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'''''Wild Geese II''''' is a 1985 British action thriller directed by Peter R. Hunt (''[[Death Hunt]]''). A group of mercenaries, led by former Lebanese soldier John Haddad ([[Scott Glenn]]), is hired to rescue Rudolf Hess ([[Laurence Olivier]]), the only surviving leader of Nazi Germany from Spandau Prison in West Berlin. Several rival forces, including an East German-supported terrorist Karl Stroebling (Robert Freitag) and high-ranking British officer Reed-Henry ([[Kenneth Haigh]]), are interested in releasing Hess, so Haddad's task is especially complicated.
'''''Wild Geese II''''' is a 1985 British action thriller directed by Peter R. Hunt (''[[Death Hunt]]''). A group of mercenaries, led by former Lebanese soldier John Haddad ([[Scott Glenn]]), is hired to rescue Rudolf Hess ([[Laurence Olivier]]), the only surviving leader of Nazi Germany from Spandau Prison in West Berlin. Several rival forces, including an East German-supported terrorist Karl Stroebling (Robert Freitag) and high-ranking British officer Reed-Henry ([[Kenneth Haigh]]), are interested in releasing Hess, so Haddad's task is especially complicated.


This film was planned as a direct sequel to ''[[The Wild Geese]]'', with [[Richard Burton]] and [[Roger Moore]] reprising their roles from the original. When Moore declined to participate due to his dislike of the script, and Burton passed away just before shooting started, the Allen Faulkner character was substituted with Alex Faulkner ([[Edward Fox]]), Allen's younger brother. As a result, ''Wild Geese II'' only has a passing relation to the original ''The Wild Geese''.
This film was planned as a direct sequel to ''[[The Wild Geese]]'', with [[Richard Burton]] and [[Roger Moore]] reprising their roles from the original. Roger Moore declined to participate due to his dislike of a script that depicted a Nazi War Criminal being rescued, [[Lewis Collins]] was initially hired but American distributors demanded an American co-lead and [[Scott Glenn]] replaced Collins. Richard Burton, who had been in ill health for some time and the script and prop sniper rifle had especially been altered to suit this, passed away at his home in Switzerland two days before shooting commenced in Berlin. Producer Euan Lloyd remembered a conversation with Burton where they discussed their admiration for the leading actor in [[The Day of the Jackal]], so Allen Faulkner's character was substituted with his younger brother Alex Faulkner ([[Edward Fox]]). As a result, ''Wild Geese II'' only has a passing relation to the original ''The Wild Geese''.


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[[File:Wild Geese II-Enfield-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close view of the revolver.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Enfield-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close view of the revolver.]]


== Smith & Wesson Model 36==
== Smith & Wesson Model 36/Arminius HW-37 ==
In several scenes, Stroebling's henchmen use snub nose revolvers that resemble the [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]].
In several scenes, Stroebling's henchmen use snub nose revolvers that resemble the [[Smith & Wesson Model 36]]. As the movie was filmed in Germany, [[Arminius HW-37]] blank firing revolver, styled after S&W Model 36, is even more possible guess.
[[Image:M36.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]]
[[Image:M36.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special]]
[[File:Arminius HW37.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Arminius HW-37 - 9mm K blank firing]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Revolver-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A henchman fires his revolver. The heavy smoke hampers the proper identification of the gun.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Revolver-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A henchman fires his revolver. The heavy smoke hampers the proper identification of the gun.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Revolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A revolver is seen next to dead henchman.  This is likely a stunt prop replica.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Revolver-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A revolver is seen next to dead henchman.  This is likely a stunt prop replica.]]
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= Pistols =
= Pistols =
== Faulkner's Rifle (Safari Arms M1911) ==
== Faulkner's Rifle (Safari Arms M1911) ==
Throughout the movie Alex Faulkner ([[Edward Fox]]) uses a suppressed sniper rifle. It appears to be a [[Safari Arms M1911]] pistol in 'Survivor' Rifle kit, fitted with a sniper scope and (obviously fake) soung suppressor. The gun was provided by Don McNabb Sr., the founder of Safari Arms.
Throughout the movie Alex Faulkner ([[Edward Fox]]) uses a suppressed sniper rifle. It appears to be a [[Safari Arms M1911]] pistol in 'Survivor' Rifle kit, fitted with a sniper scope and (obviously fake) sound suppressor. The gun was provided by Don McNabb Sr., the founder of Safari Arms. This lightweight 'sniper rifle' was used because the film's original star, Richard Burton had recently had surgery on his spine and was struggling to hold objects.
 
