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Thus, I am sorry to say that I think it would be best if we take the images down for now. Of course, I will not do without democratic consent from my fellow admins. What is your opinion? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC) | Thus, I am sorry to say that I think it would be best if we take the images down for now. Of course, I will not do without democratic consent from my fellow admins. What is your opinion? -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 23:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Then we might as we get rid of the images for Pineapple Express. Cause that's full of photos I took from a bootleg download. And then what about my Unit page? A lot of the recent pics are from episode's I downloaded from mininova. Does it count since it's a TV show? Cause I got a lot of photos that I painstakingly took watching every episode again | |||
:::I explained to you since I made that post that I don't care about ones that exist already. Also, no I'm not so concerned about "The Unit", because Unit episodes are available any time from iTunes. My issue with Pineapple Express is that it's ''obvious'' that it had to have come from a bootleg because the movie isn't out on DVD yet, whereas The Unit is available on iTunes and DVD. That's all I'm saying. Don't post screenshots of movies that ''haven't been released on DVD yet''. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 06:03, 21 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::And I won't from now on. -[[User:Excalibur01|Ex]] | |||
:::::The images from the UNIT or any television show is not an issue. It's been released already via television. What's to keep someone from DVRing the show and screen capping from that? It's obviously NOT a bootleg if it's been on TV. But bootlegs from theatrical release films should be avoided. I only screencap upcoming movies from trailers or clips that have already been released to the general public. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 05:29, 23 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
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== | ==How's it look== | ||
Did it come out alright? I need help with that CAR-15, but other than that, it looks pretty good. -GM | |||
==The military advisor was probably in on it.== | |||
Given the nature of this movie, I'd fully expect that not only was the military advisor in on it, he may have actively encouraged it. | |||
"What's that? You want safe ways to look like a jackass while firing a gun? Hmm...give me about fifteen minutes. And a couple of beers." --[[User:Clutch|Clutch]] 21:37, 24 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
: I understand that the advisor for the actual film was probably letting them kid around, but in the film within the film, they could have seriously used an advisor. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] 01:55, 3 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Taken from the main page. == | |||
:It is? Isn't that just the name of a custom airsoft gun? The M4 variant with the 11.5 inch barrel is called the "M4 Commando" on Colt's LEO web site, but those have the receivers with detachable carry handles; these guns have A2 receivers. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:03, 17 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Okay, you have me with the A2 receivers, but the CQBR is real. | |||
:::Yeah, you're right, it's a replacement upper receiver, and apparently one that the DoD has already adopted. Surprised I didn't know it was called that. But again, I don't think the gun in the movie is that. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
==AKM== | |||
There is false information about Hanio and AKMs. The AKM(from wikipedia) was invented in 1959 and was used in the Vietnam War. | |||
:They weren't given to the NVA since at the time of the Vietnam War the AKM was a new rifle in the Soviet Arsenal. So they gave the left over AK-47s to the PAVN.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 13:23, 1 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Actually, the NVA started to receive the AKM in the late-60s, so some may have been used in the war. In the pictures of the Northern forces entering Saigon in 1975, the NVA troops were armed with AKMs. But they were definitely very rarely encountered in combat; the original milled-receiver AK-47s and Chinese Type 56s were the Kalashnikov variants used most heavily during the war. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] | |||
:Do you have pictures of PAVN troops with AKMs?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 14:52, 1 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
:: I checked the list of weapons listed and the list tells me that they used [[AKM]]s and the AKMs were from Warsaw-pact contries and the Soviets. The Viet Cong also used leftovers from World War 2 such as the [[Arisaka Rifle#Arisaka Type 99|Arisaka Type 99]], the [[M1903 Springfield]], and the [[M1 Bazooka#M1A1 Bazooka(2.36 Rocket)|M1A1 Bazooka]]. The Viet Cong just didn't use AKMs that much due to massive productions of the [[AK-47]] and the [[Norinco Type 56]]. I think the movie incorrectly shows the Viet Cong heavily using AKMs. - [[User:Crysis|Crysis]] 17:25, 12 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::I can understand the Arisakas. But where would the Victor Charlie find M1903s? I don't think we sent Springfields to the french during Indochina.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:55, 12 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
==AR-15== | |||
The AR-15 was invented in 1958 so how is it inaccurate to have one in 1969? - [[Special:Contributions/98.234.121.159|98.234.121.159]] 01:08, 25 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
*The AR-15 has 2 variants. The first one was used in the war while the second one was invented in the 1980s. - [[User:Crysis|Crysis]] 17:20, 12 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Depends what Second variant you are talking about, Crysis. If you mean the CAR-15, then the only variant used in the Vietnam War was the XM177, those were heavilly used in the war by the US. The CAR-15 in the movie is an error though. It was only released to the public in 1973.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:49, 12 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
