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Sure it's most likely a modern firing replica, but why note it as such in the title? Replica implies a NON firing weapon when put in the gun's title. And since there is no proof that it is NOT a mint condition Henry rifle (implausible as that may be) it should be listed as a Henry Rifle since that's what it is.. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:24, 10 June 2009 (UTC) | Sure it's most likely a modern firing replica, but why note it as such in the title? Replica implies a NON firing weapon when put in the gun's title. And since there is no proof that it is NOT a mint condition Henry rifle (implausible as that may be) it should be listed as a Henry Rifle since that's what it is.. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 07:24, 10 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Plus, Henry still makes rifles-S&Wshooter | :Plus, Henry still makes rifles-S&Wshooter | ||
::What would the Henry be chambered in? I doubt it would be the .44 rimfire cartridge the original came in because I'm pretty sure that hasn't been commercially available for decades. Would it be something like .45 Colt or .44special or something? | |||
It's an italian reproduction of the Henry 1860, chambered for the .45 Colt. A close viewing of the movie shows Barbara loading the gun, with the rounds being too big and too pristine to be .44 rimfire, and the yellow Winchester Super X box is plainly visible in the background. [[User:Ballistics_Expert2|Ballistics_Expert2]] | |||
==The Double Barrel Shotgun== | ==The Double Barrel Shotgun== | ||
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-Okay, that's fine, but I'm not sold that it is a Stevens, it appears to have two pins in the proper place for a Stevens, but that foregrip and the side of the gun itself is bugging me. On the Stevens there are grooves in front the grip on either side of the frame, but as you can see in picture 3, but even more clear in picture 6. The frame and grip lead me to believe it is a Stoeger or similar manufacture shotgun, can anyone confirm?[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] | -Okay, that's fine, but I'm not sold that it is a Stevens, it appears to have two pins in the proper place for a Stevens, but that foregrip and the side of the gun itself is bugging me. On the Stevens there are grooves in front the grip on either side of the frame, but as you can see in picture 3, but even more clear in picture 6. The frame and grip lead me to believe it is a Stoeger or similar manufacture shotgun, can anyone confirm?[[User:RedJedRevolver|RedJedRevolver]] | ||
(UTC) | (UTC) | ||
It's a Stevens series H with what looks to be an A forearm. Good gun but common. The Stoegers have the stock inletted into the frame on the back side of the receiver. The Stevens is straight. (Krispic) | |||
The gun is a Stevens 311 Series H. It looks nothing like a Stoeger Uplander with that receiver inletting for the stock. The Uplander didn't even exist when that movie was in production. The Stevens 311 is far and away the most common double in any movie you see one in. That one in the movie has obvious Stevens pins, the Uplander doesn't. You don't identify a shotgun by the type of wood it happens to sport, though. That would be like trying to identify a Mossy 500 based on an ATI etc stock someone put on it. The metal is the gun and that metal is an obvious 311 Series H. | |||
This is a Stevens 311 Series H. See if anyone still thinks the above is a Stoeger? | |||
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Stevens_Series_H.jpg | |||
I'm going to let this go for a week or two and then if there's no objections, I'll change it on the page. It'll probably get changed back (lol), but it's no biggy either way. [[User:Krispic|Krispic]] ([[User talk:Krispic|talk]]) 16:47, 17 August 2014 (EDT) | |||
The comments question I posted was before I learned that editing is up to the individual, not set it stone by the site. I would mention one gun as something and the next time I visited, it would be marked something else. No biggy. It's the nature of the beast. [[User:Krispic|Krispic]] ([[User talk:Krispic|talk]]) 16:01, 17 August 2014 (EDT) | |||
For some reason, my comments seem to be being deleted. Is there a reason for that? (Krispic) | |||
::A lot of commentary that is not encyclopedia in nature is deleted from the movie page. People are being encouraged to put all discussion on the discussion pages. Also if the comments are sarcastic or pedantic, then they will be moved. This is in line with a current trend to clean up the site. There was a TON of childish crap on the site put there by, you guessed it, children. Don't know what comments you are referring to but I hope this explanation of the general trend of the site helps. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:46, 29 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
Also Krispic, at the END of your paragraphs, type in the character ~ and do it four times in a row (no page breaks). It will save you the hassle of typing in your username all the time. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 20:46, 29 December 2009 (UTC) | |||
Thanks for the Caption AdAstra. | Thanks for the Caption AdAstra. | ||
==The snubby revolver== | |||
Does anyone think that might not be a Model 10, but a J frame Mod 36? A K frame 10 is a large gun, not toy-like as that one is in Ben's hand. [[User:Krispic|Krispic]] ([[User talk:Krispic|talk]]) 16:05, 17 August 2014 (EDT) | |||
==Winchester 1300== | |||
I'm removing this image from the main page as it is almost identical to another image, I'm not deleting it however because it shows the endcap in-case someone disputes it. | |||
[[Image:NOTLD90ithaca.jpg|thumb|none|600px]] --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 00:14, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 20:47, 17 August 2014
Why call the Henry rifle a replica?