[[File:SafariMatch.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Safari Arms Matchmaster with Wood Grips - .45 ACP]]
[[File:SafariMatch.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Safari Arms Matchmaster with Wood Grips - .45 ACP]]
[[File:Safari Arms Survivial Rifle Kit.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Safari Arms 'Survivor' Rifle Kit]]
[[File:Safari Arms Survivial Rifle Kit.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Safari Arms 'Survivor' Rifle Kit]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first appearance of Alex Faulkner with his sniper rifle.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The first appearance of Alex Faulkner with his sniper rifle in a scene supposed to be depicting Munich but in fact shot in Berlin.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close view of the gun. T-shape side handle is seen.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close view of the gun. T-shape side handle is seen.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun among other weapons and equipment.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun among other weapons and equipment.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good view of the suppressor.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good view of the suppressor. This scene was performed by a stuntman as Edward Fox had yet to be cast when it was shot on the first day of principal photography in Berlin.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Faulkner aims. The buttstock is seen.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Faulkner Rifle-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Faulkner aims. The buttstock is seen. Note the T-Bar cocking handle doesn't move indicating the actor is 'pretending' to shoot and the sound effect is added in post production.]]
[[File:85302 full.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Alex Faulkner ([[Edward Fox]]) holds his gun on a promotional image.]]


== Heckler & Koch P7 ==
== Heckler & Koch P7 ==
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[[File:Wild Geese II-Uzi-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed-Henry with a suppressed Uzi.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Uzi-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Reed-Henry with a suppressed Uzi.]]


== Sa.25 ==
== Sa 25 ==
An [[Sa.25]] SMG is seen among the weapons, provided by Alex Faulkner. It isn't used by Haddad and his men. In one scene a Palestinian gunman, hunting for Haddad, is armed with an Sa.25.
An [[Sa 25]] SMG is seen among the weapons, provided by Alex Faulkner. It isn't used by Haddad and his men. In one scene a Palestinian gunman, hunting for Haddad, is armed with an Sa.25.
[[Image:CzechSA24 SMG.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Czech Sa.25 - 9x19mm; the slide on the front handguard is a speedloader for magazines.]]
 
[[File:Wild Geese II-SA25-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Sa.25 is seen at the left.]]
[[File:Sa 25.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Sa 25 - 9x19mm]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-SA25-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Palestinian gunman holds an Sa.25.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-SA25-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Sa 25 is seen at the left.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-SA25-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Palestinian gunman holds an Sa 25.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-SA25-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the same scene.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-SA25-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another view of the same scene.]]


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[[File:Wild Geese II-Wild Geese-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary at the foreground holds an L1A1 with wooden stock.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Wild Geese-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mercenary at the foreground holds an L1A1 with wooden stock.]]


== FN LAR ==
== FN FAL==
[[FN LAR]] rifles are seen in footage from original ''[[The Wild Geese]]''.
[[FN FAL]] rifles are seen in footage from original ''[[The Wild Geese]]''.
[[Image:FN-LAR-with-Wood-Stock.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Original FN LAR (Light Automatic Rifle) - full auto rifle with Wooden buttstock - 7.62x51mm NATO]]
[[File:FN-LAR-with-Wood-Stock.jpg|thumb|none|400px|FN FAL with G1/StG 58 foreend and wooden buttstock - 7.62x51mm NATO. Note the folded bipod.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Wild Geese-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Col. Allen Faulkner ([[Richard Burton]]) holds an FN LAR.]]
[[File:Wild Geese II-Wild Geese-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Col. Allen Faulkner ([[Richard Burton]]) holds an FN FAL.]]


== FN FAL 50.00 ==
== FN FAL 50.00 ==

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Wild Geese II
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Theatrical Release Poster
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Directed by Peter R. Hunt
Release Date 1985
Language English
Studio Frontier Films
Thorn EMI Screen Entertainment
Main Cast
Character Actor
John Haddad Scott Glenn
Kathy Lukas Barbara Carrera
Alex Faulkner Edward Fox
Rudolf Hess Laurence Olivier
Karl Stroebling Robert Freitag
Reed-Henry Kenneth Haigh
Michael Lukas John Terry
Robert McCann Robert Webber


Wild Geese II is a 1985 British action thriller directed by Peter R. Hunt (Death Hunt). A group of mercenaries, led by former Lebanese soldier John Haddad (Scott Glenn), is hired to rescue Rudolf Hess (Laurence Olivier), the only surviving leader of Nazi Germany from Spandau Prison in West Berlin. Several rival forces, including an East German-supported terrorist Karl Stroebling (Robert Freitag) and high-ranking British officer Reed-Henry (Kenneth Haigh), are interested in releasing Hess, so Haddad's task is especially complicated.