::The CAR-15 was never released by Colt to the public in any form that looked like the XM177 (i.e. they never released a version with a 'fake' flash/sound suppressor). The CAR-15 name was a marketing ploy for COlt to try to brand the AR line with the name COLT, but it didn't really stick and the U.S. Government only utilized the official Colt names, i.e. Model 609, 653, etc. They only released the SP1 sporter carbine which was a 16" barreled carbine version of the slab sided AR15 SP1 full length rifle in 1978. CAR-15/XM177 looking guns weren't available until third party manufacturers starting making them in the late 1970s/early 1980s after. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:27, 12 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
==XM16E1== | |||
By 1969 shouldn't the US be using M16A1's? | |||
:Yes. However, the film they are making is one of those preachy war dramas. In other words, it's a shitty movie. The actors and director (Damian Cockburn) apparently know that.--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 19:49, 12 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
:You have to understand this is a movie about a movie that parodies a lot of Nam war movies. So the weapons themselves, might most likely be bad continuity would fit in with the parody theme. It's just more funny that way [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 04:51, 13 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
==The Gold Cup== | |||
:Are y'all sure? Because in the lower screenshot it shows a .45 with vertical slide serrations, and to my knowledge The GCNM has never come with vertical slide serrations, only slanted.[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] 03:35, 21 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Taybacks revolver == | |||
Its briefly seen when he is up on the ridge looking down at the actors. Anyone have an ID? Looks like a Smith and Wesson.--[[User:FIVETWOSEVEN|FIVETWOSEVEN]] 00:02, 7 December 2010 (UTC) | |||
Haha I was about to make a post about this. I agree with the Smith and Wesson ID, you see it again briefly when he goes down into the valley to look at Cockburn's remains. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like it has a wood grips with a medallion inlay. -- K [[Special:Contributions/98.118.59.151|98.118.59.151]] 00:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC) | |||
== ACOG == | |||
Was recently re-watching it and when they are watching the camp as Speedman is getting dunked in the water pit, Lazarus is seen watching it trough an ACOG sight, this is prior to them assaulting the camp and as they are in Vietnam era getup he shouldn't have the sight Sandusky uses what seems to be somewhat correct era bino's but Lazarus has an ACOG, its hanged on a cord around his neck. Just found it weird --[[User:Iceman|Iceman]] ([[User talk:Iceman|talk]]) 16:41, 2 March 2015 (EST) | |||
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Concern about images
I am a bit concerned here.
On the one hand, it's great that we have screenshots of guns from the movie. On the other, they're obviously from a bootleg of the movie (since "Tropic Thunder" has yet to be released on DVD or Blu Ray). I am worried that if some studio Politburo member happens to be looking for bootleggers to harass, they might come by this site and see our images. And we might get in trouble.
Thus, I am sorry to say that I think it would be best if we take the images down for now. Of course, I will not do without democratic consent from my fellow admins. What is your opinion? -MT2008 23:44, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
- Then we might as we get rid of the images for Pineapple Express. Cause that's full of photos I took from a bootleg download. And then what about my Unit page? A lot of the recent pics are from episode's I downloaded from mininova. Does it count since it's a TV show? Cause I got a lot of photos that I painstakingly took watching every episode again
- I explained to you since I made that post that I don't care about ones that exist already. Also, no I'm not so concerned about "The Unit", because Unit episodes are available any time from iTunes. My issue with Pineapple Express is that it's obvious that it had to have come from a bootleg because the movie isn't out on DVD yet, whereas The Unit is available on iTunes and DVD. That's all I'm saying. Don't post screenshots of movies that haven't been released on DVD yet. -MT2008 06:03, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
- And I won't from now on. -Ex
- The images from the UNIT or any television show is not an issue. It's been released already via television. What's to keep someone from DVRing the show and screen capping from that? It's obviously NOT a bootleg if it's been on TV. But bootlegs from theatrical release films should be avoided. I only screencap upcoming movies from trailers or clips that have already been released to the general public. MoviePropMaster2008 05:29, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
DVD
I just bought this on DVD and if its okay can I screencap it on wednesday? -GM
How's it look
Did it come out alright? I need help with that CAR-15, but other than that, it looks pretty good. -GM
The military advisor was probably in on it.
Given the nature of this movie, I'd fully expect that not only was the military advisor in on it, he may have actively encouraged it.
"What's that? You want safe ways to look like a jackass while firing a gun? Hmm...give me about fifteen minutes. And a couple of beers." --Clutch 21:37, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- I understand that the advisor for the actual film was probably letting them kid around, but in the film within the film, they could have seriously used an advisor. - Gunmaster45 01:55, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Taken from the main page.
- It is? Isn't that just the name of a custom airsoft gun? The M4 variant with the 11.5 inch barrel is called the "M4 Commando" on Colt's LEO web site, but those have the receivers with detachable carry handles; these guns have A2 receivers. -MT2008 03:03, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
- Okay, you have me with the A2 receivers, but the CQBR is real.
