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=Unknowns= | |||
==Winchester Model 1200?== | |||
Baltimore PD uniforms use what appear to be [[Winchester Model 1200]] shotguns. | |||
[[Image:Winchester1200Police.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1200 Police Model - 12 Gauge. The precursor to the Model 1300 however it is an all metal shotgun with a deep blued finish. It was developed in 1964 and ended production when the U.S. Repeating Arms Company acquired Winchester from Olin in 1980. The 1200 eventually ceased all production in 1981 and ceded the pump shotgun like to the Model 1300.]] | |||
[[Image:HLOTS_shotgun_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Every Mother's Son" (S03E09)]] | |||
[[Image:HLOTS_shotgun_02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Every Mother's Son" (S03E09)]] | |||
[[Image:HLOTS_shotgun_03.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Every Mother's Son" (S03E09)]] | |||
[[Image:HLOTS_shotgun_04.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Every Mother's Son" (S03E09)]] | |||
The trigger guard, safety, and receiver point to Winchester 1200, but the tube cap is pointing to a Mossberg 500. Thoughts? --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:31, 4 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
: Maybe Winchester 1200 Defender? Tube cap is similar to the screened one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Winchester1200Def-1.jpg. [[User:GMS|GMS]] 10:34, 5 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
::[http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/4007130740/8307600/fb479158c4ccb8b09dedc7d2f9dcef86.jpg High Standard K-120?] --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 11:20, 5 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
::: Maybe yes. But IMHO - 1200 Defender look more alike. [[User:GMS|GMS]] 12:25, 5 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
::::The thing that bothers me is the gap between the tube cap and the forward grip. There isn't one on the Winchester 1200 Defender. And I've been googling images for hours, and I haven't seen a grip that looks like the one above. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 15:38, 5 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
:::::I made the call, [[Smith & Wesson 916]]. If anyone disagrees, feel free to change it. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 19:58, 8 May 2012 (CDT) | |||
::::::I looked again, and I changed my mind. Back to square one. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 08:11, 9 May 2012 (CDT) | |||
==Handgun== | |||
Pembleton and Lewis are running down a list of registered owners of .40 Smith & Wessons, and come across an owner who confesses to using her S&W in an unrelated murder. How many .40 caliber Smith & Wesson automatics were there in 1994/1995? Going by the naming convention, it should be the 4005, but I did a search in google, and there does not appear to be such a thing. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:23, 9 April 2012 (CDT) | |||
[[Image:HLOTS_SW40_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Law and Disorder" (S03E15)]] | |||
[[Image:HLOTS_SW40_02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Law and Disorder" (S03E15)]] | |||
[[Image:HLOTS_SW40_03.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"Law and Disorder" (S03E15)]] | |||
=Discussion= | |||
I'd like to point out that Frank Pembleton uses a Sig P220 or P225 in the first season. | I'd like to point out that Frank Pembleton uses a Sig P220 or P225 in the first season. | ||
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[[Image:DayMP5K.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Daisy Airsoft Model 14 MP-5K. One of the first ASG.]] | [[Image:DayMP5K.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Daisy Airsoft Model 14 MP-5K. One of the first ASG.]] | ||
== Pre-emptive apology == | |||
I'm starting to get caps for this show, and I don't know if it's the DVD codec I have or because the show is from the early nineties, but some of these early caps won't look as good as DVD caps should. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 17:53, 25 August 2011 (CDT) | |||
:Just discovered the frame by frame button on VLC. Maybe that will help. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 16:30, 22 September 2011 (CDT) | |||
== Compact Beretta? == | |||
From the shot below, it looks like Bayliss might be using a 92FS Compact. Any thoughts? Were they around back in the early nineties? | |||
It could be a Centurion. They were new around that time. The frame and the barrel look about right. On my initial viewing, I never got a clear view of the barrel to properly ID it. - [[User:500Magnum|500Magnum]] | |||
[[Image:HLOTS_B92_01.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bayliss has his Beretta 92FS drawn as he and uniforms clear a house in "Son of a Gun." (S1E03)]] | |||
==Little things== | |||
[[Image:HLOTS_shoot_01.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pembleton dislikes using guns, and uses a very antiquated method of pistol shooting. Pembleton consistently has used this method throughout the series.]] | |||
[[Image:HLOTS_shoot_02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bayliss, understandably, is a much better shot, using a more modern method.]] | |||
=="Cooper Arms Derringer"== | |||
A "Cooper Arms Derringer" chambered in ".38 Short" is identified as the murder weapon in the episode "Justice: Part 2". It is never actually seen onscreen. | |||
[[Image:Remington1866Derringer4.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Remington 1866 Derringer - .41 R.F. caliber]] | |||
=Spare screencaps= | |||
[[Image:HLOTS_Python_02.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Bayliss and a uniform hold a suspect at bay in "Son of a Gun." (S1E03)]] | |||
[[Image:HLOTS_G19_03.jpg|thumb|none|500px|For his role as Robert Ellison, Robin Williams was nominated for a Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Guest Actor – Drama Series.]] | |||
[[Image:HLOTS_G19_04.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Detective Felton ([[Daniel Baldwin]]) untangling his shoulder holster. From the grips, it appears that they are Gen 1 Glock 19s.]] | |||
[[Image:HLOTS_G17_03.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Felton loads up his Glock 17 as he gets ready to go off shift.]] | |||
[[Image:HLOTS_M1911_03.jpg|thumb|none|500px|In a continuity error, the same M1911-type pistol is once again on the ground a few seconds later.]] | |||
[[Category: Unidentified]] | |||
Latest revision as of 23:15, 11 May 2012
Unknowns
Winchester Model 1200?