This film was planned as a direct sequel to The Wild Geese, with Richard Burton and Roger Moore reprising their roles from the original. Roger Moore declined to participate due to his dislike of a script that depicted a Nazi War Criminal being rescued, Lewis Collins was initially hired but American distributors demanded an American co-lead and Scott Glenn replaced Collins. Richard Burton, who had been in ill health for some time and the script and prop sniper rifle had especially been altered to suit this, passed away at his home in Switzerland two days before shooting commenced in Berlin. Producer Euan Lloyd remembered a conversation with Burton where they discussed their admiration for the leading actor in The Day of the Jackal, so Allen Faulkner's character was substituted with his younger brother Alex Faulkner (Edward Fox). As a result, Wild Geese II only has a passing relation to the original The Wild Geese.


The following weapons were used in the film Wild Geese II:


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Revolvers

Enfield No.2 Mk.1*

Regimental Sergeant Major James Murphy (Paul Antrim), a warden in Spandau Prison, carries an Enfield No.2 Mk.1* revolver. Holsters for Enfield revolvers are seen on belts of real and fake British MPs but they appear to be empty.

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Enfield No.2 Mk.1* - .38 S&W
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Murphy takes aim.
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A close view of the revolver.

Smith & Wesson Model 36/Arminius HW-37

In several scenes, Stroebling's henchmen use snub nose revolvers that resemble the Smith & Wesson Model 36. As the movie was filmed in Germany, Arminius HW-37 blank firing revolver, styled after S&W Model 36, is even more possible guess.

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Smith & Wesson Model 36 - .38 Special
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Arminius HW-37 - 9mm K blank firing
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A henchman fires his revolver. The heavy smoke hampers the proper identification of the gun.
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A revolver is seen next to dead henchman. This is likely a stunt prop replica.

Pistols

Faulkner's Rifle (Safari Arms M1911)

Throughout the movie Alex Faulkner (Edward Fox) uses a suppressed sniper rifle. It appears to be a Safari Arms M1911 pistol in 'Survivor' Rifle kit, fitted with a sniper scope and (obviously fake) sound suppressor. The gun was provided by Don McNabb Sr., the founder of Safari Arms. This lightweight 'sniper rifle' was used because the film's original star, Richard Burton had recently had surgery on his spine and was struggling to hold objects.

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Safari Arms Matchmaster with Wood Grips - .45 ACP
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Safari Arms 'Survivor' Rifle Kit
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The first appearance of Alex Faulkner with his sniper rifle in a scene supposed to be depicting Munich but in fact shot in Berlin.
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A close view of the gun. T-shape side handle is seen.
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The gun among other weapons and equipment.
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A good view of the suppressor. This scene was performed by a stuntman as Edward Fox had yet to be cast when it was shot on the first day of principal photography in Berlin.
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Faulkner aims. The buttstock is seen. Note the T-Bar cocking handle doesn't move indicating the actor is 'pretending' to shoot and the sound effect is added in post production.
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Alex Faulkner (Edward Fox) holds his gun on a promotional image.

Heckler & Koch P7

A Heckler & Koch P7 is John Haddad's (Scott Glenn) sidearm. In one scene he uses the pistol fitted with a sound suppressor.

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Heckler & Koch P7 - 9x19mm
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Haddad examines the pistol.
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The pistol in holster.

Luger P08

Several of Stroebling's henchmen carry Luger P08 pistols.

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Luger P08 - 9x19mm
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A henchman carries a Luger in shoulder holster.
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He draws the pistol.
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The Luger on the floor.

Walther P38

While disguised as a British MP, Joseph (David Lumsden), one of Haddad's men, carries a Walther P38.

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Walther P38 pistol (manufactured at the Mauser Factory) - World War II dated - 9x19mm
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Joseph in disguise holds a Walther.

Walther PP

What appears to be a Walther PP is seen in hands of one of Stroebling's henchmen in the scene of Haddad's kidnapping.

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War Time Walther PP Pistol
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A henchman draws his pistol.
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He fires at escaping Haddad.

Reck Commander

Stroebling's henchwoman (Ingrid Pitt), posing as a hooker, carries a pistol that looks mostly like a Colt Commander but has an external extractor. It appears to be blank firing Reck Commander. Reck Commanders are also seen in hands of other Stroebling's henchmen.

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Reck Commander - 8mmK blank firing
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The henchwoman holds Haddad at gunpoint. The external extractor is seen.
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The pistol on pavement.
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A henchman aims his pistol.
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A view from another side.
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Supposedly the same pistol (at least the grips look similar) is hold by Stroebling's driver (Dan van Husen).

