi-Power, but still... sorry, I couldn't help but to fix it. By the way, I wanted to start a page for Truckers too, but now that you created it, I am truly grateful. [[User:SilverFox|SilverFox]] ([[User_talk:SilverFox|talk]]) 22:19, 19 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
::It's not a Browning BDA as BDA has sloped forend of the frame while the screen pistol has a straight one. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 03:45, 6 February 2015 (EST) | ::It's not a Browning BDA as BDA has sloped forend of the frame while the screen pistol has a straight one. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 03:45, 6 February 2015 (EST) | ||
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::I'll admit it looks weird with the first one, but the other two look okay. (What aspect ratio is SD TV in Russia supposed to be in?) --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 16:27, 19 January 2015 (EST) | ::I'll admit it looks weird with the first one, but the other two look okay. (What aspect ratio is SD TV in Russia supposed to be in?) --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 16:27, 19 January 2015 (EST) | ||
:::The correct aspect ratio is 1.33:1. But [http://www.kino-teatr.ru/movie/kadr/1581/407088.jpg this one] seems to have correct ratio (the muzzle of the pistol is round), and it is 1.4:1 (484x346 px). I guess that it's a common problem: while DVD is seen correct on TV set, the screenshots are stretched. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 16:46, 19 January 2015 (EST) | :::The correct aspect ratio is 1.33:1. But [http://www.kino-teatr.ru/movie/kadr/1581/407088.jpg this one] seems to have correct ratio (the muzzle of the pistol is round), and it is 1.4:1 (484x346 px). I guess that it's a common problem: while DVD is seen correct on TV set, the screenshots are stretched. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 16:46, 19 January 2015 (EST) | ||
Also still missing ("non-canonical") episode 3, where there are a bunch of different guns. I had an idea to deal with it, but my hands still haven't reached it. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 09:45, 24 January 2020 (EST) | |||
== Unknown pistols == | |||
I'm not sure, but I guess: | |||
* The fisrt one: lock similar a some [[Glock]] variant, possible a replica or airsoft gun. | |||
[[File:Tr E3S3 P1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
[[File:Tr E3S3 P2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
[[File:Tr S03E08 Pistol42.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Thug with pistol in S03E08.]] | |||
* The second and the fourth handguns, possible the single movie prop, some Walther model, I couldn't ID the exact model: | |||
[[File:Tr E3S3 Pistol3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
[[File:Tr S03E08 Pistol2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
[[File:Tr S03E08 Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
* The third one: couldn'e say nothing. | |||
[[File:Tr S03E07 Pistol.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
* The fifth one: locks partly similar to [[Jericho 941]] series, also, could ID the exact model. | |||
[[File:Tr S03E08 Pistol3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
* The last one: locks similar to several [[Beretta 80 Series Pistols - "Cheetah"]] pistols, but some details (like the position of the safety on the slide) differ so, possible it's some replica. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 12:23, 1 February 2020 (EST) | |||
[[File:TrS3E11 1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | |||
Maybe, it's useful information. [[User:Pyramid Silent|Pyramid Silent]] ([[User talk:Pyramid Silent|talk]]) 12:23, 1 February 2020 (EST) |
Latest revision as of 17:23, 1 February 2020
Some Comments
First, the screenshots have wrong aspect ratio, looking flattened. Second, Fort-12 is most likely a less-than-lethal Fort-12P or Fort-12T in 9mm P.A. caliber. Third, I cannot identify the revolver but it doesn't look like S&W Model 17. I guess that it's also some less-that-lethal gun which are widely used in modern Russian movies due to their cheapness and availability. Greg-Z (talk) 15:33, 10 September 2014 (EDT)
- Original AKs never had black furniture. I guess that these are Saiga-M or -MK semi auto carbines. Greg-Z (talk) 13:24, 5 October 2014 (EDT)
This is can be Chinese Type 56? FARID (talk) 21:55, 6 October 2014 (EDT)
- I don't think that Russian moviemakers would use Chinese AKs when there is a lot of domestic AKs and AK-style rifles available. Greg-Z (talk) 14:32, 6 October 2014 (EDT)
- "AK-47"s seems to be the AK-74Ms, just for some reason deprived of his muzzle brakes. --Slon95 (talk) 10:27, 2 April 2016 (EDT)
- Also, most of the "AKS-74U"s is actually the AK-104s or AK-105s, but I can not determine precisely because of the very strong similarities. --Slon95 (talk) 14:48, 3 April 2016 (EDT)
- But the AK rifles, that was used by militia absolutely are equiped by folding stock. Pyramid Silent (talk) 15:25, 3 April 2016 (EDT)
- Also, most of the "AKS-74U"s is actually the AK-104s or AK-105s, but I can not determine precisely because of the very strong similarities. --Slon95 (talk) 14:48, 3 April 2016 (EDT)
- "AK-47"s seems to be the AK-74Ms, just for some reason deprived of his muzzle brakes. --Slon95 (talk) 10:27, 2 April 2016 (EDT)
Why did you identify the gun fired by Kolyan as Fort-12? Actually it is Browning BDA9. Look at your own screenshot, the gun on them has clearly longer barrel and lacks all of Fort-12 features. Yes, the Fort-12 is based on CZ-75 which was, in turn, made after Browning Hi-Power, but still... sorry, I couldn't help but to fix it. By the way, I wanted to start a page for Truckers too, but now that you created it, I am truly grateful. SilverFox (talk) 22:19, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
I experimented with some aspect ratios, and it appears that 4:3 is the proper aspect ratio, being that this is a standard def TV series. See the three that I have corrected. Please corrected and reupload the existing caps. Please see instructions on resizing caps and aspect ration here. This page will be in WIP until this is done. Thanks. --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:40, 19 January 2015 (EST)
- 4:3 appears to be too stretched vertically. Greg-Z (talk) 16:23, 19 January 2015 (EST)
- I'll admit it looks weird with the first one, but the other two look okay. (What aspect ratio is SD TV in Russia supposed to be in?) --Funkychinaman (talk) 16:27, 19 January 2015 (EST)
Also still missing ("non-canonical") episode 3, where there are a bunch of different guns. I had an idea to deal with it, but my hands still haven't reached it. --Slon95 (talk) 09:45, 24 January 2020 (EST)
Unknown pistols
I'm not sure, but I guess:
- The fisrt one: lock similar a some Glock variant, possible a replica or airsoft gun.
- The second and the fourth handguns, possible the single movie prop, some Walther model, I couldn't ID the exact model:
- The third one: couldn'e say nothing.
- The fifth one: locks partly similar to Jericho 941 series, also, could ID the exact model.
- The last one: locks similar to several Beretta 80 Series Pistols - "Cheetah" pistols, but some details (like the position of the safety on the slide) differ so, possible it's some replica. Pyramid Silent (talk) 12:23, 1 February 2020 (EST)
Maybe, it's useful information. Pyramid Silent (talk) 12:23, 1 February 2020 (EST)