Sure it's most likely a modern firing replica, but why note it as such in the title? Replica implies a NON firing weapon when put in the gun's title. And since there is no proof that it is NOT a mint condition Henry rifle (implausible as that may be) it should be listed as a Henry Rifle since that's what it is.. MoviePropMaster2008 07:24, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- Plus, Henry still makes rifles-S&Wshooter
- What would the Henry be chambered in? I doubt it would be the .44 rimfire cartridge the original came in because I'm pretty sure that hasn't been commercially available for decades. Would it be something like .45 Colt or .44special or something?
It's an italian reproduction of the Henry 1860, chambered for the .45 Colt. A close viewing of the movie shows Barbara loading the gun, with the rounds being too big and too pristine to be .44 rimfire, and the yellow Winchester Super X box is plainly visible in the background. Ballistics_Expert2
The Double Barrel Shotgun
- Not so sure it's a Stevens, that forearm looks awful more like a Stoeger, can you get some better screencaps of the side? User:RedJedRevolver
- Those are all the best shots I have of it --AdAstra2009 22:26, 12 June 2009
-Okay, that's fine, but I'm not sold that it is a Stevens, it appears to have two pins in the proper place for a Stevens, but that foregrip and the side of the gun itself is bugging me. On the Stevens there are grooves in front the grip on either side of the frame, but as you can see in picture 3, but even more clear in picture 6. The frame and grip lead me to believe it is a Stoeger or similar manufacture shotgun, can anyone confirm?RedJedRevolver (UTC)
It's a Stevens series H with what looks to be an A forearm. Good gun but common. The Stoegers have the stock inletted into the frame on the back side of the receiver. The Stevens is straight. (Krispic)
The gun is a Stevens 311 Series H. It looks nothing like a Stoeger Uplander with that receiver inletting for the stock. The Uplander didn't even exist when that movie was in production. The Stevens 311 is far and away the most common double in any movie you see one in. That one in the movie has obvious Stevens pins, the Uplander doesn't. You don't identify a shotgun by the type of wood it happens to sport, though. That would be like trying to identify a Mossy 500 based on an ATI etc stock someone put on it. The metal is the gun and that metal is an obvious 311 Series H.
This is a Stevens 311 Series H. See if anyone still thinks the above is a Stoeger?
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Stevens_Series_H.jpg
I'm going to let this go for a week or two and then if there's no objections, I'll change it on the page. It'll probably get changed back (lol), but it's no biggy either way. Krispic (talk) 16:47, 17 August 2014 (EDT)
The comments question I posted was before I learned that editing is up to the individual, not set it stone by the site. I would mention one gun as something and the next time I visited, it would be marked something else. No biggy. It's the nature of the beast. Krispic (talk) 16:01, 17 August 2014 (EDT)
For some reason, my comments seem to be being deleted. Is there a reason for that? (Krispic)
- A lot of commentary that is not encyclopedia in nature is deleted from the movie page. People are being encouraged to put all discussion on the discussion pages. Also if the comments are sarcastic or pedantic, then they will be moved. This is in line with a current trend to clean up the site. There was a TON of childish crap on the site put there by, you guessed it, children. Don't know what comments you are referring to but I hope this explanation of the general trend of the site helps. MoviePropMaster2008 20:46, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Also Krispic, at the END of your paragraphs, type in the character ~ and do it four times in a row (no page breaks). It will save you the hassle of typing in your username all the time. MoviePropMaster2008 20:46, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the Caption AdAstra.
The snubby revolver
Does anyone think that might not be a Model 10, but a J frame Mod 36? A K frame 10 is a large gun, not toy-like as that one is in Ben's hand. Krispic (talk) 16:05, 17 August 2014 (EDT)
Winchester 1300
I'm removing this image from the main page as it is almost identical to another image, I'm not deleting it however because it shows the endcap in-case someone disputes it.
--AdAstra2009 00:14, 17 September 2009 (UTC)