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== Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? == | == Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? == | ||
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This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST) | This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST) | ||
:As it seems to me, this rifle is similar to a Hungarian [http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT898hLI6FmzA6syZigpAToyX01bWS38tPqM1ndI4NUXTJ9pAUXJzE7yn0y Mannlicher 33M]. 33M has a Mauser bolt and Mannlicher magazine. But the shape of the stock is different; and the main problem with 33M is the fact that this rifle wasn't put into service and remained prototype, so it was produced in very limited numbers. | |||
: Also there were Yugoslavian hybrids of Mauser and Mannlicher systems (M95M - Ausrtian Mannlichers M95 converted for 7.92 Mauser cartridge and shortened; and some other versions), but I couldn't find an image to compage. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:06, 18 January 2013 (EST) | |||
Hi Greg! You're here in the nick of time! Greg, you know what it carries a soviet partisan for revolver in his hand? It has to be Russian gun. Thx.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 07:29, 18 January 2013 (EST) | |||
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:I'm glad to help, but this question is too complex... If I understand correctly, this item looks like a revolver with side-placed ejector rod. There were no such weapon in USSR, but a [[Rast-Gasser M1898]] revolver with side-placed rod can be used in Czech movie. But I can be wrong, and this is something else. In any case, this item doesn't resemble TT pistol or Nagant revolver. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 08:43, 18 January 2013 (EST) Yeah, it might be! He is, I think the partisans Czech - this is a mixed brigades, were the Russians and also ours. Thx --[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 08:56, 18 January 2013 (EST) | |||
Latest revision as of 06:07, 25 June 2015
Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser?
This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--Stomper (talk) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--Pandolfini (talk) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)
- As it seems to me, this rifle is similar to a Hungarian Mannlicher 33M. 33M has a Mauser bolt and Mannlicher magazine. But the shape of the stock is different; and the main problem with 33M is the fact that this rifle wasn't put into service and remained prototype, so it was produced in very limited numbers.
- Also there were Yugoslavian hybrids of Mauser and Mannlicher systems (M95M - Ausrtian Mannlichers M95 converted for 7.92 Mauser cartridge and shortened; and some other versions), but I couldn't find an image to compage. Greg-Z (talk) 02:06, 18 January 2013 (EST)
Hi Greg! You're here in the nick of time! Greg, you know what it carries a soviet partisan for revolver in his hand? It has to be Russian gun. Thx.--Pandolfini (talk) 07:29, 18 January 2013 (EST)
- I'm glad to help, but this question is too complex... If I understand correctly, this item looks like a revolver with side-placed ejector rod. There were no such weapon in USSR, but a Rast-Gasser M1898 revolver with side-placed rod can be used in Czech movie. But I can be wrong, and this is something else. In any case, this item doesn't resemble TT pistol or Nagant revolver. Greg-Z (talk) 08:43, 18 January 2013 (EST) Yeah, it might be! He is, I think the partisans Czech - this is a mixed brigades, were the Russians and also ours. Thx --Pandolfini (talk) 08:56, 18 January 2013 (EST)