Baltimore PD uniforms use what appear to be Winchester Model 1200 shotguns.
The trigger guard, safety, and receiver point to Winchester 1200, but the tube cap is pointing to a Mossberg 500. Thoughts? --Funkychinaman 16:31, 4 April 2012 (CDT)
- Maybe Winchester 1200 Defender? Tube cap is similar to the screened one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Winchester1200Def-1.jpg. GMS 10:34, 5 April 2012 (CDT)
- High Standard K-120? --Funkychinaman 11:20, 5 April 2012 (CDT)
- Maybe yes. But IMHO - 1200 Defender look more alike. GMS 12:25, 5 April 2012 (CDT)
- The thing that bothers me is the gap between the tube cap and the forward grip. There isn't one on the Winchester 1200 Defender. And I've been googling images for hours, and I haven't seen a grip that looks like the one above. --Funkychinaman 15:38, 5 April 2012 (CDT)
- I made the call, Smith & Wesson 916. If anyone disagrees, feel free to change it. --Funkychinaman 19:58, 8 May 2012 (CDT)
- I looked again, and I changed my mind. Back to square one. --Funkychinaman 08:11, 9 May 2012 (CDT)
- I made the call, Smith & Wesson 916. If anyone disagrees, feel free to change it. --Funkychinaman 19:58, 8 May 2012 (CDT)
- The thing that bothers me is the gap between the tube cap and the forward grip. There isn't one on the Winchester 1200 Defender. And I've been googling images for hours, and I haven't seen a grip that looks like the one above. --Funkychinaman 15:38, 5 April 2012 (CDT)
- Maybe yes. But IMHO - 1200 Defender look more alike. GMS 12:25, 5 April 2012 (CDT)
- High Standard K-120? --Funkychinaman 11:20, 5 April 2012 (CDT)
Handgun
Pembleton and Lewis are running down a list of registered owners of .40 Smith & Wessons, and come across an owner who confesses to using her S&W in an unrelated murder. How many .40 caliber Smith & Wesson automatics were there in 1994/1995? Going by the naming convention, it should be the 4005, but I did a search in google, and there does not appear to be such a thing. --Funkychinaman 16:23, 9 April 2012 (CDT)
Discussion
I'd like to point out that Frank Pembleton uses a Sig P220 or P225 in the first season.
- Actually, he used a P226. -MT2008 21:49, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Really? In the episode where him and Alec Baldwin's character go to the junk yards, it looked like it was a single stack Sig. I know that he uses a Glock full size in everything season 2 on.
- It's actually Daniel Baldwin. Alec always talks about how people mix the two of them up, and tell him how they loved the show and how fat he looked on it. --funkychinaman 12:51, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
I've seen every episode, and I have the first three seasons on DVD, so I can cap it eventually, but off the top of my head, an M1911 was used in the episode where Robin Williams guest stars as a man who's wife is shot in a mugging. He noted how big the bore looked. (And he was really good in that episode too.) --funkychinaman 12:51, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
- Daniel Baldwin's character Beau Felton returns for one episode after Baldwin left the show. His body is found in a house, staged to look like he shot himself in the head with a pistol gripped, pump action shotgun. In reality, he was working undercover, got made, and executed with a bullet to the head, and shot in the head with the shotgun to disguise the bullet wound. --funkychinaman 13:58, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, that episode (Bop Gun, I think it's called) was AMAZING. Not only was Robin Williams fantastic in it, but I feel it's one of Melissa Leo's best performances in the series. And I loved how it emphasized the humanity (or inhumanity) of Daniel (not Alec, but they look the same in the 90's!) Baldwin. Yeah, that was definitely a 1911, but I'd guess it was one of those new fangled 1991s or something, cause it was a weird looking 1911. God, that was a good episode, I don't think I'll EVER forget it. 98.228.89.248
MP5Ks
I just popped in an episode last night, and the QRT team was prominently involved. It looked like the MP5Ks that they had were fake. The barrels looked way too long to be real MP5Ks. There wasn't any firing involved, so they could be just airsofts or waterguns. I'll try to take screen shots. --funkychinaman 13:55, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I think they used Daisy Airsoft MP5Ks in that episode. Like the ones in The Silence of the Lambs. But in the Season 5 two-part episode "Hostage", which has a lot of QRT, they did use genuine MP5Ks. --500Magnum
Pre-emptive apology
I'm starting to get caps for this show, and I don't know if it's the DVD codec I have or because the show is from the early nineties, but some of these early caps won't look as good as DVD caps should. --Funkychinaman 17:53, 25 August 2011 (CDT)
- Just discovered the frame by frame button on VLC. Maybe that will help. --Funkychinaman 16:30, 22 September 2011 (CDT)
Compact Beretta?
From the shot below, it looks like Bayliss might be using a 92FS Compact. Any thoughts? Were they around back in the early nineties?
It could be a Centurion. They were new around that time. The frame and the barrel look about right. On my initial viewing, I never got a clear view of the barrel to properly ID it. - 500Magnum
Little things
"Cooper Arms Derringer"
A "Cooper Arms Derringer" chambered in ".38 Short" is identified as the murder weapon in the episode "Justice: Part 2". It is never actually seen onscreen.
