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== Steyr Mannlicher M1895? ==
== Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser? ==


[[Image:SteyrM95Short.jpg|thumb|400px|none|Steyr M1895 Short Rifle (M1930 Conversion) - 8x56R]]
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This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx vey much!--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)
This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--[[User:Stomper|Stomper]] ([[User talk:Stomper|talk]]) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)
:As it seems to me, this rifle is similar to a Hungarian [http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT898hLI6FmzA6syZigpAToyX01bWS38tPqM1ndI4NUXTJ9pAUXJzE7yn0y Mannlicher 33M]. 33M has a Mauser bolt and Mannlicher magazine. But the shape of the stock is different; and the main problem with 33M is the fact that this rifle wasn't put into service and remained prototype, so it was produced in very limited numbers.
: Also there were Yugoslavian hybrids of Mauser and Mannlicher systems (M95M - Ausrtian Mannlichers M95 converted for 7.92 Mauser cartridge and shortened; and some other versions), but I couldn't find an image to compage. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:06, 18 January 2013 (EST)
 
Hi Greg! You're here in the nick of time! Greg, you know what it carries a soviet partisan for  revolver in his hand? It has to be Russian gun. Thx.--[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 07:29, 18 January 2013 (EST)
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:I'm glad to help, but this question is too complex... If I understand correctly, this item looks like a revolver with side-placed ejector rod. There were no such weapon in USSR, but a [[Rast-Gasser M1898]] revolver with side-placed rod can be used in Czech movie. But I can be wrong, and this is something else. In any case, this item doesn't resemble TT pistol or Nagant revolver. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 08:43, 18 January 2013 (EST) Yeah, it might be! He is, I think the partisans Czech - this is a mixed brigades, were the Russians and also ours. Thx --[[User:Pandolfini|Pandolfini]] ([[User talk:Pandolfini|talk]]) 08:56, 18 January 2013 (EST)

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Steyr Mannlicher M1895 or Mauser?

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This appears to be a Vz.33 (based on the receiver and bolt shape) with a Mannlicher M1895 magazine & triggerguard. Very bizzare.--Stomper (talk) 18:42, 5 January 2013 (EST) Thx very much!--Pandolfini (talk) 01:21, 18 January 2013 (EST)

As it seems to me, this rifle is similar to a Hungarian Mannlicher 33M. 33M has a Mauser bolt and Mannlicher magazine. But the shape of the stock is different; and the main problem with 33M is the fact that this rifle wasn't put into service and remained prototype, so it was produced in very limited numbers.
Also there were Yugoslavian hybrids of Mauser and Mannlicher systems (M95M - Ausrtian Mannlichers M95 converted for 7.92 Mauser cartridge and shortened; and some other versions), but I couldn't find an image to compage. Greg-Z (talk) 02:06, 18 January 2013 (EST)

Hi Greg! You're here in the nick of time! Greg, you know what it carries a soviet partisan for revolver in his hand? It has to be Russian gun. Thx.--Pandolfini (talk) 07:29, 18 January 2013 (EST)

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I'm glad to help, but this question is too complex... If I understand correctly, this item looks like a revolver with side-placed ejector rod. There were no such weapon in USSR, but a Rast-Gasser M1898 revolver with side-placed rod can be used in Czech movie. But I can be wrong, and this is something else. In any case, this item doesn't resemble TT pistol or Nagant revolver. Greg-Z (talk) 08:43, 18 January 2013 (EST) Yeah, it might be! He is, I think the partisans Czech - this is a mixed brigades, were the Russians and also ours. Thx --Pandolfini (talk) 08:56, 18 January 2013 (EST)