- Yeah, you're right, it's a replacement upper receiver, and apparently one that the DoD has already adopted. Surprised I didn't know it was called that. But again, I don't think the gun in the movie is that. -MT2008 03:44, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
AKM
There is false information about Hanio and AKMs. The AKM(from wikipedia) was invented in 1959 and was used in the Vietnam War.
- They weren't given to the NVA since at the time of the Vietnam War the AKM was a new rifle in the Soviet Arsenal. So they gave the left over AK-47s to the PAVN.-Oliveira 13:23, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, the NVA started to receive the AKM in the late-60s, so some may have been used in the war. In the pictures of the Northern forces entering Saigon in 1975, the NVA troops were armed with AKMs. But they were definitely very rarely encountered in combat; the original milled-receiver AK-47s and Chinese Type 56s were the Kalashnikov variants used most heavily during the war. -MT2008
- Do you have pictures of PAVN troops with AKMs?-Oliveira 14:52, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- I checked the list of weapons listed and the list tells me that they used AKMs and the AKMs were from Warsaw-pact contries and the Soviets. The Viet Cong also used leftovers from World War 2 such as the Arisaka Type 99, the M1903 Springfield, and the M1A1 Bazooka. The Viet Cong just didn't use AKMs that much due to massive productions of the AK-47 and the Norinco Type 56. I think the movie incorrectly shows the Viet Cong heavily using AKMs. - Crysis 17:25, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
- I can understand the Arisakas. But where would the Victor Charlie find M1903s? I don't think we sent Springfields to the french during Indochina.--Oliveira 19:55, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
- I checked the list of weapons listed and the list tells me that they used AKMs and the AKMs were from Warsaw-pact contries and the Soviets. The Viet Cong also used leftovers from World War 2 such as the Arisaka Type 99, the M1903 Springfield, and the M1A1 Bazooka. The Viet Cong just didn't use AKMs that much due to massive productions of the AK-47 and the Norinco Type 56. I think the movie incorrectly shows the Viet Cong heavily using AKMs. - Crysis 17:25, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
AR-15
The AR-15 was invented in 1958 so how is it inaccurate to have one in 1969? - 98.234.121.159 01:08, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- The AR-15 has 2 variants. The first one was used in the war while the second one was invented in the 1980s. - Crysis 17:20, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
- Depends what Second variant you are talking about, Crysis. If you mean the CAR-15, then the only variant used in the Vietnam War was the XM177, those were heavilly used in the war by the US. The CAR-15 in the movie is an error though. It was only released to the public in 1973.-Oliveira 19:49, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
- The CAR-15 was never released by Colt to the public in any form that looked like the XM177 (i.e. they never released a version with a 'fake' flash/sound suppressor). The CAR-15 name was a marketing ploy for COlt to try to brand the AR line with the name COLT, but it didn't really stick and the U.S. Government only utilized the official Colt names, i.e. Model 609, 653, etc. They only released the SP1 sporter carbine which was a 16" barreled carbine version of the slab sided AR15 SP1 full length rifle in 1978. CAR-15/XM177 looking guns weren't available until third party manufacturers starting making them in the late 1970s/early 1980s after. MoviePropMaster2008 20:27, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
XM16E1
By 1969 shouldn't the US be using M16A1's?
- Yes. However, the film they are making is one of those preachy war dramas. In other words, it's a shitty movie. The actors and director (Damian Cockburn) apparently know that.--Oliveira 19:49, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
- You have to understand this is a movie about a movie that parodies a lot of Nam war movies. So the weapons themselves, might most likely be bad continuity would fit in with the parody theme. It's just more funny that way Excalibur01 04:51, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
The Gold Cup
- Are y'all sure? Because in the lower screenshot it shows a .45 with vertical slide serrations, and to my knowledge The GCNM has never come with vertical slide serrations, only slanted.RedJedRevolver 03:35, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Taybacks revolver
Its briefly seen when he is up on the ridge looking down at the actors. Anyone have an ID? Looks like a Smith and Wesson.--FIVETWOSEVEN 00:02, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Haha I was about to make a post about this. I agree with the Smith and Wesson ID, you see it again briefly when he goes down into the valley to look at Cockburn's remains. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like it has a wood grips with a medallion inlay. -- K 98.118.59.151 00:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
ACOG
Was recently re-watching it and when they are watching the camp as Speedman is getting dunked in the water pit, Lazarus is seen watching it trough an ACOG sight, this is prior to them assaulting the camp and as they are in Vietnam era getup he shouldn't have the sight Sandusky uses what seems to be somewhat correct era bino's but Lazarus has an ACOG, its hanged on a cord around his neck. Just found it weird --Iceman (talk) 16:41, 2 March 2015 (EST)