M1911-style pistol

Several M1911-style pistols are used throughout the film. Joseph (David Lumsden), one of Haddad's men, is seen with an M1911A1-style pistol in one scene. When Col. Reed-Henry (Kenneth Haigh) meets Soviet general and KGB high rank official (Michael Harbour), the latter takes a 1911-style pistol from Reed-Henry's holster

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Joseph holds a pistol at the background. It appears to be a standard length M1911 version, and it appears to have adjustable sights.
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Reed-Henry's pistol in hands of KGB official.
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Another view of the same scene.
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The grip is seen when the KGB official holds the pistol.

Unknown pistol

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A pistol is seen in holster of a border guard officer in West Berlin-Tegel airport.

Submachine Guns

Uzi

Haddad (Scott Glenn) and Faulkner (Edward Fox) use Uzi SMGs in several scenes. Uzi are also seen in hands of Stroebling's henchmen. Reed-Henry (Kenneth Haigh) uses a suppressed Uzi. Uzi are also seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.

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IMI Uzi with buttstock collapsed - 9x19mm
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Col. Allen Faulkner (Richard Burton) holds an Uzi in footage from The Wild Geese.
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Haddad holds an Uzi.
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Faulkner with an Uzi.
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Haddad, disguised as British MP, carries an Uzi with extended buttstock.
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Stroebling's henchman at the right carries an Uzi.
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Reed-Henry with a suppressed Uzi.

Sa 25

An Sa 25 SMG is seen among the weapons, provided by Alex Faulkner. It isn't used by Haddad and his men. In one scene a Palestinian gunman, hunting for Haddad, is armed with an Sa.25.

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Sa 25 - 9x19mm
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An Sa 25 is seen at the left.
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A Palestinian gunman holds an Sa 25.
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Another view of the same scene.

Madsen M50

Madsen M50 SMGs are seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.

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Madsen M50 - 9x19mm
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A mercenary in center holds a Madsen.

Sterling L2A1

Sterling L2A1 SMGs are seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.

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Sterling Submachine Gun - 9x19mm
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A mercenary in center holds a Sterling.

Rifles

M16 Carbine

Some carbine version of M16 is carried by an American MP guard in Spandau Prison. The telescoping stock is seen but the barrel is not, so it's hard to identify the exact model. Colt Model 653 is a possible guess for mid-1980s.

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Colt Model 653 "M16A1 Carbine" - 5.56x45mm
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A guard in the middle carries an M16 Carbine. The MP at the right carries what appears to be a MGC M16.

MGC M16

What appears to be MGC M16 non firing replica is carried by an American MP.

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The MGC M16 Assault rifle, a non firing metal replica built by the Model Gun Corp of Japan
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An MP with M16 on sling patrols the courtyard.

AKMS

An East German border guard holds an AKMS in the scene in Berlin-Schönefeld airport.

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AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm
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L1A1 SLR

L1A1 SLR rifles are seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.

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British Inch Pattern L1A1 SLR (Self Loading Rifle) chambered in 7.62x51mm
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Samuels (Brook Williams) at the left fires an L1A1.
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A mercenary at the foreground holds an L1A1 with wooden stock.

FN FAL

FN FAL rifles are seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.

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FN FAL with G1/StG 58 foreend and wooden buttstock - 7.62x51mm NATO. Note the folded bipod.
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Col. Allen Faulkner (Richard Burton) holds an FN FAL.

FN FAL 50.00

FN FAL 50.00 rifles are seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.

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FN FAL 50.00 - 7.62x51mm NATO
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Esposito (Glyn Baker) at the right fires a full auto FN FAL 50.00.

FN FAL 50.61

FN FAL 50.61 rifles are seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.

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FN FAL 50.61 paratrooper rifle - 7.62x51mm
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A Cuban military advisor fires an FN FAL.
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A Simba fighter holds an FN FAL.

Sporter Mauser Rifle

A hunter (Peter Kybart) in the Bavarian forest carries what appears to be a scoped Mauser Sporter.

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Oberndorf Mauser Sporter - 9x57mm
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The hunter appears from the thicket.
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A close view of the double set trigger.

Other

Mk II Hand Grenade

Several Mk II Hand Grenades are seen among the weapons, provided by Alex Faulkner. A grenade is used by Haddad (Scott Glenn) to break the door of Stroebling's hideout. A Mk II grenade is also seen in footage from original The Wild Geese.

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Mk 2 "Pineapple" World War II-made High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade
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A mercenary at the right readies to throw a grenade in footage from The Wild Geese.
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Three Mk II grenades are seen together with an Uzi and Faulkner's sniper rifle. They are painted in black with yellow band that supposedly indicates some non-live version.
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Haddad uses a grenade to